How is The Coronavirus affecting your life?

nivek

nivek

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michael59 said:
You're an odd sort to me, Nivek. Open minded in almost every way. Some would say too many ways and yet control of the masses is not something you buy into?
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You misunderstand me, I dont think mask wearing is being used in a way to control the masses, there's other ways controlling the masses is being implemented, just not with masks, IMO...

michael59 said:
I don't want to see naked shoppers either. lol I also don't think men should be allowed to go shirtless in public either.
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I agree with you there, men should wear shirts in public too...

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michael59

michael59

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nivek said:
You misunderstand me, I dont think mask wearing is being used in a way to control the masses, there's other ways controlling the masses is being implemented, just not with masks, IMO...



I agree with you there, men should wear shirts in public too...

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Okay. :)

That used to be my argument, if women can't then men shouldn't be able to.

Did you know that in Ontario, Canada women are legally allowed to go topless? Just because we can does not mean we are stupid enough to do it :D

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitc...ey-don-t-want-to-fearing-harassment-1.3171257
 
AD1184

AD1184

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I started working in the office again at the end of last week. We do not have to wear masks while at our desks, but we are expected to when moving around the building, in the restrooms, and in the cafeteria. We have a maximum of half capacity allowed in the building. We are not allowed to sit adjacent to one another, or directly opposite each other, and there is no hot-desking. If you turn up to work on the same day as another colleague you sit next to or opposite, one of you has to go home. I needn't worry because nobody else in my team is interested in coming into the office to work. Somewhat ironically, the office was remodelled last summer from spacious seating at least six feet apart from one another, to being elbow-to-elbow in opposing rows of desks to 'aid collaboration' (and the spread of pandemic diseases).

Occasionally I see someone I know, but there is hardly anyone working there these days. The cafeteria serves a reduced menu and the food is handed to us in foam boxes with disposable cutlery. I don't know if the office will ever be the same again, even if the Covid measures are ever relaxed, because it seems that most now prefer to work from home. I can't stand to work from home any more, and have been struggling to adapt to it since I started in March.
 
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nivek

nivek

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AD1184 said:
I started working in the office again at the end of last week. We do not have to wear masks while at our desks, but we are expected to when moving around the building, in the restrooms, and in the cafeteria. We have a maximum of half capacity allowed in the building. We are not allowed to sit adjacent to one another, or directly opposite each other, and there is no hot-desking. If you turn up to work on the same day as another colleague you sit next to or opposite, one of you has to go home. I needn't worry because nobody else in my team is interested in coming into the office to work. Somewhat ironically, the office was remodelled last summer from spacious seating at least six feet apart from one another, to being elbow-to-elbow in opposing rows of desks to 'aid collaboration' (and the spread of pandemic diseases).

Occasionally I see someone I know, but there is hardly anyone working there these days. The cafeteria serves a reduced menu and the food is handed to us in foam boxes with disposable cutlery. I don't know if the office will ever be the same again, even if the Covid measures are ever relaxed, because it seems that most now prefer to work from home. I can't stand to work from home any more, and have been struggling to adapt to it since I started in March.
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Have they reduced any salaries?...I have heard of some businesses reducing the salaries of people who work from home since they are no longer traveling to and from work...

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nivek said:
Have they reduced any salaries?...I have heard of some businesses reducing the salaries of people who work from home since they are no longer traveling to and from work...

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I haven't heard of that happening to anyone. I don't think the company has yet decided that the working from home is permanent. I am a contractor anyway, so I get paid an hourly rate. My team has actually expanded under lockdown, rather than contracted, but the work that we do is designed to save outsourcing costs.
 
nivek

nivek

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So now I have to change the veterinarian I've had for 8 years because of covid (thanks again and fu China)...I haven't taken my dog to his Vet at all this year, he didn't need to see the doctor until recently and called them this morning to set an appointment for some scratching he's been doing lately on his back...He's had this issue before and they gave him some Apoquel and antibiotics after an examination and that did the trick, however they said they need to reexamine him before they can prescribe those drugs again, okay no problem but there is a problem...

Their lobby is closed due to covid and they will not allow me to accompany my dog into the examination room as I have done for the past 8 years...That's the problem...My dog will not allow them or any other stranger handle him without me being present, he will bite them and scratch them to hell if I'm not there, he won't even walk with them on a lead if I'm not present...There's a few people who can handle him without me but those people at the Vet office are not one of them...

After discussing this for 20 minutes they refused to make any exceptions, I cannot enter the building with my dog, so I told them I am taking him elsewhere, I have no other choice...I called the next closest Vet in my area and when I called them I got lucky, the main doctor himself answered the phone...We talked a good 30 minutes, a most pleasant man and great conversation we had, I discussed my dilemma and my dog's issue and he said no problem...I can come in the office and exam room with my dog whilst they do their exams and whatnot...So Monday at 14:30 Kobi meets his new Vet...

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The shadow

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Our kids chose to stay virtual learning
Samantha is still in person. This is very careful in what we do.
 
nivek

nivek

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nivek said:
So now I have to change the veterinarian I've had for 8 years because of covid (thanks again and fu China)...I haven't taken my dog to his Vet at all this year, he didn't need to see the doctor until recently and called them this morning to set an appointment for some scratching he's been doing lately on his back...He's had this issue before and they gave him some Apoquel and antibiotics after an examination and that did the trick, however they said they need to reexamine him before they can prescribe those drugs again, okay no problem but there is a problem...

Their lobby is closed due to covid and they will not allow me to accompany my dog into the examination room as I have done for the past 8 years...That's the problem...My dog will not allow them or any other stranger handle him without me being present, he will bite them and scratch them to hell if I'm not there, he won't even walk with them on a lead if I'm not present...There's a few people who can handle him without me but those people at the Vet office are not one of them...

After discussing this for 20 minutes they refused to make any exceptions, I cannot enter the building with my dog, so I told them I am taking him elsewhere, I have no other choice...I called the next closest Vet in my area and when I called them I got lucky, the main doctor himself answered the phone...We talked a good 30 minutes, a most pleasant man and great conversation we had, I discussed my dilemma and my dog's issue and he said no problem...I can come in the office and exam room with my dog whilst they do their exams and whatnot...So Monday at 14:30 Kobi meets his new Vet...

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I did some follow-up reading on covid and veterinarians for North Carolina, which I had not done previously, and there was a statewide restriction on pet owners entering the veterinary clinics, however with NC in a phase one reopening that restriction is no longer in place statewide, each vet office can maintain that restriction or allow pet owners in their clinics...So the original veterinarian I used opted to keep the restriction in place whilst the new veterinarian I called today relaxed that restriction...

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SOUL-DRIFTER

SOUL-DRIFTER

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Why isn't hand washing and sanitizing being pushed more?!!
Mask wearing is NOT the answer to it all.
I see people who wear mask constantly touching them and never using hand sanitizers next to the door they enter in our local stores and convenience centers.
If you get it on your hands and then touch your mask, you are at greater risk than those without a mask but wash and sanitize their hands regularly.
Insane!!!
 
AD1184

AD1184

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SOUL-DRIFTER said:
Why isn't hand washing and sanitizing being pushed more?!!
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Because there isn't much evidence of significant indirect transmission through infected surfaces outside of a hospital setting, and this is largely a theoretical risk. The disease spreads primarily through contact with infected individuals and via their projected respiratory droplets, which a mask will largely contain.

COVID-19 Is Transmitted Through Aerosols. We Have Enough Evidence, Now It Is Time to Act.

If you get it on your hands and then touch your mask, you are at greater risk than those without a mask but wash and sanitize their hands regularly.
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The point of a mask is to contain the respiratory droplets of an infected person, not primarily to protect the wearer. But also, cite your source to the effect that hand sanitization is more effective than mask wearing in avoiding Covid infection.
 
michael59

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AD1184 said:
Because there isn't much evidence of significant indirect transmission through infected surfaces outside of a hospital setting, and this is largely a theoretical risk. The disease spreads primarily through contact with infected individuals and via their projected respiratory droplets, which a mask will largely contain.

COVID-19 Is Transmitted Through Aerosols. We Have Enough Evidence, Now It Is Time to Act.


The point of a mask is to contain the respiratory droplets of an infected person, not primarily to protect the wearer. But also, cite your source to the effect that hand sanitization is more effective than mask wearing in avoiding Covid infection.
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Why are there no bio hazard bins for masks and gloves if this virus is so contagious and deadly?
 
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From Kate's FB:
A second lady causing problems. She was caught without a mask. She claimed that the Constitution gave her the right to breath "freely unfeathered and unhindered" that she would sue for the breach of her "God given Constitutional right not to wear a mask "
In the end she was removed. She may have a right not to wear a mask but she also must face the consequences on not wearing one.
She was lead out shouting "resist the unlawful unconstitutional and inmoral order" and for officers to show her the law passed by Congress" sigh..
 
The shadow

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More from her FB:
A woman at work was screaming" do not appoch me! 6 feet minimum distance all times! " Waving her phone around yelling "come closer and I will have you arrested! I prefer charges!"
It got to a point management had her removed.
On the way out she was screaming for a C19 test and for the manager and cops to be tested. She was yelling"I have lawyers" as she got the boot. Have we come to that?
 
nivek

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AD1184

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michael59 said:
Why are there no bio hazard bins for masks and gloves if this virus is so contagious and deadly?
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Well, I mentioned that the transmission is not principally through fomites. Whatever refuse receptacles are provided are the responsibility of local authorities. The British government advises that PPE used for 'social distancing' should be disposed of in general waste receptacles. This is because someone who is using PPE for this purpose is unlikely to be infected and the equipment is no more likely to be harbouring virus particles than any other object of waste. Those handling waste are likely treating all of it, whether it is PPE or not, as potentially harbouring coronavirus particles.

If you are 'self-isolating' because you have, or are suspected to have, Covid, then you should not be going out. The government advise that if you have used PPE while self isolating that you should double bag it after use and wait three days before placing it in general waste containers (in order to allow the virus particles time to become unviable, or 'die').

I don't accept the inference that the lack of specialized containers for used PPE means that the authorities do not consider the virus to be contagious or deadly.
 
nivek

nivek

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I think this is going a bit extreme with mask wearing...x...3

 
nivek

nivek

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AD1184 said:
If you are 'self-isolating' because you have, or are suspected to have, Covid, then you should not be going out.
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Even if one suspects he or she has just a cold or sinus infection one should stay at home, not only will the symptoms appear to be covid but that individual could be more at risk of getting covid because of his or her weakened condition...

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