UFO Animal Reaction Research.

karl 12

Noble
Quite a number of pretty bizarre UFO animal reaction cases out there and research scientist Linda Zimmerman goes into quite some detail about the subject in the interview below.


From 10:30



Guest Linda Zimmermann to discuss the reactions of animals during UFO sightings, which may provide clues to the nature of the phenomenon and how to conduct better research. So many sightings occur because the witness was alerted by a dog barking, or barnyard animals making sounds of alarm, but that aspect is usually just a brief mention in reports.


Back in the day Joan Woodward also conducted some great research which can be found on the NICAP website - the file 'Animal Reactions to UFOs: A Summary of the Evidence' can be found at the bottom of the link below and there"s also an interesting one about fish reaction here.


This page represents the work being done by Joan Woodward (Animal Reaction Specialist) and Jean Waskiewicz (NICAP's Computer Database Specialist) and is under construction. Joan Woodward's excellent report us linked below. This is summarized version from the original paper, Animal Reactions to UFOs: A Preliminary Investigation from the Animals' Perspective, MUFON Special Publication, July 2005, 60 pp, published as a submitted paper in the 36th Annual International UFO Symposium, (2005)

Links:

NSID Listing of Animal Reaction Cases (PDF File)

Woodward Summary (PDF File)


Plenty of cases out there but If anyone's aware of any other relevant examples then please post away - always found it a bit freaky that directly after the Stanford incident Louise Smith's pet parakeet was 'terrified' of her.




And that after Robert Taylor's UFO encounter his dog refused to leave the house for months afterwards.




The Mellen's family dog also seemed pretty freaked out.



She saw the same or a similar silver domed disc, now hovering over some evergreens. She went inside for heavier clothing and when she came out she brought the family dog with her. As they walked toward the evergreens, the dog gave a big yelp and started to whine and paw at her ears and then became completely still. Jane carried the dog back into the house because she refused to move.


And also quite a few other UFO incidents involving very strange cattle behaviour like in the Rosedale, Godfrey and Edwin Fuhr cases.

Edwin Fuhr:



During the time that 5 flat bottomed, spinning domed objects were hovering 12 to 18 inches above the grass, cattle in a nearby field were reported to have been bellowing and to have broken through a fence in four places. Observations of the objects and of the cattle were made independently by different people. The direction in which the cattle were moving relative to the objects was not stated.

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karl 12

Noble
Bluebook's Dr Hynek describing one involving rabbits.




And also a pretty freaky one from Australia involving dogs.



Seasonal parties, previously well behaved, suddenly erupted into antisocial behaviour. Residents reported their animals cowered and hid, and many dogs howled for no apparent reason. Car patrols were dispatched from one spot to another as the object moved back and forth over the area.All callers gave the same account of a saucer-shaped craft, 20 to 30 meters across, surrounded by bright white light, and with intense shafts of light that penetrated the foaming water below, or when away from the water, once the shafts of white light were off, underneath was a red glow or flashing red-orange lights.The event largely died out around dawn at 5am, after Police units had been dispatched on over 35 calls..
 

karl 12

Noble
Dad tale below of dog passing away after UFO encounter (details of autopsy found at link) - sourced from APRO Bulletin, August issue, 1977.


Angel Maria Tonna, a 52-year-old rancher, and his foreman, witnessed a fiery disc-like two plates placed face to face hovering a short distance above the ground behind the barn. The cows “were going crazy” and all the dogs were barking. The object approached, and Tonna felt electric shocks that went all through his body and a very intense heat hit him. Three days after the event, Tonna’s dog, who had been 15 from the object, was found dead.

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His dog Topo (Dunce in Spanish) who was a constant companion during Tonna's walks around the ranch, was with him. "Then I heard a noise" he said, and he saw a fiery disc like two plates placed face to face hovering a short distance above the ground behind the barn. He stood and watched the object until his foreman told him the cows were running away, then he noticed that the cows "were going crazy" and all the dogs were barking.

At this point, the disc began to move in a southerly direction, breaking off the branches of a tree near the barn. The object displayed a rocking motion as it flew, and stopped and hovered over some trees about 100 yards south of the barn at an altitude of about 60 feet. It stayed there only a moment, then moved east another 75 yards or so, and stopped above a concrete bath that the cows were forced to walk through to disinfect them. By then, Tonna and his dog, a 60-pound black and brown police dog, had run back to the west side of the barnyard and climbed back over the fence. The light from the object illuminated the whole barnyard, and Tonna said he felt attracted to it. Tonna and Topo walked a few feet toward the UFO and it made another turn and began moving toward them. It came to a stop about 60 feet from them and Topo ran toward it to attack it and protect Tonna, but stopped and sat on a small mound about 15 feet from the object and looked up at it and howled. When the object started moving toward Tonna, he noticed six beams of light "like small wings" - three on each side.

At that point, Tonna said, he felt electric shocks which went all through his body and a very intense heat hit him. He flung his arm up over his face to shield his eyes. He said he felt attracted to the light and couldn't move. "I don't know if I couldn't move or didn't want to," he said. After several minutes the object began moving away, turning from its original bright orange color to red. It increased its speed as the color changed and when it got to the forest about a half a mile to the south, it was out of sight..

Following the incident the dog would not eat or drink. He moved around normally but stayed in the house all day, which was unusual. On the morning of the third day after the incident, Topo was found dead on the same mound where he had sat and howled at the disc.

1977: Dog dies after close encounter on ranch in Salto, Uruguay


And another strange dog death reported by Henrico County Sheriff A.D. "Toby" Mathews - Source: The Richmond Times-Dispatch.


"I happened to look up and there was that UFO right above the cornfield, it was just hovering right up above the power lines" about 200 feet in the air, Mathews said. The craft, which Mathews described as white and about 30 feet in diameter, made hardly a sound and emitted no light. The object was about 4 or 5 feet wide at its widest point, which was in the middle, he said. "It was just like the ones you see on TV," Mathews said. "It was a bright moon that night," so he got a good look at it. Mathews said he ran back inside his house to get a flashlight, and when he returned and shined it on the craft, the UFO turned slightly, emitted a burst of light and "took off like a bullet, just tremendously fast." Mathews said he rechained the dog and went to bed after the craft disappeared, and he got up about 5 the next morning and went out to check on his dog. He let it run loose for a few minutes, as was his routine, but the dog didn't come back. Mathews said he canvassed the area, but the dog was nowhere to be found. When he returned home, he was startled to find his dog lying motionless in the middle of the road just beyond his circular driveway. He was dead. "He didn't have a mark on him -- no blood, no singe [marks], no nothing," Mathews recalled. "It looked like he almost was sleeping. And whatever killed him, they had taken his chain collar off" and dropped it on the shoulder of the road. "I couldn't believe how it got off him like it did."

Sheriff reveals 1966 UFO encounter and death of dog
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Hello Karl, great to see you, hope you're doing well, this is a great topic that isn't discussed much...Here's an interesting report of UFO encounters affecting the local wildlife...

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Low Level UFO Encounter with Strange Electronic and Animal Affects Reported near the Chestnut Ridge in Pennsylvania

On the evening of June 4, 2019 two people were traveling near the Youngstown side of the Chestnut Ridge not far from Latrobe in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. The sky was clear with good visibility. The passenger in the car suddenly yelled out, “What are those lights”? The driver was watching the road and didn’t notice them until they were pointed out.

The passenger was confused about what she was seeing since it looked so unusual. She saw what appeared to be a glass tube cylinder among bright lights that seemed to be covered with a smoke or haze. The cylinder appeared to be attached to a large V shaped object with several rows of different colored lights.


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This sketch of the object was drawn by one of the witnesses.

The driver pulled the car over and stopped the vehicle so he could view what the other person was watching. The man said he was amazed when he looked up and noticed the odd sight in the sky approximately 80-100 yards away from the vehicle. Hovering about 60 feet over the trees was a very strange looking object in the shape of a V. The V shape was made up of numerous small rectangular shaped white lights. These lights were glowing but would brighten and dim at times. The driver estimated that there could have been 50 or more lights. The object was estimated to be about 40-50 feet long.

Above the smaller lights were four larger round lights that were strobing and orange, blue, red, and green in color. The brightness of these colors appeared pale compared to the smaller rectangular white lights. These lights seem to strobe from left to right. There was a larger light that produced a beam that was scanning the sky above the object.

The driver lowered the windows as they continued to watch the object. The two observers were amazed that the hovering object was completely silent. As the witnesses continued to watch the object, some odd affects took place. The driver stated that it was as though “the electronic system of the car was having a seizure.” The radio was off at the time, however they suddenly began to hear an odd clicking sound inside the vehicle but they were unable to locate the source. At the same time it was noticed that the dash lights were dimming on and off with the beat of the clicking sound. The driver also stated that soon after he was having a problem with his cell phone dropping the signal several times.

The observers watched the object for about 3 minutes but became very disturbed by the encounter and decided to leave the area and continue down the road. The passenger stated, “we were beside ourselves in awe.” They didn’t even think of trying to take a picture.

The object was still hovering as they began to drive down the road going about 30 miles per hour. That is when something else strange occurred. About 30 seconds after they left the location of the observation, a deer ran out from the woods in front of their car. The driver of the car is an experienced outdoorsman and said the deer looked dazed and confused. It was moments later that another deer did the same thing. Then just a short distance down the road a bird hit the car windshield and continued on.

As they continued for another short distance an even stranger animal encounter took place.

The driver, who is very familiar with the native animals around the area, saw a creature that startled him. He said this creature stopped about 7 feet in front of his vehicle. This creature was directly in his headlights and he got a good look at it. He knew what it was but the animal has been declared extirpated in Pennsylvania for many years.

He is certain he saw a “wolverine.” The animal looked directly at the vehicle and was about 4 feet long from tail to snout. It had light brown hair with dark spots with tuffs of tan and white hair. It had its mouth open and showed its teeth before running off. Its body was thicker than the fishers that have been seen around this area. The witness said he was dumfounded. As they continued on, more deer quickly exited the woods.


The driver commented, “all of these animals seemed confused and frightened. They were all crossing the road as to evade something that had scared them. I was in a state of amazement at what we encountered. I’ll never forget that strange night.”


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Photo of a section of the Chestnut Ridge near where the object was observed.

Addendum:

In recent weeks, the national news media has been giving some serious attention to the UFO phenomena and focusing on observations made by our Navy pilots. I set up my UFO Hotline in 1969 to report sightings in the Keystone state and my phone never stops ringing with current and past observations. When I began in the field investigations of UFOs and other phenomena in 1965, it became apparent that many UFO sightings could be explained as natural or manmade in origin. However every year, I receive UFO reports from across Pennsylvania that are not so easily explained away.

During my nearly 60 years of research I have investigated multitudes of low level UFO incidents where large structured objects were observed at very close range. Many of these incidents occurred in daylight and were observed by more than one witness. These detailed close range UFO encounters have continued to occur in more recent years. During the last year and continuing into 2019, I have continued to receive reports of unusual aerial objects that are not easily dismissed.

The sighting that I have detailed occurred along the Chestnut Ridge. This area has a long history of mysterious encounters. There are commonly annual reports of UFOs, Bigfoot, and other anomalies reported through the Chestnut Ridge area of Westmoreland, Fayette, and Indiana counties in Pennsylvania.


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nivek

As Above So Below
Mathews said he rechained the dog and went to bed after the craft disappeared, and he got up about 5 the next morning and went out to check on his dog. He let it run loose for a few minutes, as was his routine, but the dog didn't come back. Mathews said he canvassed the area, but the dog was nowhere to be found. When he returned home, he was startled to find his dog lying motionless in the middle of the road just beyond his circular driveway. He was dead. "He didn't have a mark on him -- no blood, no singe [marks], no nothing," Mathews recalled. "It looked like he almost was sleeping. And whatever killed him, they had taken his chain collar off" and dropped it on the shoulder of the road. "I couldn't believe how it got off him like it did."

Sheriff reveals 1966 UFO encounter and death of dog
And another strange dog death reported by Henrico County Sheriff A.D. "Toby" Mathews - Source: The Richmond Times-Dispatch.

He should have had an autopsy done on the dog to find out the cause of death, was it radiation or something else?...What type of radiation if it was the cause of death?...What if it was something else, maybe some intrusive technology harmed the dog in the inside causing death?...There's too many questions to just bury the dog without an investigation...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Sounds a bit Skinwalker-ish.
Angry/freaky/scary rays, upset animals.

My dog is a chicken. The list of things she's NOT afraid of would be the short one.
 

karl 12

Noble
Hello Karl, great to see you, hope you're doing well, this is a great topic that isn't discussed much...Here's an interesting report of UFO encounters affecting the local wildlife...

Hello there Nivek, very good to see you too mate and certainly an interesting aspect to the UFO mystery - did enjoy reading that report you shared and do have a lot of respect for the Stan Gordon and the ex intel/police/military personnel involved in the 'Westmorland County UFO Study Group'.




Also some very relevant reading here from researcher James McCambell (sourced by Jeep3r).

Under circumstances clearly indicating a landed UFO was nearby, a Canadian woman heard knocks at her door. Her dog rushed forward, then suddenly retreated, trembling as if terrified, and retired into a comer. (67) When a man opened a door to investigate the cause of his dog's howling outside, the animal crawled in on its belly in abject terror. The man found a UFO and its pilots outside. (68) One of several dogs owned by a witness was so terrified that it ran into a barbed wire fence; the others whined while cowering on the ground. (69) A dog became disturbed in a car when a UFO was first sighted. By the time the driver was flagged down on the highway by the UFO people, the dog was lying in a tight ball under the seat, trembling violently. He was still cowering there two hours later..(70) A Frenchman out hunting with his dog saw two people climbing out of a small UFO on the ground, 40 meters away. He fled, but his dog, running toward the UFO, soon retreated, walking as though he were partially paralyzed.. (71) Three very fierce dogs inside the house, and two dozen fowls outside, were for forty minutes cowed and paralyzed by a vivid hot beam of light, varying in color from red to violet, directed at the house from one of a number of UFOs nearby. As the revolving beam returned and caught the dogs through the windows, they became apathetic and silent, recovering slightly in the intervals.. (72) Physiological effects among animals are by no means limited to dogs. Among the 200 cases under study, influences were also noted upon wild birds, pigeons, ducks, geese, chickens, turkeys, sheep, cows, horses, and cats. All these creatures are severely agitated by UFOs and they seem to fear them. A cat, hissing and spitting, leaped into the air and then hid under a bed, (75) sheep stampeded, (76) cows in the field panicked and ran away, (77) horses reared up and cattle did everything but turn somersaults, (78) and so on.. Some of them may have been paralyzed. With a whistling sound, a UFO landed in a meadow in Denmark. The witness became paralyzed when he approached within 50 meters and observed that nearby cows seemed unable to move. He further noted that birds had stopped singing.. (79) A UFO was spotted one night standing on three legs on some railroad tracks 300 meters from a man's home. It rose silently while a dome on top started to spin and the legs retracted. It was gone in 20 seconds. The next day, the witness inspected the site with his dog. There were no marks or traces, but one sniff sent the dog dashing away, howling.. (81) A thick, gray disc coming straight down over a farm in Australia threw all the animals into a panic. For several days the cows could not be herded into the paddock over which the UFO had hovered. (82) similar aversion was demonstrated by some cattle in Iowa. In the middle of the night, a cigar-shaped object remained on the ground for 20 minutes amidst a vivid, red illumination, crackling noises, and the odor of ozone. In the morning the cattle were found to have bolted to the end of the pasture, from where they refused to budge toward the landing site for feeding. (83)

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Cheers!
 

karl 12

Noble
He should have had an autopsy done on the dog to find out the cause of death, was it radiation or something else?...
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Another missed opportunity mate and god knows what's going on when it comes to these animal reactions and UFOs (whether it's EM radiation, microwaves, ultrasound etc. ) - did think Zimmerman brought up some intriguing factors like mechanoreceptors in the beaks of birds and magnetoreception molecules found in the eyes of dogs (and primates) though.

Also found it interesting that humans reported effects in the case below ('hair on their arms standing up' / 'sick to their stomachs') and suppose we're classified within the animal kingdom as well.


Human Related Physical Effects of UFOs in Close Proximity - A CATALOG OF UFO-RELATED HUMAN PHYSIOLOGICAL EFFECTS


UFO Case Directory (Animal Effect Cases): “Redlands, California February 4, 1968” “

Animal Reaction Feature:

Between 7:20 and 7:25 p.m. in a residential area, many people over several streets came outdoors because of the unusual barking of the dogs in the neighborhood and/or because of an unusual sound. A circular object at an estimated altitude of 300 feet was seen moving slowly to the ENE. Joan Woodward, Animal Reaction Specialist: It is estimated that 200 people saw or heard this object, including four University of Redlands professors (geology, mathematics, chemistry, and art) who became involved in the investigation. The object’s size was estimated to be 50 feet in diameter. It had lights on the base that appeared to expel jets of orange flame, and it had lights on the top that alternated red and green, giving the impression the object was rotating. The object flew slowly for about a mile, stopped and hovered briefly, jerked forward, hovered, and then shot straight up at high speed.

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Cheers.
 

karl 12

Noble
Another incident involving rabbits.

Animal Reaction Feature:

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Between 5:30 p.m. and 5:45 p.m. (dusk), the Milakovics and their son were driving through an area with fields on both sides of the road. They noticed first one rabbit and then several more scurry across the road from left to right. Looking left, they saw a brilliant object in the field to the left. Joan Woodward, Animal Reaction Specialist: The Milakovics stopped their car and got out as the object rose slowly and flew over their car. Doris Milakovic noticed the air temperature felt warmer as the object flew over head..

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Source / free E-Book (public domain) Keyhoe, Donald E., and Gordon I. R. Lore, Jr., 1969, Strange Effects from UFOs, Washington, D.C., NICAP, pages 29-30 (PDF File)


Thought this case involving cattle was also interesting as it might be another water collection candidate.

About 1 a.m. on a clear, calm, moon lit night, George Blackwell, 54, farm hand and caretaker, was awakened by a screeching whistle and the sounds of cattle bellowing and of a horse running about as if panicked. Looking out, he saw the cattle up in one corner of a paddock and the horse was running in a circle in a small paddock. He also saw an object with lights moving 8-10 feet above the ground. It was not illuminating the ground. For about 2 minutes, still making a whistling sound, the object moved about, passing near a shed, a hedge estimated 500 feet away, and a silo, and it hovered for a minute over a water tank, before settling on the ground. Dressing and going out on his motorbike, Blackwell rode toward the landed object, which was continuing to make a whistling sound. Stopping to open a gate, a disturbed cow, frothing at the mouth, came through the gate and hid itself in an adjacent shed. Blackwell rode his bike to 50 feet from the object and watched until it took off. A week after this event, cattle were still having to be rounded up to the east (at the end of a large paddock), and the stock would not go near the area of landing, marked by a dark ring on the ground.

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karl 12

Noble
Daylight disc freaks out farm animals inSaskatchewan, Canada - February 19, 1968.

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A small domed disc moved about a farm at very low altitude for 20 minutes during the noon hour. There was a penetrating high-pitched whine. When the object first appeared, a dog was seen cowering and lying in the snow, trying to cover its ears with its paws (possibly this could be translated as rubbing its face and ears with its paws--jw). As soon as the object left, the dog wanted to get into the house. Sixteen head of cattle, loose in the farmyard, bolted when the object moved into the area. They entered the cattle sheds and did not emerge until at least a half-hour after the object disappeared NICAP New Look Report


UFO freaks out cattle - New York, August 19, 1965.

A 3-year-old Holstein bull was secured to a steel bar outside of a dairy barn containing 17 cows. About 8:20 PM, Harold Butcher, 16, was operating the milking machine when the radio had static-like interference and the tractor motor running the milking machine cut off. The bull made a noise “like I have never heard come from an animal before.” Harold looked out the window at the bull, which was trying to get lose, and he saw an elliptical object nearing the ground with a “beep-beep” sound about a quarter of a mile away (1320 feet). After hovering briefly on or near the ground, the object shot up into low clouds. As the object rose, the noise pitch increased to a level approximating a sonic boom. The cows produced only one can of milk that evening rather than the normal 2 ½ cans. Later examination of the bar to which the bull was secured found it bent. The object was metallic-looking, football shaped, and estimated to be 50 feet long and 20 feet thick. A reddish vapor was emitted from the bottom area and when the object rose, the red vapor shot toward the ground and bounced back toward the object.

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Some interesting reading on Security Guard UFO sightings:

A number of years ago, a security guard working the late shift at Cairo Mill in Waterhead Oldham Greater Manchester, England, heard a noise outside the mill. Investigating he saw a saucer-shaped craft with a large window, thirty meters in diameter and lit with a blue light hanging over the building. After five minutes, the strange object shot up into the sky and disappeared. That was not the only thing that disappeared that night. Apparently the factory cat disappeared also at the same time.

Professional Security - Unearthly Encounters - UFOs and Security Guards by James Foster Robinson
 

karl 12

Noble
More on Linda Zimmerman's research into UFO animal reaction (focusing on dogs).


One of my favorite NICAP case involves “Thunder,” the 175-pound Great Dane who “went crazy” barking by the sliding doors toward the woods of his Sandy Hook, CT home at 8:30 pm on the night of March 31, 1983. After several minutes of incessant barking, his owner went to see what was causing Thunder so much distress. There was a massive V-shaped craft which remained hovering in the sky for 20 minutes. Thunder “appeared fearful and barked” the entire time, and the next day he refused to go outside. Anything that would provoke such fright in a 175-pound dog would certainly be enough to make me think twice about going outside! I recently interviewed a woman from Cresskill, New Jersey who had a German Shepherd named Hans, who had a similar reaction back in 1968. Hans was just two years old; strong, and very protective of his owner. While walking Hans near a schoolyard, the woman and her friend spotted a dumbbell-shaped craft hovering silently over the school field. They were mesmerized by the sight, but their “trance was broken” by Hans, who was “cowering, trying to dig a hole in the dirt on the side of Rose Street (which was unpaved at that time) and whimpering.” This fearful reaction by the usually fearless dog caused them all to run for home. Another dramatic case involved a golden retriever in Putnam Valley, NY in the fall of 1984. The witness, “Joe,” told me that one night his dog began to whine, so Joe assumed he wanted to go out. However, when he opened the back door, the dog began to tremble and whine even more. Joe finally got the dog outside, where he promptly curled up into a tight ball and whined in terror. It was then that Joe noticed the entire sky above him was blacked out. A massive black triangle, “the size of two football fields,” was hovering no more than 250 feet above him. Yelling for his wife, she came out and was also stunned and frightened by what she saw. The craft “just sat there” over them for at least five minutes. A week later, strange figures began appearing by Joe’s bed at night, he developed uncontrollable nose bleeds, and this activity continued until the following summer when he finally decided to move out of his house. Perhaps Joe should have paid more attention to his dog! Another case I just covered in my new book “More Hudson Valley UFOs” involved four witnesses on a hot, summer night in 1988. The four friends were by Lake DeForest in Congers, NY—a location I have written about on several occasions, and where I had my own intense experience. The dogs in the neighborhood “began howling crazily” and then an odd “snake-like” UFO appeared in the sky with alternating red and green lights composing the “body,” with a bright, white beacon at the “head.” Throughout the sighting, the “Dogs were barking and howling and making a total racket,” one witness told me. Another witness described the incredible sounds as “The dogs of Rockland (County) going out of their skulls.” As dogs are capable of hearing at distances four times greater than humans, and can hear at much higher frequencies, can we conclude that these craft—which are often silent to us—are emitting sounds that are alerting our dogs to their presence long before they come into our view? Should investigators consider utilizing sound detectors in the roughly 20,000 to 60,000Hz range to replicate the superior capabilities that dogs have over us? There were other cases of dog reactions with which I have dealt that may bear this sound theory out. During a cold winter’s night in 1985 in the town of Wallkill, NY, a man told me his dog “was barking frantically outside.” He tried several times to quiet the dog, to no avail. Then a 40-foot diameter sphere of multi-colored lights appeared over a field across the street. This bizarre craft, which looked like a “massive ball of Christmas lights” began rotating and moving, almost as if it was rolling down the field, only it definitely remained above the ground. After this craft “shot straight up into the air” and was gone, an enormous triangular craft passed directly over his house. How did the dog know these craft were in the area before they could be seen, and why was he so frightened by them? More recently, on January 4, 2013, a man in Pine Bush, NY, who works in law enforcement, couldn’t get his dogs to stop barking out in the yard. As he was trying to calm them down, he realized “There was something huge in the sky that blocked out all the stars.” The object was an incredibly large, silent rectangle at an altitude of about 200-250 feet. There were several white lights along the edges, one in the center, and one red light, as well. Finally, there is the remarkable case from Monroe, NY in 1982. A woman, Donna, was in bed with her husband when her two Samoyed dogs “started going crazy” as if there were intruders in the house. Donna tried to wake up her husband, but he somehow remained in a deep sleep despite all the barking. “Then there were these bright lights shining in the bedroom window, as if a Mack truck had just pulled up.” The next thing Donna knew was that it was morning. Her skeptical husband didn’t believe a word of what she told him about the dogs and the lights, and her being unable to awaken him—until he went outside to look for any signs that something had been there. Running back in the house, white as a sheet, he told Donna that the huge pile of sand that was in the driveway (which was going to be used for a construction project) was completely gone. All that was left was a few concentric circles of sand which had been compressed and fused into the blacktop! Fortunately, they had the presence of mind to take photographs, so we can estimate the size of the outermost circle, which was about 12 feet in diameter. And while the original circles have been paved over, Donna told me that I would be welcome to uncover and study them, if I can find the appropriate scientific team to do it. So what are we to learn from “man’s best friends” and their reactions to UFOs? They are able to sense a lot more than we are, and can sense whatever it is at greater distances and long before our eyes and ears can pick it up. Researchers and investigators should always include questions about witnesses’ pets, as well as inquire about the reactions of birds, livestock, wild animals such as deer, and insects. There is more to UFO phenomena than we can probably imagine, but with the help of the faithful family dog, perhaps we can gain a little more insight and knowledge into the nature of the phenomena. link
 

karl 12

Noble
Pretty awesome series of interviews with former Police Officer John Hanson citing some of the lesser known historical British UFO reports from his co-authored series of books 'Haunted Skies'.



This is the first of a ground-breaking new series compiled by former Police Officer John Hanson and his partner Dawn Holloway, together with David Sankey, a veteran UFO researcher and artist. The multi-part series covers British UFO sightings from 1940 to the present day. This first volume deals with UFO reports from 1940-1959; nineteen tumultuous years during which Britain won a war, lost an empire, buried a king, crowned a queen, and saw a new breed of consumer prosperity rise from the ashes of post-war austerity.

People who have followed the UFO subject in any depth will not be surpised to discover that the UFOs encountered during these two decades follow the socio-political changes of the people who witnessed them to a remarkable degree. Haunted Skies is the most ambitious series of books ever attempted in the history of ufology, and will - no doubt - provide a new benchmark in the quality of such publications."


Lots (and lots) of extremely strange reports including quite a compelling one where a retired 'UFO sceptic' Police Officer went fishing on a river and witnessed a daylight close range metallic, saucer shaped object 'sucking up water' - some strange temporal goings on reported and apparently during the sighting his bait maggots pupated into casters (which should have taken 2 days).
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Hello there Nivek, very good to see you too mate and certainly an interesting aspect to the UFO mystery - did enjoy reading that report you shared and do have a lot of respect for the Stan Gordon and the ex intel/police/military personnel involved in the 'Westmorland County UFO Study Group'.




Also some very relevant reading here from researcher James McCambell (sourced by Jeep3r).



Cheers!


That UFO hovering near conifer trees is a button. If you wait a while, you can see that UFO covers a branch, instead of a branch covering UFO. What people do they stick a button on the glass window pane. George Adamski was doing that all the time.
 

karl 12

Noble
That UFO hovering near conifer trees is a button. If you wait a while, you can see that UFO covers a branch, instead of a branch covering UFO. What people do they stick a button on the glass window pane. George Adamski was doing that all the time.


Thanks for that Dejan, the images found in the trailer are all CGI recreations used to illustrate the sightings in Seth Breedlove's documentary are in no way meant to be taken as examples of real footage.

Here's another strange one from the Everglades on March 15th, 1965 - apparently a man was knocked unconscious by a UFO light beam (physical trace evidence and animal reaction also reported).




As he neared the object, Flynn saw the craft was not a plane, but a large, cone-shaped machine hovering a few feet above the ground. The craft was about 75 feet in diameter at the base and 25-30 feet high. Four rows of ports of windows were visible, with yellow light shining through them. Flynn heard a whirring like 'a diesel generator,' which disturbed one of his dogs 'who was howling in his cage and trying to get out', but could observe no equipment or occupants. After several minutes, Flynn approached the craft, Within 200 yards of the UFO, jumped out of his swamp buggy, stepping into the circle of light and raising his hand as a friendly gesture in case he was being watched. As he did this, the UFO emitted a jet-like noise and a blast of wind that knocked him off-balance. As he continued to approach within a few yards, the UFO emitted a light beam like a welder's torch, striking him on the forehead and knocking him unconscious. Later he told the local newspaper "I felt a blow like a sledgehammer between the eyes, and that's all I know."

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Cheers.
 

karl 12

Noble
Newsclipping collection from Loren E. Gross - selected articles involving animal reaction.


Some UFO Notes By Loren E. Gross

Having completed a detailed survey of UFO material covering the years 1896 to 1963, I came across some English language newspaper clippings primarily from the 1970s and 1980s.

Excerpts:

• It couldn’t have been anything else [but a UFO]. It hovered above Grossmont Hospital, not doing much, just staying still. It was pulsating with its lights flicking off and on. Lights seemed to be dimming all around the hospital – streetlights and parking lights. It was almost as if it was draining energy from those lights,” she said.... “It was completely white and had an outline like a saucer... My parakeets were going crazy. They were screeching at the top of their lungs. Dogs were barking everywhere.”
* San Diego, California Union. 9 September 1977. ---



•Gliding toward her as she manned a watchtower at the town’s French and Hecht plant, the disc obscured a flashing red beacon light on a grain elevator. Her radio and walkie-talkie stopped working, and cows and crickets in a nearby field stood silent. A light-sensitive mercury vapor lamp about 100 yards away from the woman went dark. A television in a nearby farm house went blank... * Moline, Illinois. Daily Dispatch. 7 January 1978.



•Ruby Campa said her dogs, Charley, Trixie and Tiny, went wild. The image on her color television set turned green. Mrs. Campa, 37, who lives in the rural Howard’s Creek area just west of Lincolnton, and her daughter, Frances, 16, ran outside to see what was going on. Overhead was a flying object, gliding at about treetop level. It was star-shaped with lots of points coming out of it, gliding until it got way over in the sky... * Charlotte, North Carolina. Observer. 9 March 1981 ---



•Doug [Fields] tried to take pictures as it hovered out back over their chicken coop. Using Instamatic and Polaroid cameras, with and without flash, he took several shots. But none turned out. The film in both were completely black. This including pictures previously taken on the film in the Instamatic! Another unusual incident happened four days later. All the hens in his chicken coop went bald!
* Cannon Falls, Minnesota. Cannon Falls Beacon. 6 May 1976. ---



•“It appeared to be heading straight for the car so I slammed on the brakes. It seemed to be vaguely triangular shaped with rapidly rotating and pulsating lights of different colors. It was completely silent as I rolled down the window to see if I could hear anything. Just at that moment a dog from a nearby yard came barking into the street at the thing in the sky. Suddenly an orangish-yellow beam shot down and the dog disappeared. * Charlotte, North Carolina. The Charlotte News. 11 February 1972. ---



•“When Johnnie [Beer – yes that’s his real name] turned north at Riverside School, the object circled and traveled in front of him,” she [Mrs. Wayne Beer] said. “As he turned west to the farm the light turned again and followed him into the farmyard where it hovered over the corral. “Johnnie said he ran into the house and closed the doors and drapes but when we arrived home about a half hour later, we didn’t see anything,” Mrs. Beer said. “But the next morning, the bottom two wires of the corral looked like they had been cut and twisted up in a pile in the corral, and several of our milk cows have burn spots on their backs.” Mrs. Beer said in the burn spots the hair was singed to the skin, ranging from the size of a person’s fist to larger circles. * Larned, Kansas. Larned Daily Tiller & Toiler. 10 February 1972. ---



•It started moving towards the field opposite us and I saw two red beams going round, illuminating the whole area. It moved over us and beamed down a green light. There were lots of lights flashing and we heard a very high pitch beeping noise. Janet went on: “Although we couldn’t actually see it we could tell what shape it was from the position of the lights and it looked like a space craft. “It was absolutely massive. We were terrified, my friend couldn’t speak and her dog was shivering and shaking and trying to bite her hand. We just ran to a nearby farm and phoned the police.” * Ormskirk, England. Advertiser. 18 September 1980. --'



When she got out of bed she heard a penetrating sound like a “huge swarm of bees” (which continued throughout the observation) and when she opened the door, her dog ran and hid under her bed with his paws covering its ears. Before closing the door Mrs. [Harold] Eggers saw a circular UFO with a dome on its top and having around 12 square windows hovering about 50 feet off the ground about 90 feet away from her home. * Lumberton, North Carolina. The Robesonian. 4 December 1973.
 

karl 12

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Cont:

“I know what I seen,” said Ernie Pacheco. “I don’t care what anybody thinks. “Whatever it was, I don’t know. I just hope it don’t come back.” What Pacheco says he saw was a huge, rectangular-shaped Unidentified Flying Object, hovering early Sunday morning over the Benton County dairy farm where he works. Pacheco, 45, who came to the farm about a year ago, was nervous as he talked about the experience Tuesday afternoon. He chain-smoked cigarettes as he sat at the kitchen table of the home he, his wife and three of their children occupy on the Horning Dairy farm, 3 ½ miles north of Monroe on Highway 99W. “I have no idea what it was,” Ernie said, “no idea at all. It was just strange, that’s all – and scary. I guess most people wouldn’t be scared, but I was.” It all started about midnight Saturday, Ernie said, when the family’s dogs started barking and the 146 Holstein dairy cattle started “stampedin’ around” in the loafing shed – a slope-roofed building about 75 yards from the house. Ernie went out to check, found nothing, and returned to the house for a cup of coffee before starting his pre-dawn milking routine. “My guess is that whatever it was, the cow’s seen it,” he said. And the dogs were raising all kinds of heck – they were all shook up.” After his coffee, Ernie went back out to herd the cows into the milking parlor. “They were in an uproar,” he said. “I can usually bring 146 cows into the wash stalls without using a push gate, but I had to use it that night. “About 3:30, I guess it was, all the lights went out in the parlor. When I opened the door, I seen this big high thing ... I would say about three stories high. “It looked like a hotel more than anything. It looked like it had three layers of windows, like compartments... Eugene, Oregon. Register-Guard. 21 April 1976.



Alan Wagner, a toll-taker on the Norbert F. Beckey Bridge in Muscatine, was getting ready to feed wild rabbits early one morning in July when he noticed something strange. The rabbits, who usually ran away when humans came around, were stretched out flat on the cement pavement. That’s when he noticed a strange object hovering over the treetops on the Illinois side on the Mississippi River. Wagner is one of three persons who reported seeing unidentified flying objects in Muscatine on three consecutive nights in July. * Des Moines, Iowa. Register. 8 August 1981. ---



[Patricia] Vietch reports that one relative from Germany Valley was picking alfalfa for her rabbits one night last October, and while doing this, saw a huge object as big as a house fly over her. It had jagged edges [?] and went past her very quickly. She ran back to her truck and told her husband about the incident... “A strange thing happened when the couple arrived home. They placed the alfalfa in the rabbits‘ cages, but the rabbits did not eat the alfalfa. In fact, they would not even go near the alfalfa. * Orbisonia, Pennsylvania. The Valley Log. 14 January 1981. ---



This UFO did more than just take the water. An elderly woman on a farm heard a strange sound so she looked out the window. She saw a UFO: ...hovering above the farm pond. Soon, the ship flew away and the pond was gone. No fish, no water, and no vegetation was left. The bottom of the pond was dry and cracked. * Brandenburg, Kentucky. Pioneer. 23 February 1988. ---



There he was, he said, on the night of December 20th, at 3:45 a.m. driving down I-84. He was 65 miles east of Ogden when he saw this startling object off to the side of the highway. “There was a rectangular shape, it was low toward the ground and I saw it picking up deer,” he said. “I know,” he agreed. “If someone told me this I would think they was crazy too.” “But yes,” he said, “that’s what he saw.” “It had to be about...shoot! I’m trying to figure out the size. It was about as wide as a big house and I just seen it picking up deer. It was unbelievable.” * Ogden, Utah. Standard-Examiner. 17 February 1988. ---



An unidentified flying object has snatched two chickens from a farm in Chions, Italy – according to two eye-witnesses. They say the flying saucer zapped the hens with a blue light beam before carrying them off. There have been 20 UFO incidents in the area since August 1st. * London, England. Daily Express. 21 August 1987.[/size][/ex] Not AR but had to include this one. [ex]a man and his wife saw a UFO on a highway near Annapolis [Missouri]. They got out of their truck and stood in the road watching it. Suddenly it came toward them and the man got so scared he jumped into the truck, locked both doors and took off down the highway leaving his wife standing in the middle of the road. * Ironton, Missouri. Ironton Mountain Echo. 5 April 1973.

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1963

Noble
Hi Karl , hope you and yours are well matey. :Thumbsup: ... And what can I say? ... i've been totally engrossed in this latest brilliant thread of yours Mi Amigo! ... in fact it has been an absolutely riveting read, .. some i'm already familiar with, but there are a multitude of reports/cases that I haven't heard of before. I will say that the whole 'animal reaction' aspect of the thread doesn't come as such a revelation to my mind, as I am fully aware of the far superior senses that practically all of our planet-sharing creatures posses. And therefor it only stands to reason that they would sense and react to the presence of such 'un-natural life forms' much quicker than human comprehension of danger... [and given their sub-human.. or primitive powers of reason] ... they would in fact protest quicker and longer than the average human would. ... Well that's my take on this anyway mate, [but of course, as always I could be oversimplifying the situation lol.]
...But i'm pleased that you opened with .. " Louise Smith's pet parakeet was 'terrified' of her." as The Stanford Kentucky Abduction case is a particular favourite of mine, as it's one of the very few [famous] 'Alien Abduction' cases ' that I give any credence to at all [again .. just my opinion, but the vast majority of these 'special claims' are fabrications.] .. but this one strikes a different cord in my personal-discernment. I always felt a particular honesty emanated from the ladies ... even though a normal 'red-flag-moment' was when I read that ...
At last contact with Mrs. Lorenzen by telephone, Mrs. Smith intimated that she was beginning to have recall of the whole experience, and asked that Mrs. Lorenzen not divulge the details as she was writing a book about the experience.
.. Which is [as I say] normally a bit of a $-ringing-integrity-busting sign to my mind, but somehow doesn't dent the prestige of this claim at all for me.
ps .. Have you seen this little news revisit section from the LEX19 news station from about 7 years ago, which features Mona Stafford more than 35 years later? ..

Cheers Buddy.
 

karl 12

Noble
Hi Karl , hope you and yours are well matey.

Hey very nice to see you mate and hope all is good with you and yours too - did think this was a truly interesting angle and the Linda Zimmerman interview was a mighty fine one.

Have to agree with you about the Stanford incident mate - a truly intriguing one and God knows what that parrot was so scared of. Also interesting that there were claims of separately located witnesses at the same time and area (like so many other UFO cases).


The book tells of several other claims by residents in the area whom Stringfield interviewed. Some are not identified, such as “Mr. and Mrs. OT,” who lived several hundred yards away from the site of the incident and described an unusual light in the sky about 11:30 the same night. The object was traveling south and shaped like a light bulb with a steady, glowing neon light. Other witnesses Stringfield, now deceased, wrote that as he continued to probe into the three-county area (Lincoln, Casey and Garrard), the steady flow of reports led to a continual list of residents claiming abnormal sightings at the same time that evening. Randall Floyd lived in Morgan Manor near Stanford and was quoted as saying, “The whole neighborhood saw it.” Other locals seeing the UFO were Mike Fitzpatrick, David Irvin and his parents. They all described seeing an object hovering over a manufacturing plant..

http://articles.centralkynews.com/2010-09-24/news/24940233_1_ufo-encounter-alien-encounter-abduction

This case also had other observers of the UFO that night, independent of Stafford, Smith, and Thomas. These sightings occurred in Casey and Lincoln counties, Kentucky. Within a couple of hundred yards of the abduction, one couple watched from the window of their home a "large, luminous object," which passed over the Stanford area. This occurred about 11:30 P.M. The couple wanted to remain anonymous. Other observers reported also, describing a ring of "reddish orange" lights around a disc-shaped flying object. Two teenagers, out for a joy ride, stated that they chased a low-flying UFO after it had hovered over the Angel Manufacturing Plant in Stanford. They chased the strange object all the way to Danville, and there they reported the object to Police. Another very significant report came from the owner of the property where the three women's abduction took place. The farmer stated that "down the road" from his house, he witnessed an unusually low-flying object which shot a white beam of light to the ground. h
ttp://www.ufocasebook.com/Stanford.html


The ladies also reported damage to their eyes after the event like other UFO witnesses such as Gary Wood, Robert Taylor, Val Johnson, Carl Higdon etc. and don't know if you've seen it but there's a vid below featuring Lydia Morel's investigation.





Dont think we'll ever get to the bottom of it mate but we can of course look for patterns in data and, although it's quite a freaky one, did think this interview with abduction researcher John Carpenter was well worth a watch.




Cheers!
 
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1963

Noble
The ladies also reported damage to their eyes after the event like other UFO witnesses such as Gary Wood, Robert Taylor, Val Johnson, Carl Higdon etc. and don't know if you've seen it but there's a vid below featuring Lydia Morel's investigation.




Yes, thanks for that recording mate, it was very interesting and the more that I see of this case... the more convincing it becomes. .. Which is not always the case. .. I would agree that it has no scientific value whatsoever , but the truth is that Personally these three actual witnesses?/experiencers?/victims? [well ladies anyway] hold the same kind of prestige as regards to being genuine as the two other 'big-time' UFO-witness-with-physical-injuries... Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum , ... although I have always maintained that the C/L incident was a case of 'wrong place at right time' because imho, it was caused by a US military test gone wrong ... but in the Stanford Case, I do believe that the phenomena of genuine AA is pretty rare .. but the ladies were actually abducted by extraterrestrials! .. There you go, cards on the table, i've actually said it lol.


Dont think we'll ever get to the bottom of it mate but we can of course look for patterns in data and, although it's quite a freaky one, did think this interview with abduction researcher John Carpenter was well worth a watch.


Cheers!

Thanks for the video Karl, just watched it and enjoyed it, and I have to say that Carpenter came across as being pretty knowledgeable [as expected with his experience] ... but the problem that I have with the whole Alien Abduction claim aspect of the ETH is based mainly on the 'believability' of most of the witnesses, and secondly the 'hypnotic-regression aspect that accompanies the vast majority of these claims... It's not that HR could be a real godsend in providing proof of such claims , as would an infallible polygraph procedure, ... but the thing is that just as in the polygraph testing, it is not infallible at all is it?... in as much as it is largely down to the testers/analyst's line of questioning and interpretations of the respondent's replies to those questions and subtle suggestions. ... And not wanting to sound like some pseudopsychologicalsceptic myself, I can also easily believe that even with the sincerest intentions present in the tester/analyst that mistakes in techniques and interpretations are almost inevitable.
... And it doesn't help the when there is a whiff of impropriety that comes with the 'so-called-impeachable-expert' as i've found out that it certainly does with John Carpenter.
here is the full account of the impropriety that I was referring to ... The UFO Trail: The Carpenter Affair: For the Record
... it's a bit of a read, ... but the upshot is that Carpenter was actually selling his clients .. their stories, their historical medical records, their hypnotic session tapes etc to billionaire Robert Bigelow for $100 apiece , all after he had assured them that it was all totally confidential! [he got suspended from practising for five years for it] and you may or may not think that his indiscretions are particularly damning, ... but for me it shows a lack of integrity that I need to believe that he wouldn't intentionally lead any of his clients or deliberately downplay the tell-tale signs of his clients dishonesty for the sake of meeting his quotas ... we all need money, but he deliberately lied on that aspect of his professionalism, and if you read the link properly, you can plainly see that it was just one of a series of untruths that the man has been responsible for.
As I say mate, there are not really that many 'well-known' alien abduction cases that I give much credence to, and in fact I generally follow Jerome Clark's mantra of "multiple sightings, conscious memories of UFO sightings and missing time." [of which you yourself have provided many examples of] ... and no matter the weirdness of the account and the trashing of the witness by debunkers, ... Jerry stands by them , like this one that he personally investigated himself back in the mid-seventies ... The Sandra Larson incident
SANDY LARSON 1975 UFO ABDUCTION by UFO WARNING • A podcast on Anchor
... as I said, Jerry is my hero in this field, ... but ? mmm! ... what do you think of Sandy's claim Karl?

Cheers Buddy.
 

1963

Noble
Dad tale below of dog passing away after UFO encounter (details of autopsy found at link) - sourced from APRO Bulletin, August issue, 1977.





And another strange dog death reported by Henrico County Sheriff A.D. "Toby" Mathews - Source: The Richmond Times-Dispatch.

Very interesting cases there Karl, [and also sad for a big-dog-softy like me] ... I immediately thought that from the first dog's autopsy that some kind of 'microwave-propulsion' may be the cause, and so I looked up the conceptual possibilities of such a device being possible at all. ..And low and behold, even we puny-minded-humans have been theorising such a possibility for a couple of decades now. ... But on the downside to this musing is the fact that the "EmDrive." as it has been proposed is basically only going to be any good once in space, as it's theoretical power would not be very efficient against the gravitational forces down here in Earth's atmosphere. ... Also, there is the fact that while the veins, liver and fat were in effect cooked by whatever force was guilty, there was no sign of any adverse effects on the dogs body [ie, the meat on his back wasn't cooked] , and the fact that it took the dog three days to die show any injuries and physical effects would also seem to belie the 'cooked to death theory' ... But then, what do we know? ... an advanced engineering race may be able to refine all of the technology that we use in a raw state. ... either way, sounds like a horrible way for the poor hound to go. :(
... And the second example from 1966 , I thought not so clear cut that it was 'definitely' related to the sighting... though the sheriff [Toby Mathews] was pretty adamant that it was, so who am I to doubt. .. The thing that I couldn't get out of my mind when reading the story was that it was basically an add-on to the Portage County Incident albeit about 400 miles away and a couple of months apart, but then as you very well know 1966 was a bumper year all round for UFO's and it seems to have been the epoch of police/UFO sightings , specially in the American mid-west regions.

Cheers Buddy.
 

karl 12

Noble
And not wanting to sound like some pseudopsychologicalsceptic myself,

Hola mate, absolutely no worries and some fair points made there - you're not wrong in questioning the moral integrity involved and was aware about the antics of Bigelow 'buying up' abduction reports from Carpenter (and probably other researchers) - really do wonder why he was so keen to spend lots of money obtaining all those case files (although it turns out it was technically legal).

In the vid Carpenter also mentions the Roper Poll 'abduction' survey back in the early nineties and it turns out that was also funded by Bigelow - then there's all his shady non disclosure deals concerning FAA UFO reports and MUFON humanoid reports which inevitably keeps all this data out of the hands of public researchers (perhaps that's the point) - know quite a few folks who suspect Bigelow is an intelligence agency asset but suppose that's a subject for another thread (Mirageman has done some great research on the web).

What pisses me of is the FAA is publicly funded and MUFON is still asking for public donations yet both refuse to share all of its UFO data with the public.

As for what's actually going on with abductions think I jumped ship on the ETH many moons ago (still very open minded though) - think UFO and occupants have a real physical aspect and lots of analogues with Faerie lore and even legal DMT astral experiments so God knows what's going on.


Jerry stands by them , like this one that he personally investigated himself back in the mid-seventies ... The Sandra Larson incident
SANDY LARSON 1975 UFO ABDUCTION by UFO WARNING • A podcast on Anchor

Nice one mate - also have a lot of respect for Jerry and never came across the Sandy Larson case before - off to have a look.

Cheers!
 
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