Islam in the West

nivek

As Above So Below
It would seem obvious to me by now after this latest Islamic terrorist attack in London that Islam is completely incompatible with Western values and Western society...Where are these so-called moderate muslims speaking out against these Islamic terrorist attacks? Where are the imams and clerics speaking out against these horrible attacks? This is very telling. Why must the West continue to tolerate such arrogance and indifference?

Not every culture or religion is worthy of equal respect and it is too telling through actions not words that Islam is extremely barbaristic and medieval and not worthy to intermingle and reside within Western culture...The so-called moderates may cry and whine but where were they when these radical Islamic elements were killing in the name of their god and religion? Who is to say these terrorists are indeed radical? This could be the norm for this religion, showing it's true colours...
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
I think part of the problem is political correctness gone mad, as an Aussie, we take the piss out of everyone, including ourselves. You make a joke about a particular race...it's not a joke, its racism, make a joke about a particular religion, its not a joke, its religious intolerance. For me, racism is a matter of intent.If i mean no offense, then don't take any. I take everyone as they come, and work back from there. But you have to be able to call a spade a spade, most Islamic folks are just as peace loving as the rest of the community, but the sad fact is, that at this particular time in history, while most Islamic folks are not terrorists, most of the terror related crimes now are committed by Islamic extremists.
As nivek says, until we see some positive action from the peaceful Islamic community, outing extremists, actively hunting them from their own ranks, in my opinion it is just word games. If I knew someone plotting a terror attack, I wouldn't care if they were Islamic, Irish or the peoples front of Judea, I would oust them. That's how the Islamic community can gain respect and trust. Play by the rules, when in rome....
 
Good perspective, Dundee. Laughter is the best medicine and if you can't laugh at everything, why laugh at anything at all?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I think part of the problem is political correctness gone mad, as an Aussie, we take the piss out of everyone, including ourselves. You make a joke about a particular race...it's not a joke, its racism, make a joke about a particular religion, its not a joke, its religious intolerance. For me, racism is a matter of intent.If i mean no offense, then don't take any. I take everyone as they come, and work back from there. But you have to be able to call a spade a spade, most Islamic folks are just as peace loving as the rest of the community, but the sad fact is, that at this particular time in history, while most Islamic folks are not terrorists, most of the terror related crimes now are committed by Islamic extremists.
As nivek says, until we see some positive action from the peaceful Islamic community, outing extremists, actively hunting them from their own ranks, in my opinion it is just word games. If I knew someone plotting a terror attack, I wouldn't care if they were Islamic, Irish or the peoples front of Judea, I would oust them. That's how the Islamic community can gain respect and trust. Play by the rules, when in rome....

When I see groups of Islamic African males storming the borders of Spain, rushing through the gates, I don't see any play by the rules, they are going to change the dynamics of Europe in ways we cannot fathom in the future...Some European countries see this and cringe and beef up their borders only to be labeled and branded as discriminating racists or rightwing racists...

Yes I intentionally used the word racists 3 times in this post as an example of how overused and beaten that word has become...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
"One may say that evil does not exist for subjective man at all, that there exist only different conceptions of good. Nobody ever does anything deliberately in the interests of evil, for the sake of evil. Everybody acts in the interests of good, as he understands it. But everybody understands it in a different way. Consequently men drown, slay, and kill one another in the interests of good."
 

3FEL9

Islander
When I see groups of Islamic African males storming the borders of Spain, rushing through the gates, I don't see any play by the rules, they are going to change the dynamics of Europe in ways we cannot fathom in the future...Some European countries see this and cringe and beef up their borders only to be labeled and branded as discriminating racists or rightwing racists...

Yes I intentionally used the word racists 3 times in this post as an example of how overused and beaten that word has become...

True. Some of them make it all the way up here in .SE land and causing GREAT problems..
 

Ras

Honorable
True. Some of them make it all the way up here in .SE land and causing GREAT problems..

True, those kinds of people do cause problems. It's their attitude problem and they blame it on religion differences. Should not be nice on these kinds of people.. If here, they would deport them back..
 

3FEL9

Islander
True, those kinds of people do cause problems. It's their attitude problem and they blame it on religion differences. Should not be nice on these kinds of people.. If here, they would deport them back..

Some get deported. The problem is their countries dont want them back..
 

Captain Tinkle

Honorable
Quite honestly I think the World can do without all organised religion. I would bet that religion has been the cause of most Wars in many cases.

Certainly think when these aliens land on the White House lawn, it will prove all religion is wrong...
 

No Name

Novice
Quite honestly I think the World can do without all organised religion. I would bet that religion has been the cause of most Wars in many cases.

Certainly think when these aliens land on the White House lawn, it will prove all religion is wrong...

Shhh... Islam BAD, Jesus GOOD.
 

Ras

Honorable
Some get deported. The problem is their countries dont want them back..

Got the same problem here with the Rohingyas from myanmar, the country don't want them too, they are having some kind of a religion conflict. So far, I find the Rohingyas nice, they are very adaptable and friendly people.
 

Ras

Honorable
Quite honestly I think the World can do without all organised religion. I would bet that religion has been the cause of most Wars in many cases.

Imo i think the cause of most war are mainly because of the greed for power or fighting for peace / freedom.
 

3FEL9

Islander
Got the same problem here with the Rohingyas from myanmar, the country don't want them too, they are having some kind of a religion conflict. So far, I find the Rohingyas nice, they are very adaptable and friendly people.

Please send them here. We'll take them.. Enough of all *North & East * African bandits
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Europe is getting filled with bandits crossing their borders, mixed in with Merkel's migrants...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Merkel opened the floodgates, it's amazing so many Germans still support her...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Its their WW II legacy. The guilt... Tryin to make up for it.

Perhaps so, and taking the rest of Europe with them...
 
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