What Will The Afterlife Be Like?

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
random chance

So far the only quantifiable indicators we've had that anything 'is going on' is a very slight perturbation in random chance. Like affecting a random number generator. Good enough for me, Incredibly small perturbations are how they detect exoplanets. I think if we want to crunch numbers to solve this statistics is as useful as physics. Probably more so at this point because we first have to quantify whatever the hell it is we're studying.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
I've had this thought before, But, I don't know how to make it sound prettier. To some people, It may even sound Horrifying. I don't believe it's as horrifying as all that.

We become Frightened of the Idea of "Nothing" Because our brains are hotwired to constantly be doing something, The brain in fact seems to be incapable of really completely zoning out because even if you don't recall what you dreamed of what you were just thinking about, You were surely thinking about something.. But, True to my word, I've tried to conceptualize "Nothingness" And you know what? I don't think it would be so bad. Sure people tend to think in fractions of Horror when they think of simply not existing. But Let me explain something about Growing older.


In one's youth, They are afforded certain luxuries that the Older simply don't have, one of those luxuries is, A young person may have never experienced Losing someone they care about.
The older people, Like many of us, have lost loved ones and continue to lose loved ones. The only way we can cope with those losses is to rationalize them as Part of being alive, To accept that we will Lose people, and Continue to lose people until we ourselves, one day expire.

It's Grim and it's Dark and It's not pretty, But we have all experienced Loss that shook us to the core and changed us forever. Some Days you just don't want to get up out of bed and stop dreaming, What if Death is like a reprieve from Life? A mercy of sorts?


Let us be Frank here, How many more Times at our Age, Can We love people with our whole hearts and lose them to Death without going mad? We Fear Death Because We don't understand it, But What If it's A Good Thing, Like A Break From Work or Vacation from all the Chaos?
Yes.
Interestingly enough, I look at life as an adventure, and the unknown of just how long can I live in this world is intriguing.

As far as losing loved ones, nothing sucks more than that. It is enough to drive us mad, and cope by delusion that they are still with us in some fashion. But they aren't. Even if their spirit continues as an individual component, they have moved on to the after life and moved on from this world... Only their memories live within us now. But in that essence, their spirit is still a part of us.

Even if their Soul has simply been reabsorbed, it never really is destroyed. So there is some comfort at least in this.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Yes.
Interestingly enough, I look at life as an adventure, and the unknown of just how long can I live in this world is intriguing.

As far as losing loved ones, nothing sucks more than that. It is enough to drive us mad, and cope by delusion that they are still with us in some fashion. But they aren't. Even if their spirit continues as an individual component, they have moved on to the after life and moved on from this world... Only their memories live within us now. But in that essence, their spirit is still a part of us.

Even if their Soul has simply been reabsorbed, it never really is destroyed. So there is some comfort at least in this.
If Anything, To those Who steadfastly refuse to believe in the supernatural, "By the by, To not leave enough room open to believing that something we can't prove could exist, Is to close ones self off to anything they don't currently understand as fact. However. If nothing else, I believe we humans share ourselves with one another, It's primarily what we do, Hack, We are doing that Right now.

Even if emotional attachment allows what we received from others to live on in us. To whatever small extent, Part of that individual still lives on in others. Which makes them, Not entirely Dead. I could go into Quantum entanglement and Throw some theories out there that allude to the whole person being able to be Channeled Via Those Entanglements, But IT would be tantamount to Bias Theorisim.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Consider for the Moment, The Origin of life, Not Human life, But That Which Lives, The Origin of all living things.
Since the moment life began, It has grown and expanded and even infected other astronomical bodies. We contaminated the moon with tardigrades. Life may be through the cosmos from one end to another.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
If Anything, To those Who steadfastly refuse to believe in the supernatural, "By the by, To not leave enough room open to believing that something we can't prove could exist, Is to close ones self off to anything they don't currently understand as fact. However. If nothing else, I believe we humans share ourselves with one another, It's primarily what we do, Hack, We are doing that Right now.

Even if emotional attachment allows what we received from others to live on in us. To whatever small extent, Part of that individual still lives on in others. Which makes them, Not entirely Dead. I could go into Quantum entanglement and Throw some theories out there that allude to the whole person being able to be Channeled Via Those Entanglements, But IT would be tantamount to Bias Theorisim.
Humans are very powerful. I think we embody much of the best that the universe can offer. But we are also part of the chaos that is life.

Most supernatural stuff we experience is our own energy projecting the manifestation of desire. We are terrible at using it, but we do have the power to access vast stores of this universal energy.

We do better in groups, combining our focus on a common goal but we mostly lack ability to lose our individual biases in a group. Once we can mature to a level of mutual acceptance of a single outcome, we can begin to use this power to create a mutually unique and better society.

And when we can do that, we will be acceptable to those who remain mostly hidden from us currently.

But it is not supernatural. We just haven't matured enough to get it yet.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Humans are very powerful. I think we embody much of the best that the universe can offer. But we are also part of the chaos that is life.

Most supernatural stuff we experience is our own energy projecting the manifestation of desire. We are terrible at using it, but we do have the power to access vast stores of this universal energy.

We do better in groups, combining our focus on a common goal but we mostly lack ability to lose our individual biases in a group. Once we can mature to a level of mutual acceptance of a single outcome, we can begin to use this power to create a mutually unique and better society.

And when we can do that, we will be acceptable to those who remain mostly hidden from us currently.

But it is not supernatural. We just haven't matured enough to get it yet.
Every Culture, somewhat ties into Mysticism/Magic So, in ancient times There were high priests and priestesses, Faith Healers, In the middle ages we had clerics and Wizards who channeled otherworldly energy. In the modern-day, We have Psychics and Witches The whole gambit, What do these cultural cross-references tell us? It tells us that Throughout All Human history, man has believed in supernatural power. It crosses Epocs, Regions even, There is no culture, Where you can't find people who don't believe in some form of supernatural ability to some degree.

In Chinese culture, they Believed in Shaolin monks, Who possessed the powers of Gods and Fought using Styles that Nature Taught them. In Ancient India they Believed in Magic They Called their Magicians, Magi..

The picture I'm trying to paint here is, Why has a belief in the supernatural been instilled deep within human culture globally predating Recorded history?

It's because In rare cases large groups of people have experienced things. It can be the only answer. I believe the very reason people aren't more supernaturally gifted is, In our culture, To have such gifts would be a terrible burden.

A burden? But how, You might say... Consider this, How many times have you seen someone, OR been that someone who lashed out in anger at another person? Can you imagine how many innocent people would be harmed if people possessed supernatural abilities? Almost everyone, Everyone has enemies, And so to someone somewhere, Everyone is the bad guy deserving some terrible fate. I believe Our Spiritual connection to such Gifts was intentionally dulled or dimmed. Because Anyone can see that humans aren't responsible enough to wield power like that.

Just look at any kid pretending to be a power ranger. The first thing they do is look for bad guys to beat the hell out of.

Perhaps in ancient times, Man did possess supernatural abilities, When there were fewer people and those people had to fight every day to survive. But in modern times. People would weaponize such gifts. Anyone can say to themselves, I wouldn't be like that. And the next thing you know, That person is ten feet away from his enemy who he is convinced deserves Justice. No one is fit to wield such power. If some deity was handing out Magic power, Id Run.. Because the first thing Id do is hurt me or someone else. I know this for a fact..
 
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Kchoo

At Peace.
Every Culture, somewhat ties into Mysticism/Magic So, in ancient times There were high priests and priestesses, Faith Healers, In the middle ages we had clerics and Wizards who channeled otherworldly energy. In the modern-day, We have Psychics and Witches The whole gambit, What do these cultural cross-references tell us? It tells us that Throughout All Human history, man has believed in supernatural power. It crosses Epocs, Regions even, There is no culture, Where you can't find people who don't believe in some form of supernatural ability to some degree.

In Chinese culture, they Believed in Shaolin monks, Who possessed the powers of Gods and Fought using Styles that Nature Taught them. In Ancient India they Believed in Magic They Called their Magicians, Magi..

The picture I'm trying to paint here is, Why has a belief in the supernatural been instilled deep within human culture globally predating Recorded history?

It's because In rare cases large groups of people have experienced things. It can be the only answer. I believe the very reason people aren't more supernaturally gifted is, In our culture, To have such gifts would be a terrible burden.

A burden? But how, You might say... Consider this, How many times have you seen someone, OR been that someone who lashed out in anger at another person? Can you imagine how many innocent people would be harmed if people possessed supernatural abilities? Almost everyone, Everyone has enemies, And so to someone somewhere, Everyone is the bad guy deserving some terrible fate. I believe Our Spiritual connection to such Gifts was intentionally dulled or dimmed. Because Anyone can see that humans aren't responsible enough to wield power like that.

Just look at any kid pretending to be a power ranger. The first thing they do is look for bad guys to beat the hell out of.

Perhaps in ancient times, Man did possess supernatural abilities, When there were fewer people and those people had to fight every day to survive. But in modern times. People would weaponize such gifts. Anyone can say to themselves, I wouldn't be like that. And the next thing you know, That person is ten feet away from his enemy who he is convinced deserves Justice. No one is fit to wield such power. If some deity was handing out Magic power, Id Run.. Because the first thing Id do is hurt me or someone else. I know this for a fact..

I agree we are not ready, but nothing is beyond us or above us that we do not already have. It is only our selfish individualized nature that limits us.

Until we can look beyond our own personal desires in favor of a collective conciousness, we deserve to suffer in our hatred toward each other.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I agree we are not ready, but nothing is beyond us or above us that we do not already have. It is only our selfish individualized nature that limits us.

Until we can look beyond our own personal desires in favor of a collective conciousness, we deserve to suffer in our hatred toward each other.
I don't know how many people remember my History, I've told it before, But, I'm really not the same person I used to be. I'm no longer some guy trying to be the best of the best or some youtube guy trying to make it to the top. I'm just some guy in a group of other guys... So, I don't know who Would remember My Friend Quinton Who Overdosed at my home and later died. He was My best friend in all the world and I didn't recognize his depression. , I knew he was depressed, But, I've been through a whole lot and, I just assumed He would make it through his depression.

But, I've seen him several times Since his Death. I never speak about it because most people wouldn't believe it and those who did would want more answers than I have to give...

But, Three times He came to Visit me. For the record I was only awake for one of those, The other Two were in dreams. And Yes, I'm aware I have A tendency to capitalize random Words. It's A Bad Habit That I started long ago and can't seem to break.

The First Time, I was Wide awake, This was Shortly after his passing. I Didn't see him, But, I felt his presence Like he was there with me. It started When I had this Feeling, Like His hand patted me on the back, And I say His Hand and Not A Hand because Somehow I instantly knew It was him. It was emotional. Like I could feel his soul. The other two were in Dreams, But, They were still impactful because These Dreams weren't like normal Dreams, They Felt like an interruption to a Dream where I then In Full cognition got to speak to him...


Some can believe it, Others can believe what they will. But Even if it was just grief, and even if it was all in my head, I'd rather live in a world where such things are possible. then to exist in a world believing they aren't.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
You probably knew this, But Did you know That's Almost entirely the philosophy of Buddha.
You know, that does not surprise me, but, I know very little about Buddah, other than, he was revered, and, awake. And that he really didn't believe in a diety, but did believe in supernatural guides.

Well, I do not think 'supernatural' is really a thing, as much as it is really just 'undiscovered talent'. A baby has legs at birth, but can't use them to walk yet, just as we have all the parts we need, and still must grow into them.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
So, while God may not be a guy in a white robe that looks just like us. God does exist. But it is not God as in some dude with all power... no...

Rather , God is everything. And everything is a part of God.
Nothing supernatural. Nothing mystic or magic. It just IS.
Alpha, Omega, The Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit... it is as all one thing...

The great I AM!
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

and so on and so forth. ibid
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

and so on and so forth. ibid

Somehow these words remain timeless.
Always having value in the truth.
Like poerty that describes a flower...
Everyone seems to reference back with it weather they believe in a diety, or not.
:Thumbsup:
 

nivek

As Above So Below
To me they are words reflecting conditioning, they ring truth and feel good because they were programmed at a young age, that's why they seem to remain timeless...One must see things like this for what it is and break through such conditioning to find truth...

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nivek

As Above So Below
but did believe in supernatural guides.

For Buddha as well as for many others, it was likely beyond belief, it is a reality to them...There's always an exchange with any meet and greet, so of course there is a certain degree of influence one way or another...The appearances from the other side likely would reflect what Buddha expected to see, for the sake of appearances, but for another reason...Its important to point this out because the way this all that takes place provides the exact proper medium to transfer certain understanding which otherwise would not be available...Liken it in a crude way to using the correct gauge of wire in order to transport the desired electrical current...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Why has a belief in the supernatural been instilled deep within human culture globally predating Recorded history?

For many people throughout history and now. living in our current time period, the existence of supernatural beings and places they reside is beyond the level of belief, it's a reality in their lives and those who share those experiences publicly or privately keep that belief alive through the centuries...

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Kchoo

At Peace.
We already know and accept that we are much more than politics, capitalism, marxism, or cryptocurrency.

We now see past living a life of shadows, echos, or faint distant whispers of what is real. We are begining to accept what is in front of us and are ready to receive. And we will not be oppressed, depressed or fooled by false promises from poisoned idols.

We have been primed and taught and poked and prodded, and we are finally starting to awaken to expand beyond the past lies and to discern and proactively create our own progress based on what works from a logical and practical perspective.

I know this may not make sense the first time you read it. So just let it sink in a while...
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Who among us to themselves hasn't had personal experiences that lead them to believe or question belief? So then, Each of us has had our experiences. Aren't we convinced within ourselves that those experiences were true? What is the Truth? I then question, What Is Truth if we already know it within ourselves.

I believe, What people truly seek universally, Is a less worthy prize, Validation. What Worth does Validation hold to another, If one is already convinced of his own truth?
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Many if not most ancient cultures have some sort of Great Flood myth. Usually involves some fertile respite and a very few people left to start things over again. Call it what you will but we can surmise that something of magnitude happened in antiquity, the details lost over time. Of necessity real history is a lossy format, the real feel and taste is extremely perishable. Having a belief in Something Else, that there is something beyond corporeal existence is also an extremely common theme. So is this biology and sociology that collectively works to our advantage somehow or myth with some actual basis in fact?

There are non-Western cultures that readily accept life after death, in fact embrace it. There are accounts of bodies being marked in certain ways that reappear in children. Sometimes they bear scars from grievous mortal wounds, past illness, or are deliberately marked by relatives near or shortly after physical death. Descriptions of what happens 'in between' are not unheard of and a very few have been well documented. Some bear remnants of past personalities and possess detailed knowledge of them for otherwise inexplicable reasons.

Sounds to me like a natural process that we are aware of and can describe that 'modern empirical science' is having a hard time getting it's head around. Typically, it's always late to the party. I've spent a bit of time looking for veridical evidence without success, only got tantalizing synchronicities.

God, what would anyone do if they actually received this proof ?

I've mentioned this privately but may as well drop it here. My best friend passed last year quickly and badly. He lived with us a while before he went into a facility. We created a secret message - a simple phrase that could easily be represented in an image. We signed it, mailed it to myself so it's post marked and it's been in a commercial safe that only I have access to since February 2021. Put some effort into finding the 'right person' to help with this and can say it was all very illuminating but not overly helpful.

The part I never considered is what the hell would I do if I actually GOT the damned message? When you think about it, isn't that a bit of a reality-worldview-rattler ? Like my dog finally catching the UPS truck, now what?
I believe that we continue to exist in some form but am wondering if it would be unhealthy if we actually could communicate. If someone were to invent for example, a 'radio transmitter for talking to God' to paraphrase Rene Belloq, would it really be a good idea?
 
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