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I had forgotten about that guy, and only recalled the ugly parts when they were mentioned in this thread. Like too many others, he enjoyed a good reputation until the nasty parts came to light. Billy Meier fooled a lot of people before those ridiculous dinosaur photos showed up, and the Golddiggers episode blossomed. It was downhill from there.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Yes HL, you are quite right, I don't really know what I was thinking about when I said Stevens' integrity wasn't in jeopardy by the post death photo mix up. When of course the guy's integrity should always be trashed!! … I had not really thought about the guy's shady past … with his endorsement of the Meier pictures. It had totally slipped my mind because all that sprung to mind when asked was that by the time of his demise he was the proud owner of the worlds largest collection of UFO photos [including some of the best]. And even more alarming is that it had also slipped my mind that Wendelle Stevens also served seven years in Douglas state prison Arizona for child molestation. yuck!!!! so apart from the photo collection, imho the guy should never have been born, and is a real stain on the ufological genre.
I offer no excuses for the lapse in character assessment and promise to consider my answers a little more before giving off-the-cuff responses. :oops:

Cheers Buddy.

Oh, so Wendelle Stevens is a good photo source but not a good data source?
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Is it real?

The fact it had travelled perhaps a few light years...I am not impressed with it's fasteners? I can weld better than that.

The link in the post indicates that it had no internals and was just a shell movie prop.

The cockpit seats were upholstered in coral Leatherette, and two electrical cords dangled to the wooden flooring.
It was the prop for a low budget documentary that was abandoned after filming.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Here's a sighting I had not heard of before, is this the real thing, genuine ufo?...

 

Gambeir

Celestial
Here's a sighting I had not heard of before, is this the real thing, genuine ufo?...



It is listed on page 10 in a book by Richard Hall of Rich Planet.
RICHPLANET TV - Exposing Media Lies
The UFO Evidence

Story here
Blue Blurry Lines: UFO Contact: April 1, 1967 from Loco, TX

Below Aquí estoy yo: OVNI fotografiado en Loco (Texas)
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Looks exactly like a Submarine Pressure Hull.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
Here's a sighting I had not heard of before, is this the real thing, genuine ufo?...


The one problem I have with this photo is that the caption states this object is 300 feet above ground. That would be the length of a football field and that object looks like it is hovering just above land level.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
The one problem I have with this photo is that the caption states this object is 300 feet above ground. That would be the length of a football field and that object looks like it is hovering just above land level.

Probably whoever made that quote misstated it and it was supposed to be the object was about 300 feet long. That would make a lot more sense. Just a heads up on this kind of common error and it's potential use's, because on sites like youtube it's been claimed by some in the know with computers that automatic programs can tag (target) persons where a targeting program then rearranges words and letters to make it appear the writer is ignorant. Just something to be aware of and it may be that considering the complicity of the media that this kind of intentional messing up statements may have been developed from observations of your type where confusion creates doubt. Something to consider I think.

The object does look like submarine pressure hull. Sub's have two hulls. This would be the interior pressure hull. The outer hull is what we see and think of when submarine comes to mind.
This image is inline with what has been claimed of using submarine pressure hulls.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
The one problem I have with this photo is that the caption states this object is 300 feet above ground. That would be the length of a football field and that object looks like it is hovering just above land level.

It looks like its closer to the camera than the far tree line...….looks to be about 30 or 40 feet off the ground.
 

michael59

Celestial
It looks like a crayola crayon to me.

How come the copy of the picture in the tweet is so clean, defined and clear compared to the original?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
How come the copy of the picture in the tweet is so clean, defined and clear compared to the original?

The image above looks like a newspaper clipping, not really the original...

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Gambeir

Celestial
Supposedly the Nazi's created the "ANDROMEDA DEVICE" which was a modified pressure hull taken from an Unterseeboot. U-boat is a shortening the word and is colloquially known as specifically a German Submarine from WWII, therefore a Nazi Submarine. The picture does not seem to

The crew lives inside the pressure hull. Seen below as the cylindrical pressure hull. The outer hull is the streamlining hull and holds the water ballast, fuel, and other odds and ends that don't need to be protected from the crushing pressures of the depths of the oceans.
Introduction to Submarine Design
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Disc Aircraft of The Third Reich
ANDROMEDA-GERÄT«, das 139m lange
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Larger image of the above at the link below.
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/vz-2/vril01_02a.gif

The thing with all this is that the Nazi Andromeda was probably a paper project, and that later on the paper project was realized for the beauty of the design. Meaning that a submarine pressure hull could be constructed in an ordinary ship yard without arousing suspicion, then it could be shipped by barge ostensibly under the guise it was being sent to say another yard for final work, or for any number of other easily contrived reasons.

Once at sea and out of sight it could picked up and taken to a space station for finishing, or maybe even have all the necessary equipment on board already once more ostensibly made for other purposes, or labeled as being something it isn't, meaning the antigravity power packages. At any rate, if the photo is real then it's a very good chance that what we are seeing is a submarine pressure hull.
 

1963

Noble
Unfortunately, the source of this picture of a cylindrical UFO [that as I said before does put me in mind of what i'd expect a photo of a crayon dangling from a fine fishing line in front of the camera would look like] is part of a much bigger deception aka UFO hoax by a prolific [for a while] 'tall-tale-teller' named Carroll Watts. …. Well that's my opinion anyway. :Whistle: … The stories that he came out with were imo pure fantasy, and not very potent or original at that!
The 1967 close encounters of Carroll Watts
I find his tales almost childlike at present, but I assume that back then fifty years ago without much of the knowledge that we enjoy today , told with a straight poker face he might have been a bit more believable ? … especially with the slight input of his wife and the "photographic evidence" that he so conveniently provided.
…. well that's probably enough said from me as it is of course only my opinion, and being one who has form in doubting most [if not all] of the serial-contactee claims that abound the Ufological branches of the paranormal genre , i'll end up being branded as some kind of Phil Klass type debunker by my forum peers! lol.
… but come on, "It asked me if I would be willing to submit to a rigorous physical examination!" why? " because we are taking a survey".or "We Can Come And Go As We Please And No One Can Stop Us!” not to mention that "they come from the planet that we call Mars”. … all of which smacks to me of pure 1950's/60's syfy T.V and movies.

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??…. Yep!... it's a crayon. :p

Cheers.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Unfortunately, the source of this picture of a cylindrical UFO [that as I said before does put me in mind of what i'd expect a photo of a crayon dangling from a fine fishing line in front of the camera would look like] is part of a much bigger deception aka UFO hoax by a prolific [for a while] 'tall-tale-teller' named Carroll Watts. …. Well that's my opinion anyway. :Whistle: … The stories that he came out with were imo pure fantasy, and not very potent or original at that!
The 1967 close encounters of Carroll Watts
I find his tales almost childlike at present, but I assume that back then fifty years ago without much of the knowledge that we enjoy today , told with a straight poker face he might have been a bit more believable ? … especially with the slight input of his wife and the "photographic evidence" that he so conveniently provided.
…. well that's probably enough said from me as it is of course only my opinion, and being one who has form in doubting most [if not all] of the serial-contactee claims that abound the Ufological branches of the paranormal genre , i'll end up being branded as some kind of Phil Klass type debunker by my forum peers! lol.
… but come on, "It asked me if I would be willing to submit to a rigorous physical examination!" why? " because we are taking a survey".or "We Can Come And Go As We Please And No One Can Stop Us!” not to mention that "they come from the planet that we call Mars”. … all of which smacks to me of pure 1950's/60's syfy T.V and movies.

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??…. Yep!... it's a crayon. :p

Cheers.

Hello 1963, hope you're doing well, great post and yeah a spoiler too haha, I thought we had a good snapshot here, I've been doing a little more reading on this Watts fellow, even found a confession from him in regards to this...



Sigh, too many hoaxes and fakes for a moment of fame or fortune, ugh, but at least we know there are some genuine photos of ufos around...

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Gambeir

Celestial

Laugh out loud...We have the CIA for a reason right?

Reminds me of how quickly Socorro Police Officer Lonnie Zamora changed his tune after being visted by men in dark suits, switching his account from one involving regular dudes in AF Jump Suits to becoming one where aliens were seen by him. Not unlike how another member of the sunken Alien Hub quickly rebuked his own video taken of a black tetrahedron over Mt. Baldy in CA, one of the best video's ever taken of that vehicle, scrubbed from Gro0vetube after just 3 days.

So easily fooled it's pathetic: How can a man living in 1967 have any knowledge of Nazi Anti-Gravity Space Ships when those plans were nowhere to be found in any public document? Have any of you any idea what information was like in 1967? If someone can show me some underground UFO magazine or newsletter, which can be cross verified, and which shows that this dude might have drawn his so-called fakery from, well then the judgement of this all being fake would hold weight.

So maybe one of you knows or has some information that can show there was a magazine which depicted the Nazi Adromenda, otherwise I think the claim of proving it was fake has a repulsive smell about it. Silly and gullible, wake up and smell the coffee, this is obviously real and it just happend that because he was an idiot known for clowning he also made an ideal subject for a disinformation program. It's all so transparent a child could put it together.
Lol` snort....: )

Seems to be a repeating theme huh? Sort of like a warning to the others? Where is my armband anyways?
"Watts ended his life as a broken man. He believed all his life that his problems stemmed from his UFO encounter."
 
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Gambeir

Celestial
Unfortunately, the source of this picture of a cylindrical UFO [that as I said before does put me in mind of what i'd expect a photo of a crayon dangling from a fine fishing line in front of the camera would look like] is part of a much bigger deception aka UFO hoax by a prolific [for a while] 'tall-tale-teller' named Carroll Watts. …. Well that's my opinion anyway. :Whistle: … The stories that he came out with were imo pure fantasy, and not very potent or original at that!
The 1967 close encounters of Carroll Watts
I find his tales almost childlike at present, but I assume that back then fifty years ago without much of the knowledge that we enjoy today , told with a straight poker face he might have been a bit more believable ? … especially with the slight input of his wife and the "photographic evidence" that he so conveniently provided.
…. well that's probably enough said from me as it is of course only my opinion, and being one who has form in doubting most [if not all] of the serial-contactee claims that abound the Ufological branches of the paranormal genre , i'll end up being branded as some kind of Phil Klass type debunker by my forum peers! lol.
… but come on, "It asked me if I would be willing to submit to a rigorous physical examination!" why? " because we are taking a survey".or "We Can Come And Go As We Please And No One Can Stop Us!” not to mention that "they come from the planet that we call Mars”. … all of which smacks to me of pure 1950's/60's syfy T.V and movies.

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??…. Yep!... it's a crayon. :p

Cheers.

Yes, but while your observation is spot on it's also complete conjecture and based only your own perceptions and frankly is insultingly stupendously simple minded. Whereas if you apply retroductive logic using the known history of military deep black operations then every bit of the entire story is believeable. It becomes even more believable when you find the subsequent history which followed this guy. Evidently you don't have any significant knowledge of how military black opps deal with those they want to silence.

In Argentina, leading up to the Falklands War, the Military Junta murdered tens of thousands to remain in power, leaving over 35 thousand missing persons and whom still remain missing. Many abducted, beaten, tortured, then tied and flown out over the ocean and pushed out, their bodies washing up on the shores. As a warning to the others. Who was helping them, who advised this Military Junta, who do you think? What, the Japanse or the Russian's?
https://www.history.com/news/mothers-plaza-de-mayo-disappeared-children-dirty-war-argentina

This is the way Nazi's deal with people. It's what happened to this guy. All the circumstantial evidence subsequent to his photo and fame virtually proves that the image is real. It's clearly not an alien ship so it's got to be someone elses.

"A series of bizarre unexplained UFO events led to a false hoax confession from the beleagured witness. Authorities fail to mention that the American citizen was beaten up, shot at, threatened, harassed, ridiculed and robbed of key physical evidence. The case rarely surfaces during UFO discussions due to the false hoax claim. Hoax claims in paranormal instances later prove to be the only true hoaxes. That is the truth in this instance."
 
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Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Unfortunately, the source of this picture of a cylindrical UFO [that as I said before does put me in mind of what i'd expect a photo of a crayon dangling from a fine fishing line in front of the camera would look like] is part of a much bigger deception aka UFO hoax by a prolific [for a while] 'tall-tale-teller' named Carroll Watts. …. Well that's my opinion anyway. :Whistle: … The stories that he came out with were imo pure fantasy, and not very potent or original at that!
The 1967 close encounters of Carroll Watts
I find his tales almost childlike at present, but I assume that back then fifty years ago without much of the knowledge that we enjoy today , told with a straight poker face he might have been a bit more believable ? … especially with the slight input of his wife and the "photographic evidence" that he so conveniently provided.
…. well that's probably enough said from me as it is of course only my opinion, and being one who has form in doubting most [if not all] of the serial-contactee claims that abound the Ufological branches of the paranormal genre , i'll end up being branded as some kind of Phil Klass type debunker by my forum peers! lol.
… but come on, "It asked me if I would be willing to submit to a rigorous physical examination!" why? " because we are taking a survey".or "We Can Come And Go As We Please And No One Can Stop Us!” not to mention that "they come from the planet that we call Mars”. … all of which smacks to me of pure 1950's/60's syfy T.V and movies.

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??…. Yep!... it's a crayon. :p

Cheers.

Thanks......great information......you always have great details.
 
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