How is The Coronavirus affecting your life?

nivek

nivek

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dr wu said:
No one I knew had any problems except for the ones who didn't or were unable to receive the polio vaccine.
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Have you read the history of the polio vaccine from the 50s you were some of the fortunate ones that didn't get extremely ill...

Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be 'colossally stupid'

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On April 12, 1955 the government announced the first vaccine to protect kids against polio. Within days, labs had made thousands of lots of the vaccine. Batches made by one company, Cutter Labs, accidentally contained live polio virus and it caused an outbreak. More than 200,000 children got the polio vaccine, but within days the government had to abandon the program.

"Forty thousand kids got polio. Some had low levels, a couple hundred were left with paralysis, and about 10 died," said Dr. Howard Markel, a pediatrician, distinguished professor, and director of the Center for the History of Medicine at the University of Michigan. The government suspended the vaccination program until it could determine what went wrong.

Even after thousands of kids got sick from the first polio vaccine in 1955, when the program restarted, parents made sure their children got vaccinated. They had clear memories of epidemics that paralyzed between 13,000 and 20,000 children every year. Some were so profoundly paralyzed that they could not even breathe easily on their own, and relied on machines called iron lungs to help them breathe.

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nivek

nivek

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HAL9000 said:
Well, my wife just complains of a general 'feeling clogged up'. Nothing nasty. She is her usual obnoxious self otherwise.
Glad we bot are vaccinated.
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Hope she gets well soon, does she know where she got infected?...

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nivek

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AD1184 said:
Given a choice, and given that you had never previously been infected with SARS-CoV-2, would you rather be infected before being vaccinated, or after being vaccinated? I would definitely go with the latter.
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Definitely the latter as long as we have a choice of vaccines, Johnson & Johnson being my first choice and AstraZeneca second...Getting infected with Covid without vaccination would likely be horrible at my age if I was unvaccinated and with a risk of long covid, that is not a desired outcome I want to experience...

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JahaRa

JahaRa

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dr wu said:
Regarding the original thread question ,as I said before, other than causing some problems with my office and going to certain places , etc it hasn't affected us that much. No one suffered any side effects from covid or the vaccine and everyone was able to work eventually ,etc. No one in my family suffered any major hardship.
Sadly it did cause economic hardship to many and of course sickness and death to many.

To me what is a bit strange is the vaccine hesitations this time around in 2020 and 2021. I grew up with polio and smallpox vaccines in the mid 50's and all the others. I actually had measles , mumps, and chicken pox. Later of course all kids (most) were vaccinated for these diseases. No one I knew had any problems except for the ones who didn't or were unable to receive the polio vaccine. No one complained or questioned the reasons for the vaccines as far as I knew..but I was a kid.
Maybe these were better vaccines in the past....I have no idea not being an infectious disease expert but no one I know this time around had any problems either. Nothing is perfect . No medicne is 100% effective and free of any and all side effects and no doubt some had some issues. But I don't recall people being anti medicine back then nor did my parents ever talk about any protests or large sections of people bad mouthing the vaccines.

Why is this such an issue now? What has changed? Is this about rushing the vaccine process or is there something else going on with those who are against the vaccine? What has changed in the minds of people in 65 years or so? :huh8:
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In the 50's & 60's people were taught that doctors were "god". I remember as a kid not being taken to the doctor for a virus because there was nothing the doctor could do and it was expensive, not like now, but for my family at that time it was. We got polio vaccine at school. We got a tetanus shot if we "stepped on a rusty nail", got a wound while walking barefoot in the horse pasture or some other iffy wound. We all had 2 versions of measles, mumps, chicken pox and the "Hong Kong" flu. I don't think anyone was anti-vaccine until the late 80's or at least I never noticed until then. We are living in a different society than the one we grew up in.
 
JahaRa

JahaRa

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As for the question of the OP. I may have answered it before but things have changed. Early on my brother-in-law was hospitalized and when he got to go home he recovered fairly well. Now 19 months later he was in the hospital again. My sister and their daughter also had Covid19 but recovered ok. My brother in law got to go home Sunday but is on oxygen. The xray of his lungs was bad and had the doctors worried but they are over run with patients so he was discharged (they wanted to send him home sooner but luckily didn't).

Nothing else has changed much except that we are still avoiding crowds, wearing masks and my daughter still works from home. My brother was laid off last year when everything shut down but he finally got to go back to work and now he is getting treatment for chemo and trying to work. That part isn't due to the virus, just what has happened to him. No one else in my family has tested positive but last year we were not able to visit my dad in the nursing home and he passed in October. I don't think anything should go back to "normal" yet (what ever normal is) and I don't think it will ever be like it was in 2019.
 
nivek

nivek

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No one in my immediate family have been sick with Covid since the pandemic started, so far, however one of my aunts got severely ill with Covid before the vaccinations were available to her, but she recovered, and one of my uncles died because of covid before the vaccines were available...Currently everyone in my immediate family have been vaccinated including myself and most of the extended family residing in various States have also been vaccinated...An aunt and uncle in Kentucky haven't been vaccinated yet, but because of logistics and a bit of laziness or procrastination...They are fairly self-sufficient and don't go out much and are off by themselves in a country rural area...I think later this month someone is taking them to the doctor to get their shots...

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pigfarmer

pigfarmer

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The #s on this area of hospitalizations have declined, less than 20 now.

When I wear a mask at work I'd estimate to be the the 1 out of every 20 people or so wearing one. Still have the nose-pokers and chin-diaper people which continue to amaze me. I just disconnected my opinions and wear the thing without complaint when I have to, being irritated doesn't help. Several people have just quit and walked out over it. From what I see I can't imagine it's doing much, voluntary compliance isn't getting much traction. Even the state mandate didn't get 100% compliance but it was significantly better than what's going on now. What I see now is like using a condom with a tear in it. If it's that bad mandate it again - but with all the different color zones they came up with for various conditions I don't think this area is any particular hot spot again.

Spent some time talking with a friend yesterday at the kitchen table drinking a few beers. We've all had our shots but right now he's in a local urgent care because his wife is sick. Could be the variant, we'll see in a while if she gets it or if we do as a result.
 
nivek

nivek

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pigfarmer said:
Could be the variant, we'll see in a while if she gets it or if we do as a result.
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I'm inclined to reason that, since you've been sick with Covid already before you were vaccinated and now you have had both shots for a while now, that you likely won't get sick from Covid again...On the outside chance you do I think it would be very mild, I know it's only assumptions, but its positive ones lol...

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nivek

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Just found out my 22yo niece is sick with Covid...Apparently she did not get vaccinated yet, she lives with her mom in Florida, her mom is divorced from my brother, he lives in North Carolina...She's not been hospitalized but I'm not sure how sick she is, her mom isn't telling us much...

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Spaceman spiff

Spaceman spiff

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nivek said:
Just found out my 22yo niece is sick with Covid...Apparently she did not get vaccinated yet, she lives with her mom in Florida, her mom is divorced from my brother, he lives in North Carolina...She's not been hospitalized but I'm not sure how sick she is, her mom isn't telling us much...

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So sorry to hear that. I hope the best for her, luckily her young age should do a lot to mitigate any possible serious illness. My dad got the alpha in march, but it was luckily mild. He's gotten the immunity and now the first vaccine.

I am getting my second dose in a week.
 
nivek

nivek

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My niece is doing okay, she has mild symptoms we've finally heard, she's staying isolated at home until this illness passes...

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JahaRa

JahaRa

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My brother-in-law has been out of the hospital over a week and he has quit using the oxygen he got sent home with. He is on the mend. The rest of his family have recovered completely now.
 
HAL9000

HAL9000

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JahaRa said:
My brother-in-law has been out of the hospital over a week and he has quit using the oxygen he got sent home with. He is on the mend. The rest of his family have recovered completely now.
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Good to read that.

My wife has completed the ten day isolation. Tested negative and went out today shopping.
 
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