The Bible: True, False, Or Irrelevant?

pepe

Celestial
I wouldn't take anything personally in these realms as equality in terms of having the right is eventually found here. See what that does though yeah. Stagnates because no one gets the edge.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I wouldn't take anything personally in these realms as equality in terms of having the right is eventually found here. See what that does though yeah. Stagnates because no one gets the edge.
Nah I'll be fine. There is no person at fault here. I kept saying people can believe what they want and I stand by that. It's just wow you know. Two solid days of edgy debating like that. I can't do that kind of stuff. I mean I can say That I wasn't getting emotional. But clearly, I'm just human. Anyone would be after so long debating anything.

I really did get sick and throw up though, But that may just be Helth/blood pressure. it's not like that was ever intended. The only real problem here. Is, It means so much to me. I value God And Christianity. I feel the urge to defend it. I need a break. And I simply can not do these kinds of debates anymore. I'm not in great health, to begin with. I just can't handle them. Mentally I can perhaps debate with the best of them. Physically. I'm just not in good health. I can't handle the stresses that come with it. I am not taking a break for spite. I'm taking it for health. I don't think anyone should develop a migraine and get sick from debating online. So clearly the issue is my physical health. Nothing more.
 

pepe

Celestial
The problem is a belief of a different sort as I see it. Every one has a take on this subject with out exception and I only see three types, do, don't and not sure. Is actually impossible to not have an opinion and I see the terms " it's my belief or I'm of the opinion" as one the same with so much difference in depth that it becomes a miss understanding from all sides. I'm of the opinion we are going to become something very important. An interstellar organism with the knowledge for further creation. I think nothing special of myself but view our collective mutation as key. If nothing is pulling the strings then I guess it's down to us to get there and pull them ourselves. Pandora's box.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
But I will defend God. If I can.

You mean defend your God, if you haven't noticed there seems to be many Gods who have influence in this world, imagined or not...
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
You mean defend your God, if you haven't noticed there seems to be many Gods who have influence in this world, imagined or not...
Yes. I know. I've even mentioned in the scriptures I follow it never says that the God I serve is the only God.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Yes. I know. I've even mentioned in the scriptures I follow it never says that the God I serve is the only God.

Well not just Christian Gods either but Hindus have many Gods they revere, Muslims claim a different God, then there's all these various spirits and gods of the native Americans and Africans, the northern tribes have their own gods, it's quite a team of gods we have for this world alone...
 

pepe

Celestial
Each and any of the religions can be part of evolution and probably entered our existence when we became self aware. Having different religions and not there being religion I see as the wrinkle. Is our continuing struggle over being right of faith a deliberate factor to evolution, I think so. The things we strive for will end our development but the striving never ends and that's what keeps us alive. If we become peaceful and harmonious then it stops and would demand from nature an interjection.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I don't have a problem with the prayer either in the current form or how Francis would like it to read. I'll continue to say it the way I always have, and in King James English too. Others can do what feels right to them.
 

Visenya

Honorable
Yes. I know. I've even mentioned in the scriptures I follow it never says that the God I serve is the only God.

Then what makes your god so special? Why should his name be praised whilst the others forgotten in time? Judging from your holy book, "God" seems like an egotistical and manipulative maniac.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Then what makes your god so special? Why should his name be praised whilst the others forgotten in time? Judging from your holy book, "God" seems like an egotistical and manipulative maniac.
Because it's my God, I'll let people know when it's okay for them to choose what has value to me...

Have people really became so shallow that they can't just be nice to other people?
 

August

Metanoia
I like a God that's more female in character , one that's not so like mannish and aggressive . This is how they portray God the Father ( see below) . Then you have his son who acts like a wuss and is the namby pamby 'lamb of God'. I mean holy smokes is this all for real is this what jillions of people worship ?
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Seriously Mr meek and mild gets nailed to a tree and his father up there does nothing (?) , this is the same God that kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden and left them to it, blatted Sodom and Gommorah , flooded the world and killed everyone but Noah and the Elephants , leaves everyone guessing as to when he is coming back to finish us all off with fire and brimstone , you can count me out .
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I like a God that's more female in character , one that's not so like mannish and aggressive . This is how they portray God the Father ( see below) . Then you have his son who acts like a wuss and is the namby pamby 'lamb of God'. I mean holy smokes is this all for real is this what jillions of people worship ?
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Seriously Mr meek and mild gets nailed to a tree and his father up there does nothing (?) , this is the same God that kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden and left them to it, blatted Sodom and Gommorah , flooded the world and killed everyone but Noah and the Elephants , leaves everyone guessing as to when he is coming back to finish us all off with fire and brimstone , you can count me out .

People are allowed to make up their own minds about what they like and what they don't like. My thing is. people mistake being a Christin as some sort of weakness and then some people attack. not you, It's just how the internet works.

I've been thinking, Times online are changing, it seems like everyone is more aggressive these days.

I've been so nice to people for so long... I feel like maybe I don't always have to be nice. I've spent a lot of time studying and I just feel like my opinions have depth is all. That's why I defend them. I place a lot of stock into my own beliefs.


But doesn't everyone?
 

Athena ashford

Honorable
I guess father /god /creator will be like:

Believe in me or don't,
My existence is based on your beliefs,
I exist with or without you,
Believe in humanity ,
Show mercy ,
Stop being cattle,
Be human ,
Be humane.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I guess father /god /creator will be like:

Believe in me or don't,
My existence is based on your beliefs,
I exist with or without you,
Believe in humanity ,
Show mercy ,
Stop being cattle,
Be human ,
Be humane.
I've been doing a lot of thinking. I do think of things in a scientific nature sometimes.

What if God. Is many different beings. For instance. Consider our universe as if it is a small box. Outside this box that is our universe, is another plane of existence. from this plane. Many individuals from there. would be able to observe the box. our universe and interact with our space, just as a God would. like a higher dimension or something. It could explain why there seem to be so many different examples of Gods in history? ... Because outside of our universe. are a different plane of existence and the beings there would be some form of higher dimensional entities?
 

Athena ashford

Honorable
I've been doing a lot of thinking. I do think of things in a scientific nature sometimes.

What if God. Is many different beings. For instance. Consider our universe as if it is a small box. Outside this box that is our universe, is another plane of existence. from this plane. Many individuals from there. would be able to observe the box. our universe and interact with our space, just as a God would. like a higher dimension or something. It could explain why there seem to be so many different examples of Gods in history? ... Because outside of our universe. are a different plane of existence and the beings there would be some form of higher dimensional entities?

That might be the case as there are hell lots of God/s around here.
It's like population of a country or something.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Or maybe there is nothing at all.....
Just infinity.......
From a scientific standpoint, There can't be just infinity. There must be something. From quantum mathematics to just statistical odds. We exist. We are here. Given an infinite space and mathematical odds within infinity, it is most likely impossible that we are alone in the universe or infinity.
 
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