The Dulce Report.

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I don't personally believe the Dulce battle story, but the place is definitely a paranormal hotspot. The Native Americans who live there have plenty of stories that have nothing to do with Schneider's tale. Norio Hayakawa made an excellent post on AH about the possibility that the mesa was used for nuclear testing and work continues there to this day.

Yes.....it is a paranormal for the Apache and others. But it doesn't appear that any nuclear testing was done if that area of New Mexico. If they released the location of testing in a populated area of Mississippi any tests in the deserts of the south west would be covered up.
 

wwkirk

Divine
Yes.....it is a paranormal for the Apache and others. But it doesn't appear that any nuclear testing was done if that area of New Mexico. If they released the location of testing in a populated area of Mississippi any tests in the deserts of the south west would be covered up.

Project Gasbuggy

"Project Gasbuggy was an underground nuclear detonation carried out by the United States Atomic Energy Commission on December 10, 1967 in rural northern New Mexico. It was part of Operation Plowshare, a program designed to find peaceful uses for nuclear explosions. Gasbuggy was carried out by the Lawrence Livermore Radiation Laboratory and the El Paso Natural Gas Company, with funding from the Atomic Energy Commission. Its purpose was to determine if nuclear explosions could be useful in fracturing rock formations for natural gas extraction. The site, lying in the Carson National Forest, is approximately 34 km (21 mi) southwest of Dulce, New Mexico and 87 km (54 mi) east of Farmington, and was chosen because natural gas deposits were known to be held in sandstone beneath Leandro Canyon."
https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com...the-mystery-of-the-dulce-new-mexico-triangle/
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Project Gasbuggy

"Project Gasbuggy was an underground nuclear detonation carried out by the United States Atomic Energy Commission on December 10, 1967 in rural northern New Mexico. It was part of Operation Plowshare, a program designed to find peaceful uses for nuclear explosions. Gasbuggy was carried out by the Lawrence Livermore Radiation Laboratory and the El Paso Natural Gas Company, with funding from the Atomic Energy Commission. Its purpose was to determine if nuclear explosions could be useful in fracturing rock formations for natural gas extraction. The site, lying in the Carson National Forest, is approximately 34 km (21 mi) southwest of Dulce, New Mexico and 87 km (54 mi) east of Farmington, and was chosen because natural gas deposits were known to be held in sandstone beneath Leandro Canyon."

Thank you......I remember reading about Gasbuggy years ago. There were also tests down by Carlsbad NM......don't recall the name.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I read about Dulce base a few years back originally, and I became obsessed with it. Mostly because, like @wwkirk said, it's red meat. However, I watched an interview Schneider had and I could tell he wasn't sincere. His story sounded... a little too well put together, but the concept, it was awesome to me. Then, I remember reading that he had told his ex-wife if something ever happened to him, she knew why... and he was found not too long after, apparently strangled with piano wire (not too sure on this, read this somewhere but was informed by someone else he was hung/hung himself...?) so that kind of made me re-believe everything he laid a foundation down for.

Eventually I found a really long document, an interview with Thomas Castello apparently not too long before he went missing... He described the base and its inner working, what he saw with his security privileges, and claims he met an extraterrestrial in the base that wanted to switch sides, I can't really remember the specifics as it's been a very long time since I've looked at it... I will check my files to see if I can find it because I do think I saved it somewhere and I will attach it at the bottom of my post...

I know people were saying the photos Castello released were from the set of a movie, but apparently there was a case that the photos Castello released were dated before the release of that specific movie by a large enough margin where it couldn't have been true...

Anyway, I think it's a shame that if any of it is true, it gets muddled with so much fiction (maybe Schneider) just for the sake of either making fun of people who truly believe in these kinds of things, trying to get their attention away from something else, or just for public sensationalism....

(it's very long, and I may have posted this in a Dulce Base post I made a year or so ago but for those that wish to divulge their curiosity...)

Castello interview:
A Dulce Base Security Officer Speaks Out

There was this long thread at AU about Costello started by a person named Lethceb. It turned out to be total BS.

It appears many of the points in the link were ones that were shot down as hoaxes or BS by people at AU.
 
There was some of that Gasbuggy business in Colorado too. Then there was Ford's proposed atomic powered car. But the oil companies killed that. ;)

Timing, I think, is the only reason that Branton crapola got any traction at all. It was the early days of the Information Superhighway, the UFO topic was surging in popularity, nature abhors a vacuum, and so on. It went on to influence a lot of people who should have had the sense to ignore it. Then we got John Lear's wild nonsense, which was based on it. Lear might not have known any better. If only he'd read The Andromeda Strain like the rest of us.

Anyway, there is no sign of any such thing at Dulce. What is often forgotten is there was quite a lot of detail in those early stories that could be checked on the ground, and it was all hokum. Many people went and stomped around, looking for the big road and other things that of course were not there. Dulce is in an interesting area, and there are some intriguing reports that have nothing to do with the supposed underground base. I've been there, just passing through. It's a sleepy little place with some "normal" tourist business common to the area. I'm sure there have been local attempts to capitalize on the legends.

I never understood why there was a recent flurry of belief in the business. That conference or whatever it was some years ago, over in Farmington or somewhere, featured a visit from a helicopter "recording license plate numbers" at the hotel. Hmmm... let's see... what's the costliest and most obnoxious way to gather the license plate numbers on the rental cars of a bunch of UFO nuts at a convention? Obviously pure theater. Well, not obvious to the people convinced there is an underground base at Dulce.
 

starsfall

Believer
once thought there was sumthing to this buuuut
I agree... I delved pretty deep into it a couple years back, but looking back at Schneider's interviews and claims now makes it pretty obvious that if there is something going on there, he was maybe trying to make people believe there wasn't... The Castello documents are pretty convincing to me as well, but I do question it a lot more than I used to...
 

starsfall

Believer
There was this long thread at AU about Costello started by a person named Lethceb. It turned out to be total BS.

It appears many of the points in the link were ones that were shot down as hoaxes or BS by people at AU.
So someone took the time to make the elaborate interview with Castello..? That thing is pretty long, one of the things convincing me of it's authenticity... then again I suppose there are people who dedicate their time to discrediting these things or trying to make people blindly follow things that aren't there...

It's still a shame...
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
So someone took the time to make the elaborate interview with Castello..? That thing is pretty long, one of the things convincing me of it's authenticity... then again I suppose there are people who dedicate their time to discrediting these things or trying to make people blindly follow things that aren't there...

It's still a shame...

The person I mentioned did a pretty elaborate setup to support Costello.......so there are people out there who put a lot of effort into things. Usually they just do it for attention.
 

starsfall

Believer
The person I mentioned did a pretty elaborate setup to support Costello.......so there are people out there who put a lot of effort into things. Usually they just do it for attention.
Gotcha… I mean I still don't understand why people take the time to spread misinformation about things that some people actually believe in instead of trying to further their knowledge of something they may believe in instead... Thank you for the info @Castle-Yankee54
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Gotcha… I mean I still don't understand why people take the time to spread misinformation about things that some people actually believe in instead of trying to further their knowledge of something they may believe in instead... Thank you for the info @Castle-Yankee54

I find the need for attention is a strong motivation to do just that.....but its not really spreading misinformation. I don't see the need for anyone to spread misinformation.
 
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