Mystery of sonic weapon attacks

nivek

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Mystery of sonic weapon attacks at US embassy in Cuba deepens




At least some of the incidents were confined to certain rooms with laser-like specificity, and some victims now have problems recalling specific words.

The blaring, grinding noise jolted the American diplomat from his bed in a Havana hotel. He moved just a few feet, and there was silence. He climbed back into bed. Inexplicably, the agonizing sound hit him again. It was as if he’d walked through some invisible wall cutting straight through his room.

Soon came the hearing loss, and the speech problems, symptoms both similar and altogether different from others among at least 21 US victims in an astonishing international mystery still unfolding in Cuba. The top US diplomat has called them “health attacks”.

New details learned by the Associated Press indicate at least some of the incidents were confined to specific rooms or even parts of rooms with laser-like specificity, baffling US officials who say the facts and the physics don’t add up.

“None of this has a reasonable explanation,” said Fulton Armstrong, a former CIA official who served in Havana long before America re-opened an embassy there. “It’s just mystery after mystery after mystery.”

Suspicion initially focused on a sonic weapon, and on the Cubans. Yet the diagnosis of mild brain injury, considered unlikely to result from sound, has confounded the FBI, the state department and US intelligence agencies involved in the investigation.

Some victims now have problems concentrating or recalling specific words, several officials said, the latest signs of more serious damage than the US government initially realized. The United States first acknowledged the attacks in August – nine months after symptoms were first reported.

The Trump administration still hasn’t identified a culprit or a device to explain the attacks, according to interviews with more than a dozen current and former US officials, Cuban officials and others briefed on the investigation. Most weren’t authorized to discuss the probe and demanded anonymity.

In fact, almost nothing about what went down in Havana is clear. Investigators have tested several theories about an intentional attack: by Cuba’s government, a rogue faction of its security forces, a third country like Russia or some combination thereof. Yet they’ve left open the possibility an advanced espionage operation went horribly awry, or that some other, less nefarious explanation is to blame.

Aside from their homes, officials said Americans were attacked in at least one hotel, a fact not previously disclosed. An incident occurred on an upper floor of the recently renovated Hotel Capri, a 60-year-old concrete tower steps from the Malecon, Havana’s iconic, waterside promenade.

The cases vary deeply: different symptoms, different recollections of what happened.

In several episodes recounted by US officials, victims knew it was happening in real time, and there were strong indications of a sonic attack.

Some felt vibrations, and heard sounds – loud ringing or a high-pitch chirping similar to crickets or cicadas. Others heard the grinding noise. Some victims awoke with ringing in their ears and fumbled for their alarm clocks, only to discover the ringing stopped when they moved away from their beds.

The attacks seemed to come at night. Several victims reported they came in minute-long bursts.

Yet others heard nothing, felt nothing. Later, their symptoms came.
The scope keeps widening. On Tuesday, the state department disclosed that doctors had confirmed another two cases, bringing the total American victims to 21. Some have mild traumatic brain injury, known as a concussion, and others permanent hearing loss.

Even the potential motive is unclear. Investigators are at a loss to explain why Canadians were harmed, too, including some who reported nosebleeds. Fewer than 10 Canadian diplomatic households in Cuba were affected, a Canadian official said.

Unlike the US, Canada has maintained warm ties to Cuba for decades.

Sound and health experts are equally baffled. Targeted, localized beams of sound are possible, but the laws of acoustics suggest such a device would probably be large and not easily concealed. Officials said it’s unclear whether the device’s effects were localized by design or due to some other technical factor.

And no single, sonic gadget seems to explain such an odd, inconsistent array of physical responses.

“Brain damage and concussions, it’s not possible,” said Joseph Pompei, a former MIT researcher and psychoacoustics expert. “Somebody would have to submerge their head into a pool lined with very powerful ultrasound transducers.”

Other symptoms have included brain swelling, dizziness, nausea, severe headaches, balance problems and tinnitus, or prolonged ringing in the ears. Many victims have shown improvement since leaving Cuba and some suffered only minor or temporary symptoms.

After the US complained to Cuba’s government earlier this year and Canada detected its own cases, the FBI and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police traveled to Havana to investigate.

FBI investigators swept the rooms, looking for devices. They found nothing, several officials briefed on the investigation said.

In May, Washington expelled two Cuban diplomats to protest the communist government’s failure to protect Americans serving there. But the US has taken pains not to accuse Havana of perpetrating the attacks. It’s a sign investigators believe that even if elements of Cuba’s security forces were involved, it wasn’t necessarily directed from the top.

Cuba’s government declined to answer specific questions about the incidents, pointing to a previous foreign affairs ministry statement denying any involvement, vowing full cooperation and saying it was treating the situation “with utmost importance”.

“Cuba has never, nor would it ever, allow that the Cuban territory be used for any action against accredited diplomatic agents or their families, without exception,” the Cuban statement said.

Mystery of sonic weapon attacks at US embassy in Cuba deepens
 

Toroid

Founding Member
The US is pulling half its staff from their embassy in Havana, Cuba due to mysterious attacks. They're also warning Americans not to travel there because there's been attacks at hotels.
US pulls staff from Cuba over 'attacks'
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nivek

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Cuba says they know nothing about it, I say bs, I seriously doubt they know nothing...This is a deliberate attack in my opinion, whether from the Cuban gov. or someone they are allowing to do this...
 

Toroid

Founding Member
I wonder if they have an ability to triangulate the source of the sonic weapon or if there's no defense against it.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I wonder if they have an ability to triangulate the source of the sonic weapon or if there's no defense against it.

I don't know how thorough the US is in trying to find the source either...
 

Toroid

Founding Member
It looks like there are group(s) in Cuba that don't want normalized relations with the US.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
It looks like there are group(s) in Cuba that don't want normalized relations with the US.

I'm sure there are, just like there are groups in the US that probably don't want to deal with Cuba either...
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
"WASHINGTON — The State Department announced on Friday that it is pulling more than half of its staff out of the American embassy in Havana in the wake of mysterious attacks that have injured 21 people associated with the embassy.

Some of those attacked have suffered significant injuries, with symptoms including hearing loss, dizziness, tinnitus, balance and visual problems, headache, fatigue, cognitive issues and difficulty sleeping. But despite an intensive investigation by the F.B.I., the cause and perpetrators of the attacks remain a mystery, with some experts speculating that some kind of sonic weapon or faulty surveillance device may have been at fault."




U.S. to Pull More Diplomats Out of Cuba After Attacks
 

Toroid

Founding Member
The US will expel 15 Cuban diplomats from the DC embassy for the sonic attacks.
U.S. Will Expel 15 Cuban Diplomats Following Mystery Attacks | HuffPost
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration on Tuesday ordered the expulsion of 15 diplomats from Cuba’s embassy in Washington following last week’s U.S. move to pull more than half of its own diplomats out of Havana, a State Department official said.

The U.S. decisions were based on the Cuban government’s failure to do enough to protect American personnel in Cuba who have been targeted in mysterious “attacks” that have damaged their health, the official told reporters, speaking on condition of anonymity. The Cuban diplomats have been given seven days to leave.

The steps being taken by President Donald Trump’s administration mark a further blow to his predecessor Barack Obama’s policy of rapprochement between Washington and Havana, former Cold War foes.
 

nivek

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This is a very serious situation...If this was a test of some sort it seems to me it served it's purpose and whomever is doing this will proceed to advance their agenda using this weapon...

What if it's easy to build it on a larger scale, say hit a major city of a million or more?...or even a city of 500,000, what's the range of this weapon?...Can it be fired from space or offshore?...This can be a very dangerous weapon if it can be created to do more damage to humans and on a large scale...
 

nivek

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The sonic attacks continue in Cuba, now tourists are being attacked...

US tourists back from Cuba claim symptoms similar to mysterious attacks

A handful of U.S. tourists who recently returned from Cuba have complained about symptoms similar to those experienced in mysterious sonic attacks against U.S. government workers.

The State Department said Friday that several Americans who don't work for the government have reported similar symptoms after traveling to the country. But the U.S. government "cannot verify the claims" or any potential connection to the attacks said the official, who wasn't authorized to comment by name and spoke on condition of anonymity.

"Since we issued the September 29 Travel Warning, we have received a handful of reports from U.S. citizens who report they experienced similar symptoms following stays in Cuba," a State Department official told CBS News. "We have no way of verifying whether they were harmed by the same attacks targeting official U.S. employees."

At least 22 U.S. Embassy employees on the communist-run island have reported injuries from attacks "of an unknown nature," according to the State Department. Symptoms have included ear issues, hearing loss, dizziness, headache, fatigue, cognitive issues and difficulty sleeping.
 

nivek

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So the Cubans have a different take on this...:huh8:

Brain abnormalities found in US and Canadian diplomats living in Havana were caused by stress from listening to 'noisy crickets' rather than a mystery sonic weapon, claim Cuban scientists

  • In August, diplomats reported hearing sounds believed to be a sonic weapon
  • Brain scans revealed that the sounds were causing changes to the white matter
  • Now, Cuban scientists have investigated the cause of the sounds
  • They found that crickets chirped at a frequency matching sound on recordings
  • The FBI is now planning a follow-up study to verify these findings
 

FFH

Honorable
So the Cubans have a different take on this...:huh8:

Brain abnormalities found in US and Canadian diplomats living in Havana were caused by stress from listening to 'noisy crickets' rather than a mystery sonic weapon, claim Cuban scientists




    • In August, diplomats reported hearing sounds believed to be a sonic weapon
    • Brain scans revealed that the sounds were causing changes to the white matter
    • Now, Cuban scientists have investigated the cause of the sounds
    • They found that crickets chirped at a frequency matching sound on recordings
    • The FBI is now planning a follow-up study to verify these findings
Crickets, as in birds or something else? Not sure about the meaning of this word.
 

nivek

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Crickets, as in birds or something else? Not sure about the meaning of this word.

As in crickets, small insect-like creatures...

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nivek

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Seems to me this was a test of some new weapon...

US diplomats in Cuba DID suffer brain injuries but there is no explanation as to what caused it

  • A report released on Wednesday has confirmed that US diplomats in Cuba did suffer brain injuries
  • However the cases were not accompanied by expected head trauma and the trigger remains unclear
  • In late 2016 when diplomats at the US Embassy first began noticing health symptoms that they associated with weird sounds or vibrations
  • Symptoms including ringing in one ear, headaches, vertigo, memory problems, impaired concentration, irritability, and balance problems and dizziness
  • In total, 21 American diplomats have reported the symptoms, which has been blamed by a mysterious sonic device to which they were exposed
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Doctors detected abnormalities in the white matter tracts of the embassy workers. White matter tracts (right) are the 'highways' that connect regions of the brain. They are essential for passing information to different parts of the brain.
 

nivek

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I have a 10 x 16 building which I bought last year for a engineering workshop to free up space in my house...This spring I'm insulating the walls and ceiling which is lofted and when the insulation goes in also a strong copper woven wire to make the building a true Faraday cage...
 
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