Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

nivek

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French coronavirus quarantine to spare travellers from Schengen area and UK

Travellers to France who arrive from a country in Europe’s Schengen open-border area or Britain will be exempt from a planned compulsory two-week quarantine, the French consulate in Britain said on Sunday.

The new quarantine rules will apply to travellers, whether French or foreigners, as part of the fight against the new coronavirus.

Details will be provided in a decree specifying measures laid out in a bill extending a state of emergency until July 24. The move allows the government to restrict freedom of movement to try to curb the spread of the coronavirus.l

“People entering the French territory from countries in the European area (EU/Schengen and United Kingdom) will NOT be affected by the quarantine measure announced in France, the details of which will be specified shortly,” the French consulate in Britain said on Twitter on a verified account.

France, which has been the fifth-hardest hit country with 24,895 deaths from COVID-19, is preparing to gradually lift lockdown measures from May 11.


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So what would really happen if we aren't able to create a vaccine for this coronavirus, these lockdown are not sustainable in the longer term, so what would we do?...

What happens if a coronavirus vaccine is never developed? It's happened before

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I've been thinking these thoughts since this all started...and it's depressing af to consider. Science is a very powerful force...which moves very very slowly. Like a glacier.

It's difficult to be hopeful that some unprecedented medical miracle will happen within the next few years to turn this battle around and put us on top again. But it's easy to imagine that we'll all spend the next few years living "under a rock, like a bloody salamander," bereft of the joys of social intimacy and the few remaining scraps of cultural escapism that make this shitty world bearable.
 
Here's the current chart of the growth rate of the virus within the US - as you can see, even with all of the restrictions we've implemented we're still seeing a positive growth rate...about 2.8% per day at this point. It's frustrating to see; whereas in other countries we've seen a peak and then a drop, we got stuck at the peak so our number of active cases keeps on increasing every day.

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nivek

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I think we will see that rate of growth rise again by mid-June as States open back up, I can't blame the State Governors and the People for wanting to get things opened up and somewhat back to normal, I just think there will be a spike in the rate of growth as a result...Hope I'm wrong...

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nivek

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Here's the current chart of the growth rate of the virus within the US - as you can see, even with all of the restrictions we've implemented we're still seeing a positive growth rate...about 2.8% per day at this point. It's frustrating to see; whereas in other countries we've seen a peak and then a drop, we got stuck at the peak so our number of active cases keeps on increasing every day.

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The new cases in the US has stayed between 20k-30k a day, Russia has been spiking in new cases but Russian deaths have been remarkably low...Brazil is on a runaway train, the virus is spreading relentlessly through that country and they aren't doing enough to gain control...India has been fortunate thus far, if the virus goes on a rampage through India we could see hundreds of thousands of deaths...

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nivek

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Hot-desking banned, no sharing pens, canteens closed and over-70s and the obese working from home under leaked plans to reopen offices that could remain in place for a YEAR

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Millions of Britons face a grim return to work in which all normal social contact remains heavily restricted, a leaked government blueprint revealed yesterday.

Ministers are preparing to publish a back-to-work dossier for seven sectors of the economy at the end of this week, detailing the steps employers will have to follow to get staff back into offices. But draft guidance seen by the Daily Mail suggested there will be no return to normality in the foreseeable future with the government telling businesses the restrictions could remain in place for up to a year. Employers will be told to close canteens and other communal areas, with staff encouraged to eat packed lunches on their own.

Shift patterns will be staggered to limit the number of people at work at any one time and reduce rush-hour pressure on public transport. Access to communal facilities like photocopiers will be limited, areas of the floor will be taped off to keep people two metres apart and people could be barred from sitting opposite one another. Hot desking will be banned and workers will not even be allowed to lend each other a pen for fear of spreading the virus.

As a result of the stringent measures, millions of staff will be told to keep working from home indefinitely 'if at all possible'. And firms have been told that 'vulnerable' people, including the over-70s, pregnant women and the severely obese, should work from home – even if this means finding them a new role. The government is believed to have warned industry groups that the restrictions could stay in place for six to 12 months - dashing hopes of a swift return to normal life.

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Standingstones

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I need to have a medical procedure done in a weeks time. I received a phone call telling me I need to be tested for the Corona virus. That means I need to go to a local hospital and have them push a swab up my nose and take my temperature. I was also told to stay at home and not go out of my house except for the virus testing. Do not go to the grocery store or any place else. Let some else buy the food.

I was royally pissed after this phone call. I need to have this procedure done so they have me by the short hairs.
 

nivek

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Here's some US numbers covering the last 24 hours, my state NC is 20th on the list with just over 10,000 active cases...Illinois had a spike in deaths as well as Pennsylvania...

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Toroid

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In California you can be on some beaches, but you have to be walking, jogging or running. You can't stand, sit or congregate. This reminded me of something I heard/read and that's you can only see things that are in motion. What constitutes stationary? Is this AI/satellite related? In the Corteum bible "Liminal Cosmogony" they have a diagram of the Grand Universe and the central universe is stationary and eternal. In Whitley Strieber's book "The Grays" the military had a Gray in a holding facility and they sent a man in there to communicate with it. He couldn't see the Gray because they have an ability to stay in a person's visual blind spot. I've heard they have other evasive and cloaking abilities.
 

nivek

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The daily deaths in the US seems to be continuing on a plateau with regular ups and downs in numbers, a fluctuation of over a 1000 now...It just seems very strange to me...


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nivek

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The US, UK, and Brazil had spikes in deaths and new cases, according to worldometer only 8 million people have been tested in the US out of a population of over 300 million...Italy had a small spike in deaths, these numbers are from the past 24 hours...

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nivek

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How coronavirus is surging in the US as lockdowns are lifted: Data shows a spike in infections across the country as reopening states become hotspots - with Minnesota seeing a 155% increase in cases in a week

Minnesota and Nebraska have seen a surge in new coronavirus cases as data shows that COVID-19 is on the rise across the United States with infection rates increasing even as states continue to lift their lockdown measures. Data is showing that declining cases in hard-hit New York are driving the national trend downwards when more than a third of states are actually still seeing infections increase.

Despite the rising infections, the majority of states across the US have lifted lockdown restrictions or have announced plans to reopen - even as health experts warn of potential spikes in deaths. Public health experts are warning that a failure to flatten the curve and drive down the infection rate in places could lead to a spike in deaths.

Apart from New York, data shows the rest of the US is moving in the wrong direction with new confirmed infections per day exceeding 20,000. Currently, more than 72,000 people have now died from the coronavirus and there are more than 1.2 million infections across the country.



 

nivek

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Coronavirus IS causing deadly new inflammatory fever in some children, British study finds

Coronavirus is 'manifesting' as a deadly new inflammatory syndrome in some children, a British study revealed yesterday. Health Secretary Matt Hancock said last week that he was 'very worried' by an NHS alert over a serious autoimmune response. The study into eight cases of children admitted to intensive care with coronavirus-related inflammatory syndrome found that all tested positive for virus antibodies – showing they have previously had Covid-19, often without displaying symptoms.

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Experts said the study, published in The Lancet, supports the view that the virus is the cause. The children, aged four to 14, were all treated in intensive care at Evelina London Children's Hospital in mid-April. One, a previously healthy 14-year-old boy, died of a stroke after being admitted.

Seven of the eight were clinically obese and six were from Bame (black, Asian and minority ethnic) backgrounds. All had 'unrelenting fever, rash and generalised extremity pain', vomiting and diarrhoea. A common clinical feature was inflammation of the heart and blood vessels, which caused one child to have a 'giant coronary aneurysm' after being discharged.

While all tested positive for virus antibodies, nearly all had tested negative for the active virus in swab tests while in hospital. Scientists said this raised the possibility that the symptoms are part of a delayed immune response to the infection in children.

The study, led by consultant paediatrician Dr Shelley Riphagen, said a further 12 children with similar symptoms have since been treated. Dr Jeremy Rossman, a virologist at the University of Kent, said the findings were 'very concerning'. NHS England has sent an urgent alert to GPs warning that symptoms are similar to Kawasaki disease – a rare illness that triggers inflammation in the walls of the blood vessels. It can lead to aneurysms and heart attacks.

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The daily deaths in the US seems to be continuing on a plateau with regular ups and downs in numbers, a fluctuation of over a 1000 now...It just seems very strange to me...


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If you look at the dates, the peaks are happening mid-week and the valleys are happening near the weekends. So apparently most hospitals are reporting deaths unevenly during the week, rather than every day.
 

Kchoo

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This is a nasty virus.
Its purpose- spread, mutate, spread.
1 million of the buggers could occupy the space on the head of pin.

The idea of controlling it is a Nobel notion, but in truth, there is little we can do until a vaccine can be mass produced- and It will never go away-

We have vaccines for the flu, and hundreds of thousands still die.

Yet, a high percentage won't even know they had Covid.
Others will die, or suffer long term health problems unless they are really lucky.

Nobody talks about the terrible existence for many of the 'survivors' after being on a breathing machine. They will have brain damages, circulation is effected, parts of their bodies are eaten up, and it will take them a year or more to recover, and others will have permanent damage. Some will no longer be able to take care of themselves.

It is what it is. A virus.

The upside is, computers are allowing many business operations to continue. The economy is leveling to a new normal, and the world is still operating. Right now, our best defense is virtualization where possible.

This is still going to suck, but Corona isn't going to extinguish humanity. Humans might succeed at destroying themselves in a hundred years, but I doubt the virus slow that down much.
 
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AD1184

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Here's where things currently sit normalized for population:

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Belgium seems to be doing significantly worse than anywhere else. The United States is not faring too badly at the moment. Britain looks set to overtake Italy and rival Spain by current measures. It is important, however, to understand that there is national variation in how these data are recorded, making direct comparisons between nations difficult. There was much said earlier in the week when Britain overtook Italy in the absolute death count. However, Italy is further behind in its own death reporting. The outcome for Britain has been a disaster, as a result of poor planning, a lack of foresight, poor decision-making, poor leadership, a lack of seriousness, and a defeatist attitude (ad nauseam), but we also might be a bit more forthcoming about the scale of the deaths than some other European nations.

One thing I, and many other commentators, think might have hampered British efforts is the centralist nature of the response, attempting to micromanage the actions in all regions of the country (at least, in England), instead of allowing local authorities more autonomy to take their own actions. This might be an advantage of the US system in this case, where its federalist nature means that a lot of the responsibility for action lies with individual state governments with support from central government (Lord knows Trump, as Commander in Chief, is of very little utility in a situation like this), although bad state and city governments will of course respond badly.
 
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AD1184

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The Mail reports on a paper published by researchers in the Annals of the Bleeding Obvious:
Coronavirus: Nations hit hardest had most international travel | Daily Mail Online
Why countries SHOULD shut their borders: Scientists find air travel is main driver of COVID-19 outbreaks as they say screening, testing and quarantining travellers is 'a cheap solution for humanity'
  • Brazilian researchers found the nations hit hardest has most international travel
  • It may explain why US (73,431) and UK (30,150) have world's highest death tolls
  • UK still not routinely testing passengers despite being worst-hit nation in Europe
  • Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19[/quote]
 
The amount of circumstantial evidence supporting the hypothesis that this virus leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology is very difficult to dismiss. It seems that China's top bat coronavirus researcher was talking about testing a very closely related coronavirus on primates at that facility five years ago, and several Chinese researchers have publicly pointed to her lab as the source of the outbreak. I haven't vetted all of the info in this video yet but it certainly seems to paint a very damning picture of this virus as a developmental bioweapon that got loose from a notably unsafe virology lab:

 
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