A million plastic bottles a minute

Ras

Ras

Honorable
Dundee said:
Australia's northern shore, when I was last up there it was way worse than this, all washed in from our northern oceans. It was about 5 times worse and as far as the eye can see. I didn't take photo's as I was blown away (and had just been chased by a snake so was still a little rattled) Most Aussie beaches are pristine. I had no idea we had this problem in the NT

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:eek:Omg, i've never seen anything like this before.
 
CasualBystander

CasualBystander

Celestial
Diva said:
I disagree with her.

Its a pointless battle trying to get this bacteria to degrade billions of ever continues of plastic bottles.. What we need is to change the humans, like giving a fine for littering will do i think.
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It isn't pointless, it is a problem.

Plastics were only effective since they didn't interact with nature.

Much like there isn't much that chews on aluminum.

But anything that burns exothermically in general can be consumed by bacteria.

Bacteria are evolving to metabolize plastic. They will evolve to metabolize it very efficiently.
 
3FEL9

3FEL9

Islander
Diva said:
like giving a fine for littering will do i think
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Sure... Are you Diva gonna train the millions of environmental police officers needed then ?
Will they snoop around ppl writing tickets as soon as PET bottles hit the ground or tossed at sea ?

Well, you will atleast create a lot of jobs.. and thats good :Thumbsup:
 
Ras

Ras

Honorable
3FEL9 said:
Sure... Are you Diva gonna train the millions of environmental police officers needed then ?
Will they snoop around ppl writing tickets as soon as PET bottles hit the ground or tossed at sea ?

Well, you will atleast create a lot of jobs.. and thats good :Thumbsup:
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Well PET bottles sounds like a better solution.

But im baffled, why would people throw bottles in the beach and sea? I hardly see bottles in beaches here, perhaps because the sun here is very hot, so people tend not to sit/stay in the beach here for longer time, i think.
 
CasualBystander

CasualBystander

Celestial
Diva said:
Well PET bottles sounds like a better solution.

But im baffled, why would people throw bottles in the beach and sea? I hardly see bottles in beaches here, perhaps because the sun here is very hot, so people tend not to sit/stay in the beach here for longer time, i think.
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Perhaps you have not met many of the dominant species on the planet "Homo Sapiens".

Homo Sapiens is actually a coinage and isn't entirely accurate.

The subspecies that is the problem is "Imprudens Ebriosus".
 
August

August

Metanoia
All of this junk was washed ashore from sailing boats, fishing boats, anything afloat really dumping their garbage into the sea. Its pathetic.
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CasualBystander

CasualBystander

Celestial
August said:
All of this junk was washed ashore from sailing boats, fishing boats, anything afloat really dumping their garbage into the sea. Its pathetic.
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Could force anyone that sails in Oztralia waters to come ashore and spend a day cleaning up the beach.

It doesn't matter that a few of the victims are innocent.

Mandatory week of cleanup for anyone whose trash is identifie.
 
August

August

Metanoia
CasualBystander said:
Could force anyone that sails in Oztralia waters to come ashore and spend a day cleaning up the beach.

It doesn't matter that a few of the victims are innocent.

Mandatory week of cleanup for anyone whose trash is identifie.
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Its not on every beach but the ocean is full off this crap from floating washed overboard containers ( and whatever is in them ?) to tiny microscopic plastic residue. Some of the beaches in Australia are remote to say the least the chances of them all being cleaned up are nil. These kids cleaned up this beach though.
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CasualBystander

CasualBystander

Celestial
CasualBystander said:
Yeah, that was part of the problem with the MH370 search, they kept finding shipping containers.
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This is becoming s bigger problem than I thought.

Some of the containers are marginally buoyant and float just under the water. I suspect that inertia means waves wash over them most of the time.

Hitting them with a sailboat is lethal. It is like running into the dock at 10 mph.

They don't have a radar signature so there is no easy way to find them.

Another fun fact, shipping cost is partially based on layer since the higher in the load the greater the risk of loss.
 
CasualBystander

CasualBystander

Celestial
3FEL9 said:
How many ? Pls read this.

How Many Shipping Containers Are Really Lost At Sea? – gCaptain
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I am suspicious of those numbers. You can find numerous pictures of ships showing skewed loads.

Further, my recollection of the MH370 search is they found more that 20 containers in a small slice of ocean. The catastrophic incidents would have dumped containers in one spot.

If we could get a good count of shipping containers found by the search we could generate a good estimate for the real number. Right now it looks higher than is claimed.
 
nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
Busting Ocean Myths: How many containers are really lost at sea?

The Claim: 10,000 containers are lost at sea every year.

Who said it: Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute, Slashdot, Yahoo News, NOAA, me, and many others.

Status: False.

Fortunately, it’s pretty hard to hide a missing container and the number of containers lost at sea is actually much lower than 10,000. In 2011 and 2014, the World Shipping Councilsurveyed it’s members to find out exactly how many containers are lost at sea each year. What they found was that not only was the number of lost containers an order of magnitude less than the 10,000 figure, but that the average was driven up by two catastrophic accidents–the sinking of the MOL Comfort and the grounding of the MV Rena.
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Between 2008 and 2013, and excluding these two maritime disasters, an average of 546 containers were lost at sea. When Comfort and Rena are added to the equation, that number climbs to 1,679 containers per year. The MOL Comfort, which broke in half on June 17, 2013 and subsequently sunk during a prolonged attempt to recover her stern, was the worst container ship disaster in history: 4,293 containers were lost in a single incident. The MV Rena grounded on a reef of the New Zealand coast in late 2011, spilling 900 containers over the side.

Even with these two maritime tragedies, the number of containers lost at sea each year come nowhere close to 10,000. When you consider that roughly 120 million containers were moved across the ocean in 2013, 1,679 lost containers per year seems positively minuscule.
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CasualBystander

CasualBystander

Celestial
3FEL9 said:
That photo is from Henderson island.. just happened to find it on google earth !
38 million pieces of trash found on uninhabited island in Pacific
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This is good news.

If you are stranded on a desert island, you will have toiletries, protective gear, toys and amusements, and an array of raw materials to meet your tool/construction needs.

I don't understand why greenunists get their panties in a bunch about this. This "waste" is a beneficial source of free supplies for the enterprising who have met with misfortune.
 
3FEL9

3FEL9

Islander
CasualBystander said:
This is good news.

If you are stranded on a desert island, you will have toiletries, protective gear, toys and amusements, and an array of raw materials to meet your tool/construction needs.

I don't understand why greenunists get their panties in a bunch about this. This "waste" is a beneficial source of free supplies for the enterprising who have met with misfortune.
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I think ur right Casual. Just look .. This crab took advantage of the free goods washin up.

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nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
This toothpaste cap has been repurposed too...

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