Abductions: in-depth analysis

Roz

Adept
I highly respect this researcher, who also looked at my situation with alien interference many years ago ...

INTERVIEW WITH PROF. CORRADO MALANGA

Prof. Malanga, could you please explain to our readers what abductions are?

«With this Anglo-Saxon term we define a situation in which a human being tells of having been captured by alien entities of various kinds, often in the presence of soldiers of this planet. Adduction occurs not only at night but at any time of life. The technology behind these situations is certainly very evolved but not outside the understanding of modern physics. In fact, the adduced subject tells of situations that occur during the apparent block of time. Thus the whole adduction operation occurs in a single "existence frame". Frame in which the alleged subject is relegated. Meanwhile, all the other living creatures around him have moved forward in the arrow of time. The abductee is thus imprisoned, during the alien abduction, in a time bubble in which he is completely isolated from the rest of the world and in which the events told by him occur.

The adduction takes place to obtain from man something that the alien does not possess. A vital energy that would make the alien immortal. Man, in fact, is for the alien a container of three consciousnesses, that is three vital sources, conventionally definable with the names of soul, mind and spirit. These three consciousnesses can be represented as groups of vectors or, in some ways, describable as groups of color quarks. The aliens are interested only in the soul part because it has no time axis and therefore immortal.

It dwells within human bodies to experience the solid world - the world in which we live - and, in particular, experience about the beginning and end of things. Among these experiences there is therefore also that of death and it is for this reason that at present man, container of these three conscious entities, dies.

The alien does not like the idea of ending his experience in this three-dimensional universe and, for this reason, he has decided to take possession of this characteristic soul part of man, forcing it by means of technology to always remain imprisoned in containers - ie bodies - aliens, who in this way would never die physically.

here the complete interview

Corrado Malanga - perché gli alieni sono tra noi. Intervista
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I have been giving this narrative much thought off and on over the last few years, basically since you first discussed this with me on another forum a few years ago Roz...Much of this rings true to me or at least very close to what's occurring on a certain scale...There is one thing that came to mind recently, saying these very old and technologically advanced aliens can create the body man as we are now, and I'm not doubting a species billion years old could have this ability because it could very well be possible, could they not engineer their own bodies to a degree of attracting souls to themselves directly?...I guess they would have no reason to abduct humans anymore but it just seems to me if these aliens are so far advanced that they could create human bodies like ours, surely they would have the know how to engineer their own bodies to fit their needs?...

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
They might be using us simply as a cattle, to prop up some economic activity. For example, to clone worker android bugg eyed sub-spieces.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Bump...

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Waste of time and taking money from science, to spend on Rolce Royses and sex, as all gurus and prophets do.

Science will sooner or later make a conscious machine if it already didn't. Mathematics already shows that in Minkowsky's complex space, which is used both for GR and QM, "one is everything and everything is one". Tiny energy physics, QM, has already experimentally proven that with quantum entanglement, which will soon become the basis of a new quantum computing.

All that gurus tell you is a good story, they don't bring it down into the practical world so that everybody can benefit, like science does. Remember, 1 million gurus can't change a broken lightbulb, but one practical guy can.
 
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
They might be using us simply as a cattle, to prop up some economic activity. For example, to clone worker android bugg eyed sub-spieces.

Or it's a form of communication that we can't grok and the imagery and experiences are our brain's attempts to quantify an experience that might now be readily expressed in human terms. Ever wonder if we're right about them being advanced orders of magnitude beyond us? Could be they've been right here all along watching, maybe not interfering in any way, waiting for us to figure out the proper way to say hello.
 
Waste of time and taking money from science, to spend on Rolce Royses and sex, as all gurus and prophets do.

Science will sooner or later make a conscious machine if it already didn't. Mathematics already shows that in Minkowsky's complex space, which is used both for GR and QM, "one is everything and everything is one". Tiny energy physics, QM, has already experimentally proven that with quantum entanglement, which will soon become the basis of a new quantum computing.

All that gurus tell you is a good story, they don't bring it down into the practical world so that everybody can benefit, like science does. Remember, 1 million gurus can't change a broken lightbulb, but one practical guy can.
This branch of the conversation seems to be a bit off-topic, but I have to straighten you out on this point: not all gurus are charlatans, and in fact, the best of them have been leading people like you and me to experiences of a greater level of awakening and the true experience of freedom for eons.

In fact the most recent enlightened guru that I know about, Jiddu Krishnamurti, was handed complete control of the Theosophical Society on his 21st birthday - and when he went to the podium to make a statement, he immediately dissolved the entire organization and declared that "truth is a pathless land" and all authority stands in the way of personal realization and intelligence. He then spent the rest of his life giving a series of brilliant talks to captive audiences, which remain perhaps the single greatest source of insight and significance in the entire canon of human publication.

Science is wonderful, but frankly its significance pales in comparison to the personal experience of full, unfettered human consciousness...an experience which is tragically rare among the global population. In fact I think that without the wisdom engendered by the mystical experience of total wakefulness, science will probably be the tool of our undoing. In other words, we need to become superior people through transformative personal experience, if we're ever going to have a chance of wrangling the enormous power of scientific understanding to the ultimate benefit of humankind.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I suppose this is as good a spot as any.

I've seen a few references in other threads to how primitive and generally screwed up we Earthlings are. No argument from me, I go on about human nature often enough. There seems to be - and not specifically here at AE - an assumption that we would be visited by some race so advanced we can barely comprehend it i.e Contact and Arrival. True, they would have to be advanced enough to get here in the first place. But, as pointed out here, some of the mechanics of that are within our reach. Just pointing out that a visitation could come from a highly advanced culture as readily as one spewing poetry looking to build an off ramp.

I think the recent episode of The Black Vault got me thinking abut Lonnie Zamora and how improbable that craft sounds. Flames and thunder do not say gravity drive right off the bat to me. I believe the man but as spacecraft goes it sounds a bit anachronistic. Which got me wondering what a visit from a race not too far ahead of us might look like.

I have also been reading about Venus, Mars, Titan, the Moon and now Bennu. It gives me faith in humanity at a time when that's hard to drum up.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
IWhich got me wondering what a visit from a race not too far ahead of us might look like.

Perhaps that's what the allegedly crashed UFOs are, from species who are not too far ahead of us technologically, barely making it here and back, some not making it back...If there's species coming here who are thousands or millions of year ahead of us, I doubt they crash their vehicles much lol...

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow


One can't really discuss abductions and indeed the UFOs, till he/she watched the whole above series done by Richard Hall, a British investigator.

A brief summary would be this:

As far as the NATO alliance goes US/Canadian government agency called NORAD and stationed inside Cheyenne mountains in Colorado tracks all the football-size objects up to geostationary orbit around the Earth. On average a twice a month NORAD sees incoming UFOs and from their flight path can predict where they will land. Once the landing site is predicted an order is issued to member countries to send one of 4 specially treined bio-hazard cleanup teams. As I remember 2 teams are in the US, 1 team is assigned for UK and Germany and 4th team is for some other countries (I forgot). These teams are highly specialized in training and have two parts, one part secures the area, second part does the cleanup. Cleanup consists of the removal of human and animal body parts that aliens throw away from their vehicles.

What that whole series of videos is about is a testimony from one British soldier who served in the area securing a team. This soldier suffered from radiation exposure during multiple incidents and is living as a cripple, completely dependant on constant hospital care. It's not a nice story. It needs a lot of stomach to listen to it.

Basically, from time to time, some of the aliens hunt down humans and animals, maybe for scientific purposes. Bear in mind that that is a very small part of alien activity and the chances that that would happen to any one person are astronomically small.

Now, political collateral damage from these human mutilations coming into media would be not just large, but utterly uncontrollable. And that's the real reason why a small group of civil servants, in the UK and US, prevents full UFO disclosure. As long as human mutilations are happening there will be no disclosure. PERIOD. Any leak of this info would cause mass panic and a huge shakeup of politics and media. So it's, reasonable enough, to keep postponing public accepting UFOs as a regular thing, because sooner or later human mutilations will come to light and than things would go far beyond being just curiosity driven.

Actually, ufo research should focus more on human mutilations, since so far only one or two cases had been exposed. Few cases that I read are quite direct, where aliens literally go with hooks and clamps trying ot catch isolated humans in the countryside.

Practically, we are locked into our technological abilities. Our best fighter jets that can fly at 2 Mach in a single direction for a short time are no match for UFOs that can go 5 - 15 Mach with a sudden change of direction. Until we are able to mass-produce or re-produce technology behind the alien craft we have to let them do what they want.
 
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spacecase0

earth human
I have an alternate idea as to why disclosure is not happening,
potentially our planet is claimed by an off world group, and they are doing all kinds of things here,
if we rise up to get rid of them, or if they thought we had technology like them, then they would do what most farmers do,
they would wipe most of us out and start over, or do something else with the planet for a while.
they may already be worried about how high tech our civilization has gotten already.
if this is correct, then we will not know about the aliens until they start open war with earth.
so, the world leaders likely know that people are safer if none of this gets out to the public.
 
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