About warp drive

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  1. waitedavid137

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    A was what Alcubierre called the lapse function which in his paper he used [​IMG] for it, and g was 1-f which he used f for f. In regard to the lapse function I just chose a different letter to represent it. The function I independently introduce is h, which is roughly the square of g, and in regions where g is a constant is exactly g. What Alcubierre did was write down his choice of spacetime that would yield a warp drive to calculate what matter state would correspond to yielding it. The choice of warp drive to write down is not unique. The exotic part of it that didn't correspond to the usual state of matter was the energy density term as it was negative and spread all throughout the warp. He published the energy density as observed by a Euclarian observer probably because the publisher didn't want readers to know how the ship frame value is decreased by the lapse function, which I'm sure Alcubierre knew because he included the lapse function in the paper. In my choice that exotic matter is contained "inside" the warp bubble. I believe it can be produced by the Casimir effect. The physicality of the momentum like term I just showed does not prefer a sign. As for the outer part of the hull a ceramic is the best material I know of to help shield the ship, although the warp itself tends to deflect forward incoming geodesics around it. Essentially the warp itself works like a deflector shield.
     
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  2. Dejan Corovic

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    Hmmm, almost all ufos seem to have metallic hulls. Ceramic would be quite dull. It wasn't a trick question, but I discussed it before with @Thomas R. Morrison and he won, regarding the observed ufos.
     
  3. Dejan Corovic

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    Would you be interested for me to show you the second best UFO theory. Your's is the best, but the second best comes from a extremely reputable US scientist who was expert on General Relativity, as well. I think he earned his doctorate degree on GR.
     
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  4. waitedavid137

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    I'll say it again, the shuttle are not likely the interstellar warp drives.
     
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  5. waitedavid137

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    how many times do i have to repeat this? shuttle are not the interstellar
     
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    2nd best ok will tomorrow
     
  7. Dejan Corovic

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    With all due respect, but the shuttle craft still behave as non-inertial wehicles. And we mostly see them, not the interstellar variety. As well, it's unlikelly that in a short term we'll start building interstellar ships. So solutions leaning towards a shuttle type are more interesting.
     
  8. nivek

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    I think not quite metallic in the sense we understand metallics but some alloy or hybrid material that is exceptionally strong but flexible...

    ...
     
  9. Dejan Corovic

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    Yeah, but as Thomas pointed out, the shiny specular surface is conductive because of how quantum mechanics works. I forgot the exact mechanism, but I read about it before.
     
  10. Dejan Corovic

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    This is a quote from another thread.

    I would just like to ask once again, to make sure that I haven't got it wrong.

    Is this some form of variation of law of energy conservation that only applies within General Relativity?
     
  11. waitedavid137

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    sorry been sidetracked by life, nothing sinister. will be back soon
     
  12. waitedavid137

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    no more general than general relativity. emmy noether told us what creates the conservation law so we know when it is and isn't applicable. her theory which is fact generates energy conservation by time isometry
     
  13. waitedavid137

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    let me make this clear, what noether did was beyond newton, or Einstein. energy conservation is generated by time like isometry. general relativity as a side note, time like isometry is what decides even if an energy conservation law exists.
     
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  14. Dejan Corovic

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    I was just reading about the refraction of light. Light always takes a path of the least time. Is what you are talking about?

    Maybe my question should be more practical. So 1 Jule of energy in interstellar void is different from 1 Jule of energy near a black hole. Is that what you were trying to say?
     
  15. Roz

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    The speed of light is a limit that constitutes this reality, one cannot travel faster than light.

    The aliens know this bond well, but they have full knowledge of the structure of the universe.

    The UFO does not use speed to move to distant places, but instantly appears in the place it wants to reach. to do this the UFO vibrates at the frequency of reality it wishes to reach.

    The holographic universe theory explains well how this can happen: the universe is actually condensed into a single point, so there are no distances to travel, but everything is in one point.
     
  16. Dejan Corovic

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Can you please start a new thread about holographic universe and than expand from there. We want to keep this thread on topic without diversions.
     
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  17. Dejan Corovic

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    @waitedavid137 in this post #12 you are repeatedly using terms "concave up" and "concave down". Now I am familiar with concave and convex, as shown in the pic bellow.

    [​IMG]

    Is your "concave up" actually convex? Or how these terms that you use work? Can you maybe throw in a drawing?
     
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  18. Roz

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    thank you.

    I just wanted to point out that we are looking in the wrong direction. i think ufos are simpler than they seem. they do not travel in worm holes or folds of space-time.

    The basis is electrical energy, the use of light and consciousness, the UFO is somehow alive and "perceives" the reality it has to reach.

    it begins and "exist" in that place, it becomes compatible with it, without speed or time constraints.
     
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  19. waitedavid137

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    They is very general. Some do. I remember when I was 16 back in the Soviet cold war and my father was coming home white as a ghost saying "we are this close to wwIII" After 10 years after he retired he explained that a triangle was repeatedly flying by their version of A51 and they were shooting tactical nukes at it even though we were telling them it wasn't ours, but when they'd launch it would jump positions past the missile. That's not conventional propulsion.
     
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    it's not "my". As i suggested before, we need a translator.
     

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