Creepy Green Light
Silence = Deaf
I do believe the women in the Cash Landrum case saw something butI have no idea what it could have been. Anybody have any theory's of what happened that night?
Cash-Landrum hypothesis?
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pigfarmer
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To me it's always sounded terrestrial, maybe some prototype testing gone wrong. One point of contention is that the number of military helicopters they saw shepherding it exceeded the number of actual helicopters anywhere in that area. That's not a reason to throw the whole case out. Explaining it requires even more speculation and that's a slippery slope but my gut reaction to it was they were simply mistaken in moments of extreme stress.
I suppose another possibility is some sort of active deception, a military system making it appear as if there were more of them than there were. Mysterious helicopters appearing in unusual places is not unheard of, I remember Chris O'Brien talking about that. It would be handy to have, right ? But if they did have a way of generating fake helicopter images you'd think they'd have been used already in places like Afghanistan. That's a bit too thin and of a limb for me to go out on, but there it is anyway.
I suppose another possibility is some sort of active deception, a military system making it appear as if there were more of them than there were. Mysterious helicopters appearing in unusual places is not unheard of, I remember Chris O'Brien talking about that. It would be handy to have, right ? But if they did have a way of generating fake helicopter images you'd think they'd have been used already in places like Afghanistan. That's a bit too thin and of a limb for me to go out on, but there it is anyway.
Creepy Green Light
Silence = Deaf
I do remember the discrepancy with the amount of helicopters. I think there is a good chance that they miscounted the amount of helo's. I can see where this object is freaking them out but at the same time trying to count helicopters in the pitch dark. I also believe that it was terrestrial & I could imagine a giant f-up happening where the person in command gave an order something like "This NEVER happened. You're not to speak of this ever" etc. I think that's especially true since it appears that something from the U.S. military injured some civilians that were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They'd never come forward to admit that as it's just easier to lie lie lie deny deny deny.
But definitely sounds like something went awry that night that did injur someone.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
It left behind tangible evidence and produced physical effects that are out of step with almost all close encounters. They lost their federal lawsuit over the 'this NEVER happened' BS
I've seen some who want to connect this thing to the Rendlesham case simply due to timing. That's a a case of vivisecting similar sounding accounts into one big animal and I am not buying it. All too common unfortunately, the if-then-else predicated on nothing but speculation.
I've seen some who want to connect this thing to the Rendlesham case simply due to timing. That's a a case of vivisecting similar sounding accounts into one big animal and I am not buying it. All too common unfortunately, the if-then-else predicated on nothing but speculation.
Creepy Green Light
Silence = Deaf
One of the main things that tells me the Cash Landrum case was terrestrial was their report of flames shooting out of the bottom of the craft. Once I hear "flames" I immediately think that it's got to be man made & the same thing with Lonnie Zamora. Once we get to Rendlesham I do believe it was the lighthouse light as it seems to have been in sync whenever (on the tape recording) they said "There it is again!". The holes in the ground just look like rabbit holes to me and the other thing that ruins Renldlesham for me is the guy who claims he put his hands on the object and the object communicated to him that they were earthlings visiting from the future, etc. I just don't buy it.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
I can't think of them specifically but very early cases spoke of cigar shaped craft with portholes shooting flames like Buck Rogers minus the black powder smoke and sparks. One said something like 'I was so close I could see the rivets on the hull'
Some part of this phenomenon is a form of observer effect, more like the event influences the observer not the other way around. This would explain the change in descriptions over the years as they are a reflection of current expectation not necessarily a valid sighting. So even a perfectly honest and credible person sees something weird and their brain instantly goes to a place maybe it should not have. In the endless mountains of sightings there's no doubt a majority of things like that.
In all that stupid Hudson Valley Wave hype I go on about there are two reports I can think of that made the news that do not fit the general expectation - one a green low level pyramid seen right near one of the grass strips the pilots used and the other a triangle type thing that affected the witnesses strangely - one of which showed up here on AE with a credible story.
.... and once in a while you have an insane radioactive prototype that goes wonky and makes you sick. Hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.
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Creepy Green Light
Silence = Deaf
I agree. Same thing with the mystery airships in the 1800's how they looked kind of like blimps with a gondola.
I also think the same thing about Betty & Barney Hill. IMO their made up story includes details of the saucer that had "winglets" on the edges of it and the aliens wearing ball caps.
Very 1950's-ish flying saucer details.
nivek
As Above So Below
Very much expected given the decade Betty and Barney had their encounter...To me it doesn't rule out their experience as being real, the mind filters things in this sort of way...
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Creepy Green Light
Silence = Deaf
True. But the aliens with the ball caps on? Reminds me of this;
Which interestingly enough came out before their abduction case.
Dejan Corovic
As above, so bellow
US developed a long line of so called mini nuclear reactor, because they wanted to use them on both spacecraft and on bombers. They were all given names of birds without wings, like Kiwi. Anyways, by the time of C.L. incident 5th generation of this mini nuclear reactor was ready, and probably USAF couldn't resist but to try to make pogo-stick type of aircraft prototype. Maybe that's why pogo-stick strayed off the perimeter of an AF base and into a view of the general public. And maybe that was why witnesses received such a high dose of radioactivity. Somebody said that a whole section of the road where incident happened was replaced with a new asphalt, again probably because it was radioactive.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
It filters both ways. I read (great name) Dr.Kirby Surprise's Synchronicity: The Art of Coincidence, Choice, and Unlocking Your Mind and in it he says that if we exhibit behavior evolution is responsible, at least at some level. He made a scenario with an early human stalking prey along with other predators and the need to watch for all sorts of subtle movements as a survival mechanism so you don't wind up on the menu. As a result our brains tend to fill in blanks when presented insufficient evidence. Those that did so effectively are our ancestors.
Filling in the blanks when confronted with the unexpected, especially something like a UFO is normal behavior and the interpretation subjective. For example bumps and noises in an old house do not mean it's haunted unless you decide it is. A bear in the woods suddenly on your trail might become a Sasquatch to some. We do it with entirely prosaic if unidentified aerial objects all too often and when they say that mistaken commercial planes and drones were responsible for some of the Jersey sightings I don't doubt it. At other times self proclaimed aviation experts all agreed that the road flares tied to balloon in Jersey were otherworldy craft. So if an actual High Strange object is witnessed how could anyone base it's veracity based on that description alone knowing it's likely entirely subjective ? Even if 100% accurate how useful is that information really ?
All too often these accounts are accepted verbatim as they support a pet theory or belief. If evaluating solely on eyewitness testimony I'd say a holistic approach is better. In that Hudson Valley Wave nonsense only one couple out of hundreds came forward to talk about a below-tree-level green pyramid that silently floated away, and at that I believe it was early on in the game before all the external influence. That would be a case I'd slide over into my own personal X file. Seeing a boomerang shaped set of lights in the sky - meh - but what the hell could you possibly confuse a floating green pyramid with? Again, even if 100% accurate how useful is that information really ?