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I thought about it why did he have a gun in the first place?
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As Above So Below
The far-left network that helped put Alex Pretti in harm's way, then made him a martyr
The skirmish that led to Saturday's fatal shooting of an agitator by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis and the response that followed were driven by a complex network of far-left organizations with a wide range of causes, a Fox News Digital investigation found. A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE "Abductors" in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Pretti was killed minutes before any shots were fired. ICE and Border Patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal, and Pretti and others were there, outside a donut shop, to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with law enforcement operations.Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. While grief and outrage over Pretti's death is genuine, the network's real-time rapid response, using short sensational video clips and emojis as weapons of propaganda, offers a window into the disciplined logistics, messaging and coordination of far-left warriors fomenting insurgency-like confrontation with authorities.
"This level of engineered chaos is unique to Minneapolis. It is the direct consequence of far left agitators, working with local authorities," Vice President JD Vance observed in a Sunday post on X.
The encrypted Signal messages obtained by Fox News Digital in real time show that anti-ICE "rapid responders" were actively tracking, broadcasting and summoning "backup" around federal agents outside Glam Doll Donuts on Nicollet Avenue, where the shooting happened. Local "rapid responders" made at least 26 entries into a database called "MN ICE Plates" in the critical hours before and after the killing, documenting the license plate numbers and details of alleged ICE vehicles they claimed to see around Nicollet Avenue.
The entry at row 344 read, "At the nicollet [sic] murder," chronicling a black Jeep Wagoneer at the location with agents allegedly "involved in shooting." Row 338 had a "Glam Doll Donuts" entry, tracking a black Ford Taurus. At 9:50 a.m. ET, just before the killing, a user identified as "Willow" shared a 22-second video on an encrypted Signal chat for anti-ICE "rapid responders."
"26and 3rd," wrote "Willow," quickly following up with, "Outside Glam Doll."
The video showed two agents, one wearing a vest marked "POLICE," studying the front door of Glam Doll before walking away, past a sign in the window that read, "ICE OUT OF MINNESOTA." As the camera rolled, the person filming yelled, "No!" The camera followed the agents as they returned to a maroon Dodge Durango, passing another sign in the window that read, "ALL WELCOME HERE."
In the video, someone shouted, "Get out of here!" Just three minutes later, at 9:53 a.m. ET, a second Signal user, "Salacious B. Crumb," escalated the alert, summoning additional responders and citing the same vehicle and agents. "Backup needed at the Black Forest Inn parking lot on Nicollet Ave just south of 26th Street," the message read.
"Multiple vehicles with many agents appear to be staging there," the alert continued. "One confirmed ICE vehicle seen was a maroon Dodge Durango [plate number], but it has driven away northbound on Nicollet." Fox News Digital has redacted the Florida license plate number included in the original message.
ICE Assistant Director Marcos Charles said Sunday that the violence on the streets was "not a coincidence," considering the "chaos and mayhem" that agitators are fomenting in Minneapolis. At the same press conference, Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) Commander-at-Large Greg Bovino confirmed that Pretti was "on the scene several minutes" before the fatal shooting. Video of the scene shows that as Pretti stepped into the middle of Nicollet Avenue to direct traffic, fellow agitators could be heard blowing whistles to alert locals that ICE officers were around. Soon after, Pretti ended up in a street confrontation with CBP agents, across the street from Glam Doll Donuts outside a worn storefront marked "NEW AMERICAN DEVELOPMENT CENTER," a nonprofit focused on immigration entry programs for Somalis.
Within minutes, at about 10:05 a.m. ET, at least one CBP agent shot Pretti, killing him.
At 10:18 a.m. ET, the Signal network erupted.
Using a red phone emoji to signal an all-points alert, a message blasted out: "
easy. URGENT: observers urgently requested at glam doll donuts @ 26th & nicollet [sic]," the alert continued. "an observer has been shot by ice, unknown condition, emts [emergency medical technicians] present, please be safe. EDIT: medics requested to join perimeter in case agents start gassing. be aware there are many agents and mpd [Minneapolis Police Department] officers present."Within minutes, far-left activists descended on Nicollet Avenue. Soon after, a video showed corrugated boxes of supplies apparently lined up on a Minneapolis sidewalk for protesters, including boxes marked "DESINER MASKS" [sic] and "FREE WINTER HATS," next to piles of bottled water. Within hours, socialist leaders turbocharged their "rapid responders" in Minneapolis and mobilized street protesters from New York City to Los Angeles.
Media outlets, including CNN and MSNOW, described "angry protesters" but failed to identify the ideological networks behind the mobilization, even as protesters flashed their signs with their logos and names, touting socialism, communism and Marxism, on camera. The Minneapolis activation marked the beginning of an almost instantaneous weekend surge by far-left organizations, including hardened socialist and communist groups operating in an ecosystem that national security experts describe as an insurgent-style operation designed to exploit tragedy to wage a domestic political war.
The strategy mirrors past mobilizations, including the aftermath of George Floyd’s killing in May 2020, and exploits well-intentioned public sympathy by rapidly framing Pretti — an intensive care unit nurse at a Veterans Administration hospital — as a symbol of resistance, much like Renee Good, the first victim of an ICE shooting in Minneapolis. Just as they responded in real-time to mobilize "comrades" to march on the streets within 12 hours of the U.S. arrest of Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro in early January, socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist groups now frame their activation as an action within the "belly of the beast" against the "hyperimperialism" of the United States.
Based on a digital analysis of scores of rapid-response messages following the killing on Saturday, a hub of communist and socialist nonprofit organizations emerged as key organizers of the protests. Many of them are funded by American-born billionaire Neville Roy Singham, a self-declared Marxist-Leninist living in Shanghai. Some are also offshoots of the People’s Forum Inc., a nonprofit hub Singham has funded in New York City since 2017 as an "incubator" for socialist and communist groups. The People's Forum declined requests for comment.
At 10:48 a.m. ET, BreakThrough News, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and propaganda arm of the People’s Forum, broke the news widely of the killing, sharing a video recorded from inside the Glam Doll Donut shot of the tussle outside, punctuated by gunshots and frantic narration, "Holy s--t. What the f---!...Did they f---ing kill that guy? F---ing kidding me, dude."
BreakThrough News put a dramatic black-and-white caption over the video: "BREAKING: Another CBP Shooting in Minneapolis." By Sunday afternoon, the video had 4.1 million views, alongside the outlet’s calls to support the People’s Republic of China, Venezuela’s Maduro and the communist revolution in Cuba.
Before the video cuts off, someone can be heard saying, "Yo, we need people on site!"
At 11:40 a.m., BreakThrough News broadcast a 39-second video purporting to show state police charging across a street with batons, some falling as clouds of breath rose in the cold air.
Soon after, at 12:24 p.m., the Party for Socialism and Liberation – a political wing of the movement, working with shared leadership at the People’s Forum – published a quickly-made graphic, "CBP MURDERS ANOTHER IN MINNEAPOLIS," and the message, "EXPAND THE GENERAL STRIKE!"
The call for a "general strike," a classic communist tactic, refers to coordinated mass work stoppages aimed at paralyzing civil society to force political – and economic – outcomes. At 12:33 p.m., the People’s Forum blasted out a bold red-and-white poster to followers, calling for an "EMERGENCY PROTEST" at 4 p.m. ET at Union Square in midtown Manhattan, with the message, "STOP ICE TERROR."
In lockstep, at 12:57 p.m., Democratic Socialists of America, the 501(c)(3) nonprofit that elected Zohran Mamdani as mayor of New York City, posted a stark black-and-white graphic on X, calling the killing an "execution" and demanding, "ABOLISH ICE NOW."
At the protest, Linda Sarsour, a Palestinian political operative who has led virulently anti-Israel protests with socialist organizations after the Oct. 7, 2023, attack against Israel by Hamas terrorists, rallied the crowd at the 4 p.m. protest, yelling, "We will bring this country to a halt!" The People’s Forum shared the 22-second video clip with the caption: "HAPPENING NOW IN NYC." Other groups mobilized simultaneously, including Freedom Road Socialist Organization, a self-described Marxist-Leninist group that has waved its red flag with its acronym, "FRSO," in the middle of the protests since Good’s killing.
By early evening, the narrative had coalesced into a chorus of voices within the far-left propaganda apparatus, adopting charged historical language to brand federal officials as Nazi-like figures. At 4:12 p.m. ET, Calla Walsh, a controversial communist activist filmed this past summer in Iran shouting, "Death to America! Death to Israel!" shared a 32-second video showing barricades built with Republic Services dumpsters.
She wrote, "People of Minneapolis build barricades, trapping ICE Gestapo at the scene of their latest murder in broad daylight. Not far from where they killed Renee Good a couple weeks ago, not far from where George Floyd was killed in 2020."
By evening, CNN was reporting from the 4 p.m. protest in New York City but did not identify the ideological affiliations of the organizers, even as activists openly carried signs from the Party for Socialism and Liberation, with the group’s full name printed across the bottom.
Another CNN segment from Minneapolis interviewed Chris Gray, describing him only as Pretti’s "next-door neighbor." Gray spoke about Pretti while delivering a well-scripted appeal for a general strike to dismantle the "Trump regime" and promote "non-violent resistance." The segment did not disclose that Gray is a member of Socialist Alternative, the U.S. affiliate of the International Socialist Alternative, a "global fighting organization of workers, young people, and all those oppressed by capitalism and imperialism," seeking to create a "socialist world."
Soon after, however, Socialist Alternative shared the interview proudly on Instagram, noting, "Chris Gray, Socialist Alternative member and next-door neighbor of Alex Pretti, speaks out."
By evening’s end, at 9:44 p.m. ET, Gloria La Riva, a co-founder of the Party for Socialism and Liberation who has described herself as "a communist," posted a message on X, using the inflammatory language now normalized: "Alex Pretti was murdered in cold blood, everyone knows that. 10 shots in his back. All of Trump's, Noem's, Bovino's lies cannot cover it up. The people's struggle will only grow!"
The maroon Dodge Durango in the early Signal alerts from Saturday morning is Entry No. 2069 in the publicly shared database, "MN ICE PLATES." It included a gallery of photos of alleged ICE vehicles.
At last count on Sunday, the database had 4,626 records of license plate numbers organized as "Highly Suspected ICE," "Confirmed ICE," "Suspected ICE," "Cleared – Not ICE" and "Unknown."
The total number of "Confirmed ICE" entries is 2,933 records. The total number of records labeled "Abductors" is 455.
A fine-print disclaimer states that the data is "for informational purposes only" and that its organizers "do not condone its use to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede or interfere with the official duties of any officer or employee of the United States, or of any agency in any branch of the United States Government, while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties."
The maroon Dodge Durango that was allegedly outside Glam Doll Donuts on Nicollet Avenue is listed with three prior sightings: Jan. 11 at 3 p.m. at the Whipple federal detention facility, Jan. 13 at 1:15 p.m. and a final sighting at Powderhorn Park parking lot on 35th Street and 14th Avenue.
It’s listed with the tags, "Seen in a convoy, Tinted/blacked-out windows, ICE agent(s) seen in vehicle," and a final verdict: "Confirmed ICE."
As socialist organizations continued to dispatch their foot soldiers to Nicollet Avenue on Sunday evening, the Signal groups were as active as ever on Sunday, an alert going out at 4:37 p.m. ET, with rapid responders now chasing a black Dodge Durango around town.
"2 confirmed ICE vehicles," the alert read, "...at least 2 agents in each vehicle."
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The shadow
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Why did he have the gun?
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
It'll probably be judged a valid use of deadly force. You'd think an ER nurse would have some understanding of gun violence, enough to maybe not carry one into a situation he clearly intended to insert himself into.
I read that Tom Homan is being sent to MN to do whatever it is he does. Apparently CPB and ICE are at odds with DHS and Kristi Noem the self absorbed dog shooter. They are focused on illegals who are criminals, she seems focused on all illegals. And earrings, lots of big gaudy earrings.
Tim Walz just suggested that DOJ concentrate on the millions of Epstein files it 'has yet to release'. Oh Christ, that's rich. Just what we're worried about right now. Tim has made sure the boys of Minnesota have access to all the tampons they need in school bathrooms because, you know, that makes total sense. He was also perfectly willing to deploy the National Guard against American citizens to enforce a draconian covid lockdown but couldn't imagine doing so to quell rioting. That might've worked and then what would distract us from all that welfare fraud?
He reminds me a little of Gold Bar Bob Menendez, at least in terms of the absolute nonsense he spews. Ballsy.
I read that Tom Homan is being sent to MN to do whatever it is he does. Apparently CPB and ICE are at odds with DHS and Kristi Noem the self absorbed dog shooter. They are focused on illegals who are criminals, she seems focused on all illegals. And earrings, lots of big gaudy earrings.
Tim Walz just suggested that DOJ concentrate on the millions of Epstein files it 'has yet to release'. Oh Christ, that's rich. Just what we're worried about right now. Tim has made sure the boys of Minnesota have access to all the tampons they need in school bathrooms because, you know, that makes total sense. He was also perfectly willing to deploy the National Guard against American citizens to enforce a draconian covid lockdown but couldn't imagine doing so to quell rioting. That might've worked and then what would distract us from all that welfare fraud?
He reminds me a little of Gold Bar Bob Menendez, at least in terms of the absolute nonsense he spews. Ballsy.
Rick Hunter
Celestial
Here's my take on both of the Minnesota incidents from a simple action and reaction perspective, not taking anyone's side. Law enforcement agents are trained to use violent means when necessary to do their job, and they carry a variety of tools to do so. When you interfere with them, even if you deem the manner to be non-violent and/or legal, you increase the likelihood that they will respond to your actions with violence many times over. There is also more than enough evidence to show that some (but certainly not all) people in law enforcement relish the opportunity to engage in violence and are quite willing to do so upon minimal provocation. They may even secretly view it as a big perk of the job. These facts should be obvious to anyone with minimal reasoning skills.
With that being said, if you confront or interfere with law enforcement there is no way to know whether they will respond with words, pepper spray, or bullets. You make the choice and deal with the consequences. High minded notions about free speech and justice, while important, will not shield you. Same principle as, if you voluntarily jump into the tiger cage at the zoo, don't complain when you get eaten.
With that being said, if you confront or interfere with law enforcement there is no way to know whether they will respond with words, pepper spray, or bullets. You make the choice and deal with the consequences. High minded notions about free speech and justice, while important, will not shield you. Same principle as, if you voluntarily jump into the tiger cage at the zoo, don't complain when you get eaten.
Rick Hunter
Celestial
I watched the video of the Pretti incident and the scene beforehand, and listened to some podcasters who I have always found to be pretty level. Nothing that I saw Pretti do justified deadly force, and the agents were winning the fight the entire time. I observed them clearly striking him in anger beyond the need to protect themselves while he was already on the ground after being peppersprayed. I didn't see anything to indicate Pretti ever reached for his gun. One agent removed Pretti's gun from its holster and then inexplicably sprinted away, then the shooting started while Pretti's hands were in front of his body probably trying to protect his face and chest from more strikes and pepperspray. The agents who shot him are guilty of manslaughter at minimum, they have no excuse.
But, the self-styled communist and socialist agitators who were active in Minneapolis are equally guilty here, even if not in an indictable sense. They openly and flagrantly encouraged people who had good intentions like Pretti to engage in very dangerous behavior. And I guarantee none of them feel bad about using Pretti's death to advance their own agendas. In true communist fashion, they don't care about the individual lives that will be ended or ruined in order to bring about the societal changes that they want. And they will just continue to do so. Do these people really think they are better and more virtuous than the regime that kept people inside the Deutsche Democratic Republic with the Berlin Wall, land mines, and guards instructed to shoot first and ask questions later? Or North Korea which still operates concentration camps to this day?
But, the self-styled communist and socialist agitators who were active in Minneapolis are equally guilty here, even if not in an indictable sense. They openly and flagrantly encouraged people who had good intentions like Pretti to engage in very dangerous behavior. And I guarantee none of them feel bad about using Pretti's death to advance their own agendas. In true communist fashion, they don't care about the individual lives that will be ended or ruined in order to bring about the societal changes that they want. And they will just continue to do so. Do these people really think they are better and more virtuous than the regime that kept people inside the Deutsche Democratic Republic with the Berlin Wall, land mines, and guards instructed to shoot first and ask questions later? Or North Korea which still operates concentration camps to this day?
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Watch the video at the end documenting a previous encounter with this individual. I can't believe they had him on the ground and didn't take that pistol away from him. Amateurs.
Alex Pretti appears to spit at ICE, kick out tail light in previous Minneapolis confrontation before he was shot by Border Patrol
By
Anna Young
Published Jan. 28, 2026
Updated Jan. 28, 2026, 9:49 p.m. ET
Disturbing new footage shows Alex Pretti armed, spitting at federal immigration officers and smashing the taillights of their black SUV during a chaotic clash more than a week before he was fatally shot by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis.
The video, which the BBC said it has verified, captured the ICU nurse yelling at agents while they were driving away during a heated Jan. 13 protest before booting the back of the car, prompting them to jump out and tackle him to the ground, according to footage from The News Movement.
The man — who was wearing similar clothing in the video to what Pretti had on when he was fatally shot last Saturday — was taken to the ground by at least five agents, who deployed tear gas into the whistle-blowing crowd during the wild confrontation.
The horde of agents continued to hold him down until he retreated and joined the raucous crowd in shouting at the agents — with a gun visibly tucked into the back of his pants.
Homeland Security Investigations is “reviewing” the newest footage of the 37-year-old’s apparent prior brush with federal agents, the Department of Homeland Security told The Post.
A spokesperson for Pretti’s devastated family and the family’s attorney have verified that the man in the video is Pretti, the Minnesota Star Tribune reported.
“A week before Alex was gunned down in the street — despite posing no threat to anyone — he was violently assaulted by a group of ICE agents,” Pretti family attorney Steve Schleicher said in a statement to The Post.
“Nothing that happened a full week before could possibly have justified Alex’s killing at the hands of ICE on Jan. 24.”
Pretti was apparently known to federal authorities and had suffered a broken rib during the violent confrontation with agents 11 days before his death, CNN reported Tuesday.
Federal immigration officers had documented details about Pretti, along with other anti-ICE protesters in Minneapolis in recent weeks, according to the outlet.
Pretti also had a handgun, which he had a license to carry, when he confronted Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis last Saturday. Federal officers pulled the loaded Sig Sauer pistol from his waistband before firing at least 10 shots at him while he was pinned to the ground.
DHS investigators believe an errant round from Pretti’s own pistol — after it was taken from — may have prompted Border Patrol agents to open fire.
The deadly caught-on-camera incident erupted when he wedged himself between a female protester and ICE officers, and was tackled and disarmed by Border Patrol before two agents shot him dead in the scuffle.
The two federal immigration officers who fired their weapons at Pretti have been placed on administrative leave, standard protocol for agents involved in a shooting, Department of Homeland Security officials confirmed Wednesday.
Neither has been identified.
Pretti’s death was the second shooting involving federal immigration officers in Minnesota in less than three weeks, during the Trump administration’s massive roundup of illegal migrants in the North Star state.
On Jan. 7, ICE agent Jonathan Ross shot and killed 37-year-old mother of three Renee Good after federal authorities said she rammed her car into the officer.
Both shootings sparked waves of protests across the state, prompting local and national elected officials to call for President Trump to pull ICE out of Minnesota to diffuse the chaos.
Alex Pretti appears to spit at ICE, kick out tail light in previous Minneapolis confrontation before he was shot by Border Patrol
By
Anna Young
Published Jan. 28, 2026
Updated Jan. 28, 2026, 9:49 p.m. ET
Disturbing new footage shows Alex Pretti armed, spitting at federal immigration officers and smashing the taillights of their black SUV during a chaotic clash more than a week before he was fatally shot by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis.
The video, which the BBC said it has verified, captured the ICU nurse yelling at agents while they were driving away during a heated Jan. 13 protest before booting the back of the car, prompting them to jump out and tackle him to the ground, according to footage from The News Movement.
The man — who was wearing similar clothing in the video to what Pretti had on when he was fatally shot last Saturday — was taken to the ground by at least five agents, who deployed tear gas into the whistle-blowing crowd during the wild confrontation.
The horde of agents continued to hold him down until he retreated and joined the raucous crowd in shouting at the agents — with a gun visibly tucked into the back of his pants.
Homeland Security Investigations is “reviewing” the newest footage of the 37-year-old’s apparent prior brush with federal agents, the Department of Homeland Security told The Post.
A spokesperson for Pretti’s devastated family and the family’s attorney have verified that the man in the video is Pretti, the Minnesota Star Tribune reported.
“A week before Alex was gunned down in the street — despite posing no threat to anyone — he was violently assaulted by a group of ICE agents,” Pretti family attorney Steve Schleicher said in a statement to The Post.
“Nothing that happened a full week before could possibly have justified Alex’s killing at the hands of ICE on Jan. 24.”
Pretti was apparently known to federal authorities and had suffered a broken rib during the violent confrontation with agents 11 days before his death, CNN reported Tuesday.
Federal immigration officers had documented details about Pretti, along with other anti-ICE protesters in Minneapolis in recent weeks, according to the outlet.
Pretti also had a handgun, which he had a license to carry, when he confronted Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis last Saturday. Federal officers pulled the loaded Sig Sauer pistol from his waistband before firing at least 10 shots at him while he was pinned to the ground.
DHS investigators believe an errant round from Pretti’s own pistol — after it was taken from — may have prompted Border Patrol agents to open fire.
The deadly caught-on-camera incident erupted when he wedged himself between a female protester and ICE officers, and was tackled and disarmed by Border Patrol before two agents shot him dead in the scuffle.
The two federal immigration officers who fired their weapons at Pretti have been placed on administrative leave, standard protocol for agents involved in a shooting, Department of Homeland Security officials confirmed Wednesday.
Neither has been identified.
Pretti’s death was the second shooting involving federal immigration officers in Minnesota in less than three weeks, during the Trump administration’s massive roundup of illegal migrants in the North Star state.
On Jan. 7, ICE agent Jonathan Ross shot and killed 37-year-old mother of three Renee Good after federal authorities said she rammed her car into the officer.
Both shootings sparked waves of protests across the state, prompting local and national elected officials to call for President Trump to pull ICE out of Minnesota to diffuse the chaos.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
This makes me sick.
The larger context here is the Left's extremely violent rhetoric amplified by utterly coopted piss poor media. When Trump got shot they cheered, when Charlie Kirk got shot they cheered. That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the hidous things that have been posted - everyone has their own global platform to spew dangerous vitriol. Imagine the response if various social media outlets became glutted with right wing people saying they are happy Pretti was killed, they hope more are, say it's OK to get as violent as you like and maybe even shoot them yourselves, provide instructions and organization to do so etc.
Good example here, one of many: Florida nurse fired after her TikTok video wishes pain for Trump's press secretary
The state and local leaders in Minnesota instantly went to DefCon 1 declared their intent to fight and got quite nasty right out of the gate. Had they allowed local police to provide support that man might very well still be alive. Their jobs are to provide for public safety and they had the means to do so and didn't because of political opinion. You'd think if ICE officers were as despicable as they claim they might prefer to protect their citizens rather than constantly provoke them to violence. The people who cheered assassinations are privately cheering these two shootings as they added more fuel to the fire they deliberately set. The political optics are the only agenda.
This man wasn't shot and killed in a vacuum, everyone has blood on their hands at this point. Fetterman's a pariah for even suggesting calm and reason which tells me those things are simply not on the menu. You can't keep screaming about Hitler and Nazis and Gestapo and figuratively yelling FIRE at the top of your lungs all day in a crowded theater without some sort of consequences. Yet the Left accepting any fault whatsoever for this situation is unheard of, the most violent and inflammatory rhetoric is considered acceptable. Which side exactly is condoning violence?
The larger context here is the Left's extremely violent rhetoric amplified by utterly coopted piss poor media. When Trump got shot they cheered, when Charlie Kirk got shot they cheered. That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the hidous things that have been posted - everyone has their own global platform to spew dangerous vitriol. Imagine the response if various social media outlets became glutted with right wing people saying they are happy Pretti was killed, they hope more are, say it's OK to get as violent as you like and maybe even shoot them yourselves, provide instructions and organization to do so etc.
Good example here, one of many: Florida nurse fired after her TikTok video wishes pain for Trump's press secretary
The state and local leaders in Minnesota instantly went to DefCon 1 declared their intent to fight and got quite nasty right out of the gate. Had they allowed local police to provide support that man might very well still be alive. Their jobs are to provide for public safety and they had the means to do so and didn't because of political opinion. You'd think if ICE officers were as despicable as they claim they might prefer to protect their citizens rather than constantly provoke them to violence. The people who cheered assassinations are privately cheering these two shootings as they added more fuel to the fire they deliberately set. The political optics are the only agenda.
This man wasn't shot and killed in a vacuum, everyone has blood on their hands at this point. Fetterman's a pariah for even suggesting calm and reason which tells me those things are simply not on the menu. You can't keep screaming about Hitler and Nazis and Gestapo and figuratively yelling FIRE at the top of your lungs all day in a crowded theater without some sort of consequences. Yet the Left accepting any fault whatsoever for this situation is unheard of, the most violent and inflammatory rhetoric is considered acceptable. Which side exactly is condoning violence?
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nivek
As Above So Below
Idiot protesters swarm Los Angeles restaurant after mistaking airport security workers for ICE... then offer jaw-dropping excuse
A large mob of protestors surrounded a restaurant in Los Angeles after mistaking airport security workers for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. The demonstrators gathered outside of Ten-Raku, a Korean BBQ spot in Lynwood, on Wednesday night after hearing reports that federal officers were allegedly inside.In reality, they blared airhorns and whistles and shouted at off-duty TSA officers who were just trying to enjoy dinner, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office told the Daily Mail. When confronted about mistaking the airport staff for ICE, one irate demonstrator gave the excuse that people get 'emotional' and make 'mistakes,' noting that ICE does the same when they arrest people.
The heated ordeal in the parking lot of Ten-Raku comes after weeks of heightened outrage at Trump's immigration and detention policies across the country. Wednesday's intense scene was eventually calmed after sheriff's deputies arrived - and the confused airport workers were safely escorted out of the restaurant. No injuries or arrests were reported during the noisy ordeal, according to police.
(More on the link)
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Rick Hunter
Celestial
The biggest thing that worries me is when the Left manages to elect their own version of Trump, 'cause you know its going to happen at some point.
Rick Hunter
Celestial
Watch the video at the end documenting a previous encounter with this individual. I can't believe they had him on the ground and didn't take that pistol away from him. Amateurs.
Alex Pretti appears to spit at ICE, kick out tail light in previous Minneapolis confrontation before he was shot by Border Patrol
By
Anna Young
Published Jan. 28, 2026
Updated Jan. 28, 2026, 9:49 p.m. ET
Disturbing new footage shows Alex Pretti armed, spitting at federal immigration officers and smashing the taillights of their black SUV during a chaotic clash more than a week before he was fatally shot by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis.
The video, which the BBC said it has verified, captured the ICU nurse yelling at agents while they were driving away during a heated Jan. 13 protest before booting the back of the car, prompting them to jump out and tackle him to the ground, according to footage from The News Movement.
The man — who was wearing similar clothing in the video to what Pretti had on when he was fatally shot last Saturday — was taken to the ground by at least five agents, who deployed tear gas into the whistle-blowing crowd during the wild confrontation.
The horde of agents continued to hold him down until he retreated and joined the raucous crowd in shouting at the agents — with a gun visibly tucked into the back of his pants.
Homeland Security Investigations is “reviewing” the newest footage of the 37-year-old’s apparent prior brush with federal agents, the Department of Homeland Security told The Post.
A spokesperson for Pretti’s devastated family and the family’s attorney have verified that the man in the video is Pretti, the Minnesota Star Tribune reported.
“A week before Alex was gunned down in the street — despite posing no threat to anyone — he was violently assaulted by a group of ICE agents,” Pretti family attorney Steve Schleicher said in a statement to The Post.
“Nothing that happened a full week before could possibly have justified Alex’s killing at the hands of ICE on Jan. 24.”
Pretti was apparently known to federal authorities and had suffered a broken rib during the violent confrontation with agents 11 days before his death, CNN reported Tuesday.
Federal immigration officers had documented details about Pretti, along with other anti-ICE protesters in Minneapolis in recent weeks, according to the outlet.
Pretti also had a handgun, which he had a license to carry, when he confronted Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis last Saturday. Federal officers pulled the loaded Sig Sauer pistol from his waistband before firing at least 10 shots at him while he was pinned to the ground.
DHS investigators believe an errant round from Pretti’s own pistol — after it was taken from — may have prompted Border Patrol agents to open fire.
Could it be that his P320 had an "uncommanded discharge" at the worst possible time?
nivek
As Above So Below
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
ICE (among many others) recently stopped using that model for that exact reason.
These things do happen even among high end manufacturers. Remember the HK P7 squeeze cockers? Or the original Glock tupperware?
Rick Hunter
Celestial
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know!
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AD1184
Celestial
What do you make of claims in the Economist magazine that there is not such a large density of illegals in Minnesota, so ICE's strong presence there is not rational to the end of deporting as many illegals as quickly as possible. Rather, they claim, it is about playing politics.
nivek
As Above So Below
Could you post that Economist article as I have not read it...If they are quoting social media sources it seems their data is almost three years old...
Fact check: Does Minnesota have fewer illegal immigrants than other US states?
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nivek
As Above So Below
Violent mob swarms federal detention center as LA protests spiral out of control
Los Angeles police arrested multiple violent agitators after issuing dispersal orders as protests erupted across the city Friday evening. Thousands of protesters met in front of City Hall in the afternoon, before many marched to the federal detention center, where a mob of violent agitators swarmed the area, pushing a large construction dumpster and blocking the entrance to the building's loading dock.LAPD shared video on social media of the unrest, adding in a separate post that authorities had deployed pepper balls and tear gas to disperse the crowd. "We had hoped that demonstrations today would be peaceful, however, as you can see in this video, the violent agitators invited LAPD due to their actions," the department wrote.
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass said during a news conference Friday evening that five arrests had been made for failure to disperse. LAPD did not immediately confirm how many individuals had been arrested. LAPD said one person was arrested after allegedly using a slingshot to fire hard metal objects at officers.
The unrest came as cities across the country took part in "ICE Out Everywhere" protests in the wake of the shooting deaths of Alex Pretti and Renee Good involving federal agents in Minneapolis. Bass cautioned protesters rallying against the Trump administration's immigration crackdown to remain peaceful, arguing that violent unrest was counterproductive.
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