humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
its called common sense, people believe in authorities not in mr nobodies
yeah, and?
we the public will never believe in anything those shills tell us
we the public will never believe in anything those shills tell us
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
So I'll take that as a "no." I've never seen a physics PhD participate in a PsyOp against the people and neither have you - reputable people protect their reputations because they work their entire lives to establish them.
And the evidence resoundingly refutes your "common sense" assertion. Richard Doty is a nobody, and he's a disinformation operative. Bob Lazar - another unqualified nobody who was recruited to spread disinformation, imo. Disinformation operations are sleazy and nasty, and again and again we've seen that nobodies are right in the middle of them, because they have nothing to lose.
There have been a couple of rabid skeptics who have attacked ufology, but in those cases they really seemed to honestly hate the idea of alien visitation, so they were just speaking their minds, which is an entirely different matter. Condon, for example.
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that Eric Davis or Hal Puthoff or Lue Elizondo are shills? Take your time; I'll wait.
The funny thing about all these conspiracy theories bubbling up around this story, is that our government (the intelligence agencies in particular) conducts all kinds of nefarious PsyOps all the time - but people totally miss that stuff, which is actually happening. And yet when some honest and brave people come forward with confirmation of exotic phenomena that we've all been studying for many years, they call that a conspiracy. A conspiracy to tell us the truth that we've all been shouting from the rooftops for years - how does that work? It doesn't: it's an absurd accusation, based on nothing but pathological levels of paranoia.
When the Deep State lies to us, it's for reasons that benefit them, not us. "WMDs in Iraq" - that lie was to get us into an insane war for purely profit-driven reasons. "Qaddafi needs to be overthrown immediately" - that lie was used to make us complacent about the destruction of Libya because the Gold Dinar would've threatened the PetroDollar system that the Federal Reserve makes trillions of dollars on. "Assad used chemical weapons against his own people" that lie (three times now) was used to escalate our illegal regime change operation in Syria because they too have challenged the PetroDollar system, plus the US and Russia are competing over pipelines through Syria. Disinformation operations involve lies that are used to manipulate the public to support insane and murderous foreign policies and stuff like that.
Disinformation operations never involve telling the people the truth, like "yes we are encountering anomalous aerial devices in our skies and we have been for decades." This kind of thing is more like a leak, but in this case, they're doing it legally. We should be sending flowers to these people instead of attacking them over totally imaginary and nonsensical conspiracy theories born of nothing but paranoia and a gross failure to exercise even basic logic.
Apparently somebody got an aggressive form of brain cancer shortly after some kind of close encounter with alien technology: yikes.
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humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
just because we haven't seen it yet, doesnt means it will not happen
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
GOV contractor = shill
this isn't the truth, i ahve researched the phenomena and reached the same conclusion as jacques vallee and john keel
false disclosure is the next ruse, if they reveal that we are dealing with aliens, nobody will ask anything else and case closed
i find it weird he put that in a completely random corner at his website
Omg. That's like saying "I've never seen a unicorn eating my carrot patch but that doesn't mean it will not happen."
I'm just being hyperbolic to clarify the point: empirical reasoning is based on evidence - that's why the "empirical" is in there. If you can't provide any empirical evidence for an argument, then it's a rubbish argument. This is how we discern "meaningful rational arguments" from "fanciful and misguided nonsense." You're promoting fanciful and misguided nonsense, so you should stop doing that - you're doing a disservice to your fellow man.
That's so obviously and childishly erroneous and simplistic that I'm embarrassed for you. Those are two totally different things. Some of the most respectable and capable people in this country are government contractors.
Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.
You're just angry that the evidence and testimony of eyewitnesses consistently refutes your "extradimensional ultraterrestrial hypothesis," and you're willing to slander good people in order to defend it. Shame on you.
In fact you're attacking an ally and you don't even know it because you didn't hear the interview that we're talking about here. Dr. Davis affirmed the connection between AAVs and other paranormal phenomena, and even posited some intriguing ideas about higher-dimensional engineering. You would've loved that stuff. He attributes this technology and these phenomena to non-terrestrial intelligences, but what he said verifies a lot of what you've talked about in other regards. So you're taking pot-shots at somebody who confirms a lot your own points, and actually worked with Jacques Vallee on data analysis. Sad.
...so it must be a conspiracy then... 0.o
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humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
that isnt a plausible thing, powerfull people doing a psy-op is
the perfect people to use as shills
whatever
truth is a hard thing to grasp
this doesnt makes sense when he talked about the ufo crashes
or a joke to fool believers
nivek
As Above So Below
Sigh...Where does one even begin with this discombobulation, okay at the top I suppose, so yes its common sense for anyone reading here to see the posting style of a dis-information agent on a forum, because you have given us a perfect example of diversion, distraction, and disconnected random nonsense...
Apologies, but to me you are arguing for the sake of arguing, you have provide not one iota of anything to back your opinion, which is not surprising, truth seems hard for you to grasp in this case, you would rather twist and grind anything to make it fit your view...
Did you even listen to Coast to Coast and hear Eric Davis speak last night?...Have you ever listened to Eric Davis speak at all?...It was a damn good show and very informative for those who really want to find out the truth...
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humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
i am arguing because i want to get my point across and show people the reality behind the ufo phenomena
i dont wanna spend my money on anything
nivek
As Above So Below
I suggest instead of arguing post relevant material to back your point...
Radio is free...
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humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
the only thing that i need to say is that this is identical to what richard doty did, and also everthing about the roswell crash points to a balloon
Toroid
Founding Member
So...when the government claims that an event was not extraterrestrial in nature, you accept it without question or suspicion...because that supports your bias in favor of the unintelligible "extradimensional ultraterrestrial" hypothesis.
But when anyone connected to the government in any way, states that the craft being reported are extraterrestrial vehicles, then you attack them viciously because that contradicts your unintelligible "extradimensional ultraterrestrial" hypothesis:
So in just the last few posts that you've made here in this thread, you've revealed the hypocrisy and complete logical inconsistency of your own thought process, and your fundamental disregard for the truth. Instead, you're 100% committed to pushing your "extradimensional ultraterrestrial" hypothesis regardless of the facts and logic. Btw, the phrase "extradimensional ultraterrestrial" doesn't actually have any real meaning; the phrase "abracadabra nikto" holds the same level of meaning - it's just made-up gibberish.
Ergo, everything you have to say is suspect, because you've just proven that your only interest is in shilling for the "extradimensional ultraterrestrial hypothesis," which is just a made-up nonsensical phrase in the first place.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
at first i thought the GOV was lying yet again and then i saw the original reports (not the disinfo ones that appeared in 70's and 80's) wich pretty much described the debris field of balloon. note that it could be a japanese manned fugo balloon too wich could explain the cover up, but its certianly no UFO
again please use criticism after seeing the book
indeed i do, because that usually means disinfo
have a nice chat with me and you will see how everthing works
again please use criticisms later
Toroid
Founding Member
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nivek
As Above So Below
Michael Horn should never have been given a spotlight on Coast to Coast AM, such a pathetic individual form my conversations with him and the whole Billy Meier prophecies fiasco is a total sham and scam...
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Toroid
Founding Member
Wasn't he a member of Alien-UFO's?