Conversations with Extraterrestrials

August

Metanoia
Not with creepy Aliens but a Dark elf I might.

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Kchoo

At Peace.
Not with creepy Aliens but a Dark elf I might.

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Interesting... Elf....Alien... is there a difference other than how we lable them?

But, my first question is simply, "Have you always been here, and if not, why are you here now?"
 

August

Metanoia
Interesting... Elf....Alien... is there a difference other than how we lable them?

But, my first question is simply, "Have you always been here, and if not, why are you here now?"

Is that a generalization or are you asking me personally ?
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Would anyone leave and go with the visitors if offered and knowing up front it may be a one way trip?...Leap of faith or would this be too big a leap?...

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If I were alone and the wife had passed on...yes I would go.
Much also would depend on who they are and where they come from...for me.
If they came from some planet way off in a far galaxy...perhaps not, but if from somewhere in our galaxy or especially from a neighboring world in the Multiverse...I would gladly leave with them.
 

spacecase0

earth human
I think my first question would be, 'how many other intelligent species have they discovered during their travels in the galaxy and what percentage of those are able to travel to different worlds?'...

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from what I have read, many others ask a similar question,
most replies I have seen are that they are the only aliens out there.
they appear to have no comments as to how many worlds like earth there are.
so I am pretty sure the ones saying that are lying, I just can't figure out why they would do that
 

spacecase0

earth human
Would anyone leave and go with the visitors if offered and knowing up front it may be a one way trip?...Leap of faith or would this be too big a leap?...

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even people in ancient stories will not leave with them. and they usually say it is because no one that does so ever comes back.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
even people in ancient stories will not leave with them. and they usually say it is because no one that does so ever comes back.

If you found and took a stray dog with you back to your home thousands of miles away and found out later its not happy and doesn't want to stay with you would you take it back thousands of miles away or find a new home for it somewhere else closer to home or just let it go to fend for itself?...

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spacecase0

earth human
If you found and took a stray dog with you back to your home thousands of miles away and found out later its not happy and doesn't want to stay with you would you take it back thousands of miles away or find a new home for it somewhere else closer to home or just let it go to fend for itself?...

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I have looked into reality for what it is.
think I have figured out how and where physics and shamen meet,
have posted all this info on the web....
if I am correct,
then it means that distance is not the issue.
and that once someone learns how it all works, then there is not much to limit what they can do
other than melting a few dream worlds in front of myself(with hardware I built in the dream worlds), not sure I will have good verification of this until after this brain I have is gone.
anyway,
if they take someone and drop them off somewhere else, then they don't really care about us.
still a good reason not to go with them.
I am reminded of my personal abduction experience with all this.
it started kind of like a dream, but was clearly not a dream.
my tip off as to what was going on was that "they" gave me pain. and I know pain very well,
the human body is no where near capable of the pain levels they gave me...
so,
it was pretty clear that I was not in my body (as the sensations I was getting are not possible here, so, I was somewhere else...),
thinking about this I went with the physics I had been looking into, odd physics, but could be true, so,
if something "melts reality" with hardware, my willpower is on the same playing ground as them...
anyway, a moment later the entire experience was ripped apart in front of me (by my will)
and not to long after I took apart the ones that had done it to me.
from stories I have been told and what I have read, what was after me is somewhat common, and likely most of the abduction stories.
but there seems to be hardware that gets past gravity and does not melt reality at the same time,
and looks like some encounters are because of that, very very rare, but some.
and if you go with them, maybe it is to long to get back here...
but they also don't have anything to teach us if that is the limit of the technology they have.
so no point in going with them.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
If you found and took a stray dog with you back to your home thousands of miles away and found out later its not happy and doesn't want to stay with you would you take it back thousands of miles away or find a new home for it somewhere else closer to home or just let it go to fend for itself?...

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If I was having actual conversations with it I think I'd probably bring Fido home. Maybe not right away, and we do live a lot longer .....
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
One of my favorite books as a kid. Always hoped something alien and interesting would come take me on an adventure. (The ones Uncle Bob seemed to want thankfully never made it my way ......)

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JahaRa

Noble
One of my favorite books as a kid. Always hoped something alien and interesting would come take me on an adventure. (The ones Uncle Bob seemed to want thankfully never made it my way ......)

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I loved that book too. I read a lot of Heinlein novels.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I loved that book too. I read a lot of Heinlein novels.

Yeah but underneath it all, especially reading his later stuff, he sounded like he had quite a few sexual hang-ups that bled through. It's the children-boinking that bothered me - or dancing around the edge of it anyway. Too much chatter about menarche and pooberty and .... ugh. Maybe for a 2000 year old it's OK but I think the average reader might've raised an eyebrow.

Oddly, that IS what Uncle Bob had in mind. Maybe he was just being progressive when he was waving his junk out the window at the school bus stop
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Would anyone leave and go with the visitors if offered and knowing up front it may be a one way trip?...Leap of faith or would this be too big a leap?...

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One would be ill-advised to leave with aliens.

There is a sinister backstory in a vast majority of UFO accounts where witnesses see human and animal body parts, or humans in cages, or even humans in glass cabinets filled with formalin. I would estimate that 90% of alien interest is scientific and that they simply see us as lab specimens. Cases of friendly aliens don't even make 10% of all accounts.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Dunno about lab specimens but look at it from ETs p.o.v.

I just read an account of Yuri Gagarin landing in a field after his historic flight. His capsule wasn't far away and to describe his arrival to the peasants on the collective farm as 'spectacular' would be putting it mildly. Good thing they thought to hand paint CCCP on his helmet just before the flight for exactly this reason. Fair chance he would've gotten his ass skewered just because he scared the living hell out of people who had zero frame of reference for what they saw. It came out of the sky indeed. (thanks again @August , it's a toe-tapper)

Using their technology to stay at arm's length while they examine us makes sense. I like to think that to them we're just those big nasties from The Galileo Seven. Go do your business some place where the local brutes don't chuck giant spears at you, or chase you with F-18s.
 
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JahaRa

Noble
One would be ill-advised to leave with aliens.

There is a sinister backstory in a vast majority of UFO accounts where witnesses see human and animal body parts, or humans in cages, or even humans in glass cabinets filled with formalin. I would estimate that 90% of alien interest is scientific and that they simply see us as lab specimens. Cases of friendly aliens don't even make 10% of all accounts.
I have read a lot of UFO and some abduction books and never read one that had any of those descriptions. What accounts are you referring to?
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I have read a lot of UFO and some abduction books and never read one that had any of those descriptions. What accounts are you referring to?

There is YT channel "Rich Planet" and it has a whole series of videos about NATO coverup of human mutilations. It's quite gruesome to listen because these mutilations were truly horrific.


As well, some policemen from US wrote a book (forgot his name and the book) but there are few videos where he gives a lecture about his investigations. Possibly this is a good start:


If published UFO witness accounts are a good proxy representation of a number of human mutilations, my personal estimate would be that about 10% of alien-human encounters end up as mutilations. This doesn't necessarily reflect negatively on aliens, because if you flip that percentage then 90% of encounters are not intentionally harmful. It's almost certain that we are visited with more than one alien species, so some are good, some are bad and some are in-between. Current scientific estimates are about 30-40 technological aliens in Milky Way, spaced out on average by 1,000 light-years distance.

On the opposite side of the coin, less than 10% of encounters were reported as friendly. Like where aliens went out of the way to have a chat about life, the universe, and all. I would say 80% of direct alien-human encounters were just for scientific interest, like medical examinations and safe return.

Now, for me personally, 10% of being chopped up (without anesthetics) is too darn high to enter UFO. That's 1 in 10.
 
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