Discussion in 'Cryptozoology' started by nivek, Jan 15, 2019.
Oh, so nothing to do with JFK's assassination...
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Loch Ness Monster sighting caught on video
Offshore worker Trevor Ross was taking a stroll along the beach at Dores - a small village at the northeastern side of Loch Ness - when he noticed something protruding from the water.
Grabbing his phone, he managed to capture a few seconds of footage.
The object, which appears black in color, seemed to move up and down, in and out of the water.
"I have been along Dores beach loads, and I never seen anything like that before in the water moving," he said. "It might have been a log." The sighting comes just one week after a family spotted an 'eel-like' creature described as being 'the size of a bus' at exactly the same spot on the beach at Dores.
At the time, they were unable to capture footage, however this latest sighting could be connected. Could both witnesses have seen the same object partially submerged in the water ?
It does look like a log bobbing up and down.
Couple spots 'bus-sized' creature in Loch Ness
Corey Sturrock and his wife had been out for a walk when they spotted something very large in the water. The encounter, which took place on Saturday at around 3.40pm, occurred while the couple were walking along the shoreline at Dores - a small village on the northeastern side of the loch.
"I have been camping and walking on Loch Ness my whole life and I have never believed in the Loch Ness monster," said Corey. "But what my wife and I saw was something quite extraordinary and I would like to know if other people have seen the same."
He described the creature as 'eel-like' but also 'the size of a bus'.
"We saw the water rippling as if something was swelling, and that is what grabbed our attention," he said. "We then saw this thing, that looked like a massive eel rise from the water, and then go back under again. There was a large swell."
The same thing was also witnessed by several other people who had been walking nearby. Sadly however, Corey was unable to capture the spectacle on camera. "I reached for my phone - but it was all over in a matter of about 10 or 20 seconds - and it only showed itself for a few seconds," he said.
"By the time I got my phone out it had gone underneath again."
As for what the creature was - Corey is skeptical that it was a literal monster but believes that it could have been some sort of large eel that lives in the loch.
"Whatever it was it was some size," he said.
Aye!, she's back for sure!
Loch Ness Monster 'caught on sonar' by tour boat 500ft below surface of water
... and this time we've got 'Sonar Proof'!
Would be nice if I could see it.....but it appears to be more of a joke.
A "sea monster" photographed in 1936 ... or is it?
Un « monstre marin » photographié en 1936
I'd say its a wave under different shadings in the water. But then as I can't read much I can't see if there are any valid details.
I was first trying to determine how high the plane was flying to give us an idea of how long the plane shadow is...The plane is a Latécoère 28, a French long-haul mail plane and also used as a passenger airliner in the 1930s...Its wingspan is 19.25 metres and can reach an altitude of 5,200 metres, however I couldn't find any information on what altitude the plane was flying at when the photograph was taken...
Hi CY, it's been a while old mate, hope your well my friend.
... and sorry if you were unable to read or translate the article from the French newspaper, so here I have the whole translated article for your perusal . ...
A "sea monster" photographed in 1936
This photo illustrated a newspaper article published in 1936
This story is above all that of Mr. Laurent Pelletier, as recounted in this article of theWest Lightning Sunday published in 1936.
This engineer from the bridge and pavement department left France a few years earlier for Saigon. There, he managed several plantations, in addition to his work for the colonial administration. Mr. Pelletier cannot return to France every year, it is too far, but now there is this newly created airline, Air France, which offers an air link. He quickly does the math, these countless flea jumps in the air (the number of stops is indecent), make him win anyway ... 3 weeks compared to a sea trip!
On October 1, 1936, there was still a long way to go from France, when he took his seat in this small plane that took off from the modest runway of the city of Djask, in what is now Iran. In the aircraft, there are two other passengers, and there are both crew members. 5 people in total. The cockpit is very close, and it is not separated from the rest of the plane. Laurent Pelletier follows the manoeuvres carried out by the pilots with attention, then plunges his eyes towards the sumptuous landscape offered by his window.
The journey is going to be long and boring, he thinks, and then he sees Ormuz looming. This island was already an important trading hub 500 years ago, and is home to many historical remains. Not wanting to miss the opportunity to take a picture of these ruins, he digs into some cardboard hanging above his seat by a net, and grabs his camera. Because Mr. Pelletier, we can say, and give him an infinite grace for it, is a photo enthusiast. As proof, at the end of his journey, he will have impressed about forty films!
The plane is now flying over the island of Ormuz and Mr. Pelletier is captivated by this rib of a bright ochre, dotted with white ribs, these clumps of rock salt in the hollow of the ravines. With his eye in the camera's viewfinder, his right hand on the focus ring, Mr. Pelletier is about to capture this moment. But something stops him, and calls him out. Let him now tell us his observation in his own words:
It was then that the most exceptional event happened to me to attend throughout my life!
I saw it at first, far enough away from a side - at a distance that I could not appreciate - a long bubbling of foam, amazing in the middle this flat calm. This swirl moved from west to east, describing a wide arc of circle.
My Contax was still in hand, I was following this inexplicable curve with my eyes. When, at a certain distance from her, I saw a dark, very long undulating shape disappear, something that was moving... by meandering, something much bigger than the largest cetaceans that can be found in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea.
At this distance, such an excessive appearance testified to a monstrous reality!
No one on the plane was paying attention to me or what I was looking at. (...) ... I did not want to stop staring at the sea where this white swirl always appeared. Even, I was ready to trigger my goal and I was passionately waiting for the phenomenon to happen again.
My hope was not in vain... for the second time I saw a kind of snake come out of the bubbling, this time very black, albeit submerged. You know that from an airplane you can clearly distinguish what escapes ordinary observation, up to several tens of meters below the surface of the sea. The beast was soon fully visible, I quickly took two pictures.
I could see a small bulge, the head probably, a very long neck, then a more ventruous ring -exactly like those pictures of boa digesting a sheep - finally a very long tail, much longer than the neck, almost even equal to the length of it plus what I call the belly. I can't tell if the ripples of the march were horizontal or vertical, because of the sharpness of my visual angle, but the monster was suddenly progressing on by ripples.
A small trickle of foam followed the anterior end for a moment, no doubt the beast pulled its head out of the water. »
The article entitled "News of the Sea Snake" is from the archives of the National Library of France, which we thank because it was kindly digitized at our request. It is now freely available here.
Mr. Pelletier is convinced what he saw is the same type of creature as the Lochness monster, (born just 3 years before) that until then he did not believe much. According to the newspaper, Mr. Pelletier provided the original photograph, which technicians and photographers meticulously inspected and enlarged. They are formal, there is no trace of deception or trickery. This photograph is real. The interpretation that is made of it, is necessarily subject to discussion, but it is surprising that this document has remained totally unnoticed for almost a century.
Because, it may be agreed, the supposed pictures of sea monsters, are very, very rare. This one is far from anonymous, and accompanied by a testimony given by someone curious and educated. There is even some precision as to the location of the shooting location: 56 degrees of east longitude, 27 degrees north latitude.
The only trace I found, after the publication of 1936, is in an article on the appearances of sea snakes published in the magazine Indochina, in 1943. Mr. Pelletier's observation is called "The Sea Snake of the Air France Plane"." Then, at first glance, the sea monster of Hormuz has completely disappeared from the radar.
ideally, we should find the original film, because it did not remain the property of the newspaper but that of Mr. Pelletier.
A case, again, to follow...
.. A wave looks a viable explanation to me as well CY, but Monsieur Pelletier didn't think so did he? ... and the Persian Gulf region is no stranger to 'sea serpent' reports as a historical check tells us. Here's the latest claim from 2017 ...
... but would probably turn out to be a rotting whale carcass , but the 1936 photo is very different and so I thought interesting.
Yeah, that's probably the right way to go Nivek, but as you know, i'm not very technical and all that I can say is that whatever it is? ... it looks pretty big to me mate. in fact so big that it would dwarf a blue whale, and that is one of the reasons that I suspect that it is an anomalously-looking photo of a wave. .. but then, who knows?
Odd waves or Ogopogo? Calgary resident captures ‘weird waves’ on Okanagan Lake
Hi Nivek, I would hazard a guess that it was one of those weird looking waves that are everywhere to be found on YT claiming to be Nessie, Ogopogo etc, ... but of course one can never be truly sure? That Dr Robert Young seems to have nailed the 'what caused the wave?' question in his explanation of the thermodynamics of lake water during the seasonal changes... but nevertheless I like to see these videos , and Here's one from Canada that moves like a sprinter...
... and here's a clip from nearly 10 years ago that for all the world seems to show a couple of large creatures in Loch Ness that have the appearance of a whale with it's cub. ...
in Loch Ness??
So do I, some are fairly unconvincing but sometimes a good one comes along like the second one you posted, which I haven't seen before...To my eyes it appears to be something solid under the water causing that wake, like the backside of something large almost breaking the surface but not quite, I wished I was there to see that one first hand...I really like that video lol...
... Probably not Cryptid-news and almost certainly a fraud, but I kinda liked it and thought I would share.
Referring to 'Nessie' again .. I was always most impressed by this picture that was taken way back in 1972 by Dr Robert Rines as being a genuine oddity as pertaining to physical proof of [ the almost impossible ] Loch Ness Monster...
O.K we've all seen it many times and have our own views on it's importance in the quest of Nessie-proof, and I myself as a 'firm-ish-non-believer' of the Loch Ness Monster [since childhood anyway] was still puzzled by this photograph's authenticity ... coming from the prestigious source that it came from, because Rines was no ordinary modern-day-crypto-bullshitter, but in fact a totally honourably intelligent scientist recognised by the MIT ...
... but then I just found the unenhanced version of the famous picture that I had been looking at for so many years ....
... and am now, not so impressed! ... from this point of view, ... the picture doesn't look any more like the flipper of some mysterious lake monster, than a picture of a murky lake-bottom with a light shone upon it! ... how about you?
Rare two-headed juvenile shark found by Palghar fisherman
A fisherman from Satpati village in Palghar discovered a baby shark, about six inches in length, with two heads in his by-catch on Friday.
Confused by the genetic anomaly, Nitin Patil took a few pictures and videos of the shark before throwing it back into the sea. When he shared the images with other fishermen, he was told that it was a rare anomaly. “We do not eat such small fish, especially sharks, so I thought it was strange but decided to throw it anyway,” said Patil.
Another fisherman, Umesh Palekar said, “We have never seen anything like this before. We believe one of the larger sharks may have given birth to this double-headed shark baby. We shared the images with researchers from the Indian Council for Agricultural Research - Central Marine Fisheries Research Institute (ICAR-CMFRI), Mumbai.”
CMFRI scientists and other marine biologists confirmed it was a very rare documentation and could be the first along the Maharashtra coastline for a double-headed shark species.
(More on the link)
Real. Another bug pic, but I admit being fascinated. 20+ years I never saw these things, ever. When they first showed up a couple of years ago (also in the Fall) I took it as an unusual occurrence and a paranormal sign of good fortune. Now they are just giant bugs - 4-5 inches long - that could be Bear Grylls' lunch. I didn't reduce the image, this one's cool. It doesn't show the other two or three just squished in the driveway as we come & go. Not moving too quick.
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