Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

nivek

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being honest and responsible.

Those are two things sorely missing from most news outlets these days and from most of the social media outlets as well...When I take a look on Twitter there's so much garbage being spewed out and labeled as fact, its disgusting...

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nivek

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Common cholesterol drug reduces risk of COVID death by 40%, study finds

The most common cholesterol-lowering drugs may improve hospitalized COVID-19 patients’ chances of survival and reduce their risks of progressing to more severe disease, a new study suggests.

An analysis of more than 10,000 people admitted to more than a 140 hospitals across the nation found that a class of medications called statins, together with blood pressure drugs, reduced in-hospital COVID-19 death by 40% among those who took them prior to being admitted.

The reduced risk of death was slightly higher for those taking statins alone (46%) compared to people only taking high blood pressure medication (27%). The same held true of COVID-19 patients’ odds of severe disease: those only taking statins benefited from a 25% lower risk of developing severe disease and those taking blood pressure medications had a 11% lower risk.

The findings applied primarily to those with high cholesterol and high blood pressure, mostly because people with such health conditions are more likely to take these medications to help treat them. The benefits remained even after researchers accounted for other medication use, health conditions and patient demographics such as insurance status.

Researchers say the drugs’ benefits may stem from their ability to reduce inflammation in the body, which is known to cause many of the severe outcomes in COVID-19 patients with serious cases.

The study was published Friday in the journal PLOS One.

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dr wu

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Common cholesterol drug reduces risk of COVID death by 40%, study finds

The most common cholesterol-lowering drugs may improve hospitalized COVID-19 patients’ chances of survival and reduce their risks of progressing to more severe disease, a new study suggests.

An analysis of more than 10,000 people admitted to more than a 140 hospitals across the nation found that a class of medications called statins, together with blood pressure drugs, reduced in-hospital COVID-19 death by 40% among those who took them prior to being admitted.

The reduced risk of death was slightly higher for those taking statins alone (46%) compared to people only taking high blood pressure medication (27%). The same held true of COVID-19 patients’ odds of severe disease: those only taking statins benefited from a 25% lower risk of developing severe disease and those taking blood pressure medications had a 11% lower risk.

The findings applied primarily to those with high cholesterol and high blood pressure, mostly because people with such health conditions are more likely to take these medications to help treat them. The benefits remained even after researchers accounted for other medication use, health conditions and patient demographics such as insurance status.

Researchers say the drugs’ benefits may stem from their ability to reduce inflammation in the body, which is known to cause many of the severe outcomes in COVID-19 patients with serious cases.

The study was published Friday in the journal PLOS One.

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Well...I take both hpb med and a statin daily because of high blood pressure and a heart attack I had some years back.
Good to know that it might help me in other ways one day.
 

nivek

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Delta variant's rise plunges Europe into uncertainty — and offers a warning to the U.S.

BARCELONA — Last month, as Europe finally lifted COVID-19 restrictions, the mood was jubilant across the continent. Outdoor mask mandates and curfews were dropped, Americans were cleared to resume travel to tourist mainstays, and hopes rose that life would quickly return to normal.

The swift spread of the Delta variant, however, has upended all of that wishful thinking and is offering a warning to the U.S.

Fast becoming the dominant strain of the coronavirus across Europe, Delta is wreaking havoc in Spain, Portugal and the United Kingdom. Spain alone reported nearly 44,000 cases on Tuesday, doubling the number recorded one week ago. Trying to blunt the effect of the strain that is expected by August to account for 70 to 90 percent of all cases in the EU, countries on the continent are clamping on new restrictions to counter a mutation that is at least twice as infectious at the variety that shuttered the world in 2020.

In France, President Emmanuel Macron announced on Monday that patrons must now present “health passes” showing full vaccination or a negative COVID test to enter bars, cafés, restaurants, theaters or museums. Greece and Portugal have imposed similar requirements for those wishing to dine out or check into hotels. In the Netherlands, nightclubs and discos, closed for a year, opened for mere days before Prime Minister Mark Rutte ordered them shut again.

“What we thought was possible in practice turned out to be wrong after all,” Rutte explained.
In Malta — the world’s only country where over 70 percent of the population has been fully vaccinated — the government has barred all entry to people who have not been vaccinated.

Curfews are being reinstated in Spain; in Barcelona, a hotbed of the Delta variant, nightclubs that opened two weeks ago are now shuttered again. Bars, restaurants and all nonessential businesses have been ordered to close by 12:30 a.m., and further restrictions are expected to soon follow.

As in the U.S., where Delta is also now the leading strain, COVID-19 case numbers in Europe that had been dropping in the past three months are back on the rise. With just 44 percent of Europeans fully vaccinated, there remains a large swath of the population who are particularly vulnerable to infection.

“Right now if you’re under-vaccinated or unvaccinated, you’re at high risk of getting Delta when there’s so much transmission,” Dr. Peter Hotez of Baylor College of Medicine in Houston told Yahoo News.


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nivek

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Wow...

 

nivek

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What the powers that be seem to be forgetting is that there are thousands of people who got sick with Covid and recovered and have natural protection from Covid, they don't need to be vaccinated...

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dr wu

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What the powers that be seem to be forgetting is that there are thousands of people who got sick with Covid and recovered and have natural protection from Covid, they don't need to be vaccinated...

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I would say it's a lot of guesswork and now we know that even those who have had it before and vaccinated people can still get it again,.,,,so do we not get vaccinated or what? Again better safe than sorry and not getting vaccinated is puting everyone at risk imo.
 

nivek

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so do we not get vaccinated or what? .

If I was sick with Covid last year I would not have gotten vaccinated, this blanket coverage mentality is asinine...They have records of who had Covid as well as who has been vaccinated...I never said we should not be vaccinated, your twisting my point...Some people do not need to be vaccinated, many do however...

I'm not getting any booster shots if they suddenly say we must all have one, I've done my part for king and country and got the shot, once is enough for me...

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dr wu

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If I was sick with Covid last year I would not have gotten vaccinated, this blanket coverage mentality is asinine...They have records of who had Covid as well as who has been vaccinated...I never said we should not be vaccinated, your twisting my point...Some people do not need to be vaccinated, many do however...

I'm not getting any booster shots if they suddenly say we must all have one, I've done my part for king and country and got the shot, once is enough for me...

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Yet many who had it and even those vaccinated got it again...that was my point. So there is no guarantee if you had it you won't get it again. Everyone I know who had it...still got the vaccine to be safe. I think those that don't are risking their lives...but then it's their life to play with.
 

nivek

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I'm not anti-vax at all, I've gotten umpteen amount of shots when I was in the Navy and more before departing overseas...I have no problem with vaccines or else I wouldn't have got the Covid one...

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dr wu

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I'm not anti-vax at all, I've gotten umpteen amount of shots when I was in the Navy and more before departing overseas...I have no problem with vaccines or else I wouldn't have got the Covid one...

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Ok,,,,so how do you feel about those not getting it even though it might help us all..? Are you supporting their ideological stance even if it could cause others to get sick?
 

nivek

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Yet many who had it and even those vaccinated got it again...that was my point. So there is no guarantee if you had it you won't get it again. Everyone I know who had it...still got the vaccine to be safe. I think those that don't are risking their lives...but then it's their life to play with.

So then those who had Covid don't need vaccination, if they get the shot or not they may still get infected a second time by your logic, so why go through with it and risk even more issues from side effects...Its redundant for people previously sick with Covid to get a vaccine for something they already had...

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nivek

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Ok,,,,so how do you feel about those not getting it even though it might help us all..? Are you supporting their ideological stance even if it could cause others to get sick?

Loaded questions of course, you're again assuming everyone not vaccinated has some ideological reason for not getting the shot...You seem to forget that many young people don't want the shot because they see themselves as healthy and making a logical choice on their own which is not ideological in any way...I support freedom of choice, we cannot force an experimental vaccine on people period...Any issue with that is between doctor and patient, not government big brother...I chose to be vaccinated, not because the government told me to but because of my own research and understanding of the risks...

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dr wu

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So then those who had Covid don't need vaccination, if they get the shot or not they may still get infected a second time by your logic, so why go through with it and risk even more issues from side effects...Its redundant for people previously sick with Covid to get a vaccine for something they already had...

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No one understand fully the issues of antibodies regarding this,,,that's a fact. There's no guarantee that the antibodies from having the first covid strain will save someone So its a good idea to be sure especially now there are variants...unless you know something the rest of us don't. They have said from the beginning that just because you had covid doesn't mean you should not get the vaccine. This is not my opinion but the facts.
This side effect issue is not an issue...the incidence is very low and imo is not worth worrying about in light of actually getting covid. As I said everyone in my family had the vaccine and several already had covid.
 

nivek

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No one understand fully the issues of antibodies regarding this,,,that's a fact. There's no guarantee that the antibodies from having the first covid strain will save someone So its a good idea to be sure especially now there are variants...unless you know something the rest of us don't. They have said from the beginning that just because you had covid doesn't mean you should not get the vaccine. This is not my opinion but the facts.

That is the opinion of whomever said that, its not a fact...

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dr wu

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Loaded questions of course, you're again assuming everyone not vaccinated has some ideological reason for not getting the shot...You seems to forget that many young people don't want the shot because they see themselves as healthy and making a logical choice on their own which is not ideological in any way...I support freedom of choice, we cannot force an experimental vaccine on people period...Any issue with that is between doctor and patient, not government big brother...I chose to be vaccinated, not because the government told me to but because of my own research and understanding of the risks...

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Fair point but from what I have read most who have not got the vaccine are either scared of the shot for 'personal reasons ' or have some 'ideological' reason. I would love to hear an interview with someone who is healthy ,young, and not doing it for ideological reasons....btw freedom of chocie is an ideological reason for not taking the vaccine.
 

nivek

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This side effect issue is not an issue...the incidence is very low and imo is not worth worrying about in light of actually getting covid. As I said everyone in my family had the vaccine and several already had covid.

Well good for you, you didn't have any adverse effects from the vaccine, many many others have, I prefer to show some sympathy for those people, even though percentages are low...This is akin to saying let the virus run it's course, it will only kill a small percentage of the population...o_O

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nivek

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I would love to hear an interview with someone who is healthy ,young, and not doing it for ideological reasons....

I guess you selectively skipped over this post of examples a couple pages back...

‘I am 30 and have no reason to get vaccinated.’ Getting COVID-19 shots in the arms of young adults a challenge for public health experts.

CHICAGO — Sally Vala says she has no desire to get the COVID-19 vaccine, in part because she’s relatively young and has no major health problems.

“I am 30 and have no reason to get vaccinated,” said the west suburban Downers Grove woman. “I’m healthy, exercise and have been fine since this whole thing started. No plans on getting the vaccine.”

As public health officials race to vaccinate enough Americans to reach herd immunity against the new virus, getting shots in the arms of young adults might prove to be a major challenge, according to two recent studies by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


In one study, nearly a quarter of 18- to 39-year-olds surveyed in the spring said they would “probably or definitely not” get vaccinated.

Adults aged 18 to 24 were least likely to report getting immunized and most likely to describe being unsure or definitely planning to forgo vaccination.

Worries about the safety and effectiveness of the shots “were the primary reported reasons for not getting vaccinated,” the study concluded.

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dr wu

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That is the opinion of whomever said that, its not a fact...

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No it;s a fact they said this.. all the virus experts . No one is certain about any of this. That's the only fact everyone seems to agree on, so getting vaccinated is less of a risk but better than dying from covid. I don't see how anyone can make a rational argument against this.
 
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