Elon Musk, What's up with that dude?

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  1. wwkirk

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    The prices are starting to get reasonable.
     
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  2. Kchoo

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    I want two, and enough of a personal solar power plant to charge one of them while I drive the other. Hehe
     
  3. nivek

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    I do agree that AI could become a dangerous thing...

    Elon Musk: ‘Mark my words — A.I. is far more dangerous than nukes’

    Tesla and SpaceX boss Elon Musk has doubled down on his dire warnings about the danger of artificial intelligence.

    The billionaire tech entrepreneur called AI more dangerous than nuclear warheads and said there needs to be a regulatory body overseeing the development of super intelligence, speaking at the South by Southwest tech conference in Austin, Texas on Sunday.

    It is not the first time Musk has made frightening predictions about the potential of artificial intelligence — he has, for example, called AI vastly more dangerous than North Korea — and he has previously called for regulatory oversight.

    Some have called his tough talk fear-mongering. Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg said Musk's doomsday AI scenarios are unnecessary and "pretty irresponsible." And Harvard professor Steven Pinker also recently criticized Musk's tactics.

    Musk, however, is resolute, calling those who push against his warnings "fools" at SXSW.

    "The biggest issue I see with so-called AI experts is that they think they know more than they do, and they think they are smarter than they actually are," said Musk. "This tends to plague smart people. They define themselves by their intelligence and they don't like the idea that a machine could be way smarter than them, so they discount the idea — which is fundamentally flawed."

    Based on his knowledge of machine intelligence and its developments, Musk believes there is reason to be worried.

    "I am really quite close, I am very close, to the cutting edge in AI and it scares the hell out of me," said Musk. "It's capable of vastly more than almost anyone knows and the rate of improvement is exponential."

    Musk pointed to machine intelligence playing the ancient Chinese strategy game Go to demonstrate rapid growth in AI's capabilities. For example, London-based company, DeepMind, which was acquired by Google in 2014, developed an artificial intelligence system, AlphaGo Zero, that learned to play Go without any human intervention. It learned simply from randomized play against itself. The Alphabet-owned company announced this development in a paper published in October.

    Musk worries AI's development will outpace our ability to manage it in a safe way.

    "So the rate of improvement is really dramatic. We have to figure out some way to ensure that the advent of digital super intelligence is one which is symbiotic with humanity. I think that is the single biggest existential crisis that we face and the most pressing one."

    To do this, Musk recommended the development of artificial intelligence be regulated.

    "I am not normally an advocate of regulation and oversight — I think one should generally err on the side of minimizing those things — but this is a case where you have a very serious danger to the public," said Musk.

    "It needs to be a public body that has insight and then oversight to confirm that everyone is developing AI safely. This is extremely important. I think the danger of AI is much greater than the danger of nuclear warheads by a lot and nobody would suggest that we allow anyone to build nuclear warheads if they want. That would be insane," he said at SXSW.

    "And mark my words, AI is far more dangerous than nukes. Far. So why do we have no regulatory oversight? This is insane."

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    It's a flame thrower.
     
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    Its almost four hours long...:ohmy8:

    Streamed live 8 hours ago
    Tesla Autonomy Day is on Mon, April 22nd


     
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  8. Wade

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  9. Wade

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    A unexpected detour

    You know we did get some mileage out of this thread awhile back but there has been another issue tied to this field that is arguably more profound and immediate than those mentioned here.

    The homeless population ( in LA) is growing quite quickly because LA's Silicon Beach is growing quite rapidly and the surrounding areas haven't the space so if you live in a space or town where they have no rent control then your days are probably numbered.
     
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    Tesla Model 3 on Autopilot crashes into police car

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    A Tesla has crashed into a police car and another vehicle while on Autopilot in the US.


    Both the police car and the other vehicle, which had broken down, were stationary at the time of the incident.

    The driver told police that he put his Tesla Model 3 on Autopilot so that he could check on his dog in the back.

    The crash occurred on Interstate 95 in Norwalk, Connecticut, in the early hours of Saturday morning local time.

    The police car was parked behind the broken down vehicle with its blue lights flashing, as it waited for a tow truck.

    The Tesla, which starts from £42,000 in the UK and $36,000 in the US, struck the rear of the police car and continued travelling forward, leading it to hit the car in front.

    Police said no one was injured.

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    "The operator of the Tesla stated that he had his vehicle on 'auto-pilot' and explained that he was checking on his dog which was in the back seat," wrote Connecticut State Police on Facebook.


    The police force added: "Regardless of your vehicle's capabilities, when operating a vehicle your full attention is required at all times to ensure safe driving."

    The driver was charged with reckless driving and reckless endangerment.

    This is not the first time a Tesla has crashed while on Autopilot. In total, there have been at least five fatalities worldwide involving Tesla vehicles on Autopilot.

    The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in the US is currently investigating accidents caused by Autopilot.

    Tesla did not immediately respond to a request for comment. However, the firm does not recommend that drivers remove their hands from the wheel while using the Autopilot feature.

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    Tesla overtakes Volkswagen for No. 2 spot among world's most valuable carmakers

    (NEW YORK) — The U.S. electric car company Tesla has topped Germany’s Volkswagen to become the second most valuable automaker in the world. The electric car maker’s market value surpassed the $100 billion mark this week, overtaking Volkswagen’s approximate $99 billion. Both car companies still trail far behind the value of Japan’s Toyota, which has a market cap of more than $234 billion.

    Tesla, a relatively new player to the industry, was founded by CEO Elon Musk in 2003. Volkswagen’s history dates back to 1930’s Germany. Surpassing the $100 billion market cap could mean a big pay bump for Musk, potentially unlocking a pay package worth more than $50 billion for the CEO, the Wall Street Journal reported.

    Stock for Tesla has soared in recent months, more than doubling in value since late October 2019. The market rally may have been driven by news of high third-quarter profits and global expansion — the company successfully opened a Gigafactory in China and announced plans to build one in Germany.


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    To my knowledge, Tesla's value is based mainly on investments and expectations. It's actual sales are far below that of most other car manufacturers. This chart from a 2020 article doesn't list Tesla among the top ten manufacturers with respect to sales. Screenshot_2020-01-24 Focus2move World Cars Brand - The top in the 2019.jpg
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    'Free America Now': Billionaire Tesla boss Elon Musk joins protesters demanding COVID-19 lockdowns be lifted

    Billionaire Elon Musk has slammed coronavirus lockdown measures by tweeting 'Free America Now' as he joined protesters from across the country in demanding restrictions be lifted.

    The Tesla founder fired off a series of tweets late on Tuesday protesting against the current lockdown restrictions and applauded some states, like Texas, which are now restarting their economies.

    Musk's Twitter outburst came just as he was on the cusp of getting a $750 million payout from a bonus scheme that is linked to the electric car-maker's share price.

    'FREE AMERICA NOW,' the 48-year-old tweeted.

    Alongside a link to a Wall Street Journal op-ed about whether lockdowns are saving lives, Musk tweeted: 'Give people their freedom back!'


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    Musk’s protests probably have a lot more to do with his businesses shut down and losing money more than the poor people who have lost their freedoms.
     
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  18. Double Nought Spy

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    I had serious doubts about that guy's sanity, then he went to Thailand with plans to build a submarine to rescue those kids, which was nutty enough without his other antics while some dangerous and extremely urgent rescue operations were underway by people who knew what they were doing. That episode erased all my doubts. He has done some marvelous things, but he's also batshit crazy.
     
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    Whatever happened to the underground tunnels he planned to dig under Los Angeles, did that flop?...

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