foo fighters

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I dunno. After reading those coincidentally complimentary books it really made me wonder. You find a pile of lumber next to some newly built houses a safe bet is there’s a connection
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Cool, I'll see what he has to say. In the book it was more a compilation of reports, a series of them and in each case he holds up some obscure German weapon that couldn't possibly be in use in that area at that time. There are a very few exceptions. His research into German weapons is impressive but it seems poorly stitched to the foo fighter accounts - not a perfect fit and a bit dry. The coolness of Nazi wonder weapons doesn't add gravitas to the foo fighter story but the book does serve to let you know what stage of development they were in and how widespread their use might have been. Which wasn't so much as we might think.

What I got out of it was that there aren't many verified accounts and the majority of them in the book don't really describe what we would think of as part of the UFO phenomenon. More like people who are scared shitless and the profligate use of modern arms. Having read this the wee little saucers described in Black Thursday sound more like an aerial mine type thing than anything else. There are some descriptions of non-ballistic motion though that do make me wonder.

Perspective. I work with a bunch of kids that are maybe 18-24 at most. I hear them goof around with one another, see how they behave. Most are decent sorts. The accounts we're reading about didn't come from old farts like us sitting comfortably in our jammies with all the clarity of hindsight. They came from excitable kids no different than the ones I see every day in fantastically stressful situations, with the exception that in WW2 UFOs weren't as big a part of our pop culture then as now. Plus, they have been repeated ad nauseum and the author touches on that - that the stories tend to blur and grow legs. The idea of alien visitation wasn't unknown at the time but it took a very different form that we look at as totally hokey now. If AAWSAP really did use this material to feed on of their databases I would have doubts about any conclusions drawn from it.
 
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Noble
Foo fighters have always been such an intrigue to me. They were among the first UFO material that I started to study when I was just starting to get fascinated with the subject [all those centuries ago] ... of course I greedily grabbed any book and article [the odd snippet of tv/documentary] that I could find. They were certainly mind-fodder for a young mind such as mine and I have never forgotten the impact of how reading the old WW11 pilots stories filled with sincerity and atmosphere that you could slice with a knife made me hungry for the answer to this phenomenon. Was it to be an ET/probe? ... or something natural that we've yet to know about? ... As time went by, to my mind the only alternative to the ET/probe explanation would have had to be some kind of atmospheric plasma anomaly [ie ball lightening or something related] ... but the blocker to that identity for me is the inescapable fact that there is an awful testimony that the 'foo-fighters' were intelligently controlled ... And surely naturally occurring aerial plasma isn't..?! ... And i'm here to report that after all these years of being interested in finding out as much as I can , through TV/media and this forum ... i'm still really No Wiser! ... But I still believe in the sincerity and superior discernment skills to identify the sighting of something 'very unusual' of those old pilots, as do I believe that pilots of today are in the position through their training and general experience of all the expected sights to be seen up there are in fact the top authorities on what is 'anomalous or not' up there! ... And yes, among the myriad of witness testimony from pilots [both military and civilian] there are many modern reports of 'Foo Fighters' even if by other names. eg.. the UAP's nomenclature that Richard Haines coined about twenty years ago. ... And Richard Haines, unless you are one of those dishonest 'hard-line-debunkers' [AKA cranks] is about as scientifically qualified as it gets. ... And here is a link to a good picture of 'what I deem to be a modern-day renamed foo-fighter' that his team investigated and analysed over at NARCAP from about 2005 .... UAP Paces Airliner, NARCAP Technical Report 12 NARCAP - National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena [link because it won't let me steal the photo lol]
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... And here is a video taken by the pilot and cabin crew of an airliner flying above Mexico in march 2020 of what I consider 'a foo-fighter' .... ... the captain had 19 years of piloting experience behind him, and just listen to how 'out of the ordinary and un-prosaic' he thinks the sighting is. ... And there were eight photographs taken of the object as well ... which along with the video was analysed by Haines and his NARCAP team just a few weeks afterward.... An Independent Analysis of a March 19, 2020 Aviation-Safety Related UAP Incident Over Mexico — National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena (narcap.org) ... which kinda states that there is a 'tear-shaped object inside some kind of plasma screen' and that it was performing some kind of intelligently controlled interaction with the Aeroplane.

.... still can't rule out the alien probe theory for these 'Foo Fighters' imo. :Thumbsup:

Cheers.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
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From the 2022 hearing and foo fighters we are looking at the same object.
 

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
I agree. The Foo Fighters are just like some of the UFOs people are encountering today. Tic Tac like objects were also encountered during Exercise Mainbrace, and the one picture released looks to be a Tic Tac. One of the pictures taken of the objects seen over the stadium in Florence appears to be a Tic Tac; see the picture in the upper right corner? Tic Tac.
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When I have some time I will go through the article archive and find old sightings that match up with the objects being seen today and create a thread.

Mainbrace Photo:
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Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
Actually I was told by a person recently I know that they had an encounter with a spherical metallic object while they were driving some decades ago--a classic road encounter, and then the object shot off. I won't give any more details unless the person would agree to it. Then the picture from the UAP hearing came out, and I showed the person.
 

nivek

As Above So Below

We know what ‘foo fighters’ that buzzed Second World War pilots really were, say scientists

American scientists believe they have discovered what the strange, fast-moving blobs that shaped alien conspiracy theories truly were.

In the 1940s, Allied pilots during the Second World War reported being hounded by fast-moving blobs, which they dubbed “foo fighters”.

Shaped like clouds, donuts, balls and spheres, and often glowing or translucent, the strange entities have fuelled conspiracy theories that Earth was being visited by advanced civilisations.

Now a paper suggests the phenomena are in fact plasmas, or ionised gases, which are drawn to the electrical charge of aircraft, spacecraft and satellites.


Plasmas behave like living organisms


Experts from the universities of California, Arizona and the Harvard-Smithsonian argue that the strange properties of plasmas make them appear to behave like living organisms, even though they are not alive.

Plasmas can grow in size and replicate, make contact with each other and may “feed” off the electromagnetic radiation of satellites and spacecraft, they argue.

Huge glowing masses of up to a mile wide, which behave similarly to swarms of living organisms, have been filmed by 10 Nasa space shuttle missions, while astronauts have reported strange phenomena since the 1960s.

Astronauts Ed White and James McDivitt spotted a huge “metallic object” approaching the Gemini 4 orbiter, in June 1965, while James Lovell reported a “Bogey at 10 o’clock high” on a mission six months later.


Strange ‘L-shaped’ object


Buzz Aldrin also said he and his crewmates had seen a strange, L-shaped object which was “very big and coming closer” during the Apollo 11 Moon landing, although later said it was a booster panel.

The team believe that plasmas in the thermosphere – 66 to 372 miles high – may descend into the lower atmosphere, and account for reports by pilots.

Co-author Dr Rudolph Schild, of the Centre for Astrophysics, Harvard-Smithsonian: “These plasmas are electromagnetic entities that have a variety of shapes and sizes. They have repeatedly approached spacecraft and the space shuttles and are attracted to electromagnetic activity including thunderstorms.

“They have been filmed from space, descending into the lower atmosphere and appear to be attracted to airplanes, fighter jets, nuclear power plants, and “hot spots” of radiation, such as Hiroshima, which was destroyed by an atomic bomb.

“Based on video, photographic and computerised analysis, including reports by military officers and astronauts, we believe these plasmas account for at least some of the numerous reports of UFOs and Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon over the last several thousand years including the ‘foo fighters’ observed by German, Japanese and Allied pilots during WWII.”

“Foo Fighters” were first reported by Royal Air Force personnel in March 1942, and several US pilots saw glowing lights over Germany throughout the war.


New kind of weather phenomenon


The sightings were largely dismissed as German weapons or flight fatigue, although some speculated at the time they may be a new kind of weather phenomenon, such as St Elmo’s Fire, a plasma effect that makes aircraft wings glow.

Plasma represents the fourth state of matter distinct from solid, liquid and gas, but its properties are still being uncovered. It is responsible for lightning and phenomena such as the Northern Lights, when plasma from the Sun interacts with Earth’s magnetic field.

Plasma-like entities have been filmed congregating in their hundreds, particularly around satellite tethers which generate electromagnetic activity.

They have numerous shapes, travel in different directions, with some moving quickly while others hover in place. They even appear to target or follow each other and sometimes collide, leaving what resembles a plasma-dust trail in their wake.

Co-author Dr Christopher Impey, of the department of astronomy at the University of Arizona, said: “This does not mean these plasmas are alive, or engaging in intelligent purposeful behaviour.

“Rather, as documented experimentally, these upper atmospheric electromagnetic plasmas may be engaging in ‘energy cannibalism’ and behaviours referred to as ‘collisionality’ in which they turn, follow, collide, intersect, and, possibly exchange energy.”


Plasmas may represent ‘an alternative form of life’


Some of the authors believe that the plasmas may even represent an alternate form of life that is not carbon-based, although others are sceptical.

The team has called for more research studying the plasmas, including sending up satellites which generate electromagnetic pulses equipped with infrared and X-ray cameras to capture the phenomena.

Commenting on the research, Daniel Mitchard, a lecturer at Cardiff University’s School of Engineering said: “It’s not surprising that previously unknown charge-based phenomena exist at this altitude, and that they exhibit behaviour that we don’t yet fully understand.

“It’s also likely that they will be attracted to, or repelled from, satellites and the Space Shuttle, which can build up static charges of their own.

“Even at ground level, glowing balls from thunderstorms that behave strangely are occasionally reported, often called Ball Lightning, and no one knows what these are either - they may be the same as ‘foo fighters’. It’s definitely interesting research.”

‘Relatively unknown to public’

He added: “There’s a whole world of lightning science which is relatively unknown to the public, even though we try to get it out there.

“There are giant structures called Sprites, which look like jellyfish 25 miles (40km) tall, Elves, which are giant disks that can spread to 250 miles (400km) across, and upward lightning bolts from clouds called Jets which are three or four times longer than anything we can see from the ground.”

The new research will be published in the Journal of Modern Physics.


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