I Told You So - Deep Prasad Fake!

Discussion in 'Alien-UFOs in the Media' started by nivek, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. Cosmic Cat

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    Mine was in the Army Engineers the first go round, then went to aviation refueling Army as well etc....
     
  2. Standingstones

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    There is one story that is pure BS from Imbrogno. He wrote that he was in the Middle East looking for Djinn. He was lowered into a cave to come across those entities. He was never in the Middle East. His co-author Rosemary Ellen Guiley disavowed the “Vengeful Djinn” book after it was published.
     
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  3. nivek

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  4. pigfarmer

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    Imbrogno was a flat out liar. I haven't been following this latest nitwit all that closely but recently I did look at his public LinkedIn profile. He's a young guy padding his resume and apparently stepping around the lack of a degree. To me, this looks like perfectly normal resume behavior.

    So what I would like to know - and maybe it's common knowledge - is did he deliberately lie about a degree like Imbrogno?
    How did this kid get anointed as the second coming of PhysicsChrist by the UFO community?

    I guess I'm asking because it's a slightly different form of BS - not outright lying but riding the wave of popularity and just letting people believe what they want and not disabusing them of whatever notions they come up with.
     
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  5. Standingstones

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    I bet that when Prasad had a photo taken with Michio Kaku some people thought they must be close associates. Of course it was just a photo, nothing more. It would seem he anointed himself as a UFO expert. No one seems to question these frauds when they arrive on the scene. It’s taken for granted that Prasad must know his stuff. Nothing could have been further from the truth.
     
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  6. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Yep:

    DP fake degree claim.jpg

    In that Tweet he isn't even claiming a physics degree, but it now seems clear that he doesn't have an industrial engineering degree either. Apparently he's just a college drop-out who decided to ride the weird little wave of "alien fandom" that he generated by posting a few Tweets about the SCU conference. Some days this world is a deeply depressing and pathetic place to dwell on.

    Because most of the people interested in this field are idiots who will fall to their knees for any college drop-out who claims to have any level of scientific expertise, because most people interested in ufology are drooling with desperation for any sliver of scientific credibility they can glom on to. Which is ironic, because everything we know in the area of academic science points to a universe teeming with life, and the probability of more advanced intelligent life than ourselves is overwhelming. And yet the PsyOps-generated ridicule factor has kept so many scientists from speaking publicly and candidly on this subject, that most people think that the idea of advanced extraterrestrial civilizations is considered to be improbable (for no specific or rational reason). Anyway, that's why I'm always glad to see people like Dr. Kevin Knuth speaking out on this subject; he's one of the very few scientists who have the courage to publicly say what many (if not most) scientists privately think about this subject, given the facts currently in hand.
     
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  7. Standingstones

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    You only need to go to the Ufowatchdog website and check out the the Hall of Shame to see how many hucksters there are.
     
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  9. wwkirk

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    On Medium he presents the following credentials:
    On Linked in he only mentioned the CEO position. But on Twitter he has mentioned the degree.

    According to a University of Toronto news article, he was a first year undergraduate in 2014.

    ReactiveQ was founded in 2018. It's a very small company with 2-10 employees. It's specialty appears to be quantum computing:
    I have no idea whether his experience was real or even if he has a genuine interest in UFOs. He may be sincere, or he may just be using interest in UFOs and aliens to generate publicity for him and his company.

    He is also affiliated with UAP eXpeditions, a nonprofit think tank started by Kevin Day, dedicated to "to detect and determine if certain UAPs are in reality Extraterrestrial Technosignatures available to us in our own atmosphere." Again, there may be sincere interest or a profit motive.

    Of course, Tom Delonge has shown that it is possible to combine the two.

    It could be that Prasad really has a BASc degree, or it could be he used to claim he did, but then stopped doing so. I have seen him labeled as a "physicist" in the description of YouTube video, but I don't know if he told them he was, or merely went along for the ride.

    All in all, he appears to be a young, ambitious, technology-based entrepreneur, who has integrated UFOs into his profile. He may have exaggerated on occasion, but so far, he doesn't seem that bad in comparison to other supposed UFO experts, past or present. That doesn't mean he has a sterling character; just that given the personalities who have comprised this field, he's not exceptionally bad. I put more blame on those who hype him up way beyond his actual merit.
     
  10. Thomas R. Morrison

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    This is a far too congenial and rosy assessment, imo. If you're being interviewed and somebody calls you a physicist - and you have no credentials in physics - then it's obligatory to correct them; otherwise you're lying by omission. I couldn't care less if somebody has a physics degree; I care about honesty first and foremost. If he'd said that he's a physics enthusiast and then talked about his interests, that would be a whole other matter. Instead, he's using the little whiff of "UFO celebrity" status that he got through his SCU conference tweets, to try to bilk venture capital money out of people to pursue quantum computing objectives which are far, far beyond his capabilities and expertise.

    I looked up 'ReactiveQ" online and found this sketchy little web page. Then I went to the contact page and found this physical address, because I wanted to see if this was a real business or not:

    105 St. George St.
    Toronto, ON M5S 3E6

    So I looked up that address on Google Maps and discovered that it's the address for the Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto. Apparently he's got somebody receiving mail for him there and then forwarding it to him; perhaps it's a free university service. So ReactiveQ is not a business with a physical address, and appears to have no employees whatsoever. Apparently his friend Anthony is taking emails about "Partnerships," and he's also probably just forwarding them to Deep (or Deep Prasad simply created a second email address on his web page using the name "Anthony," that goes directly to himself).

    Quantum computing is an extremely advanced area of physics research, requiring a multi-million-dollar lab with cryogenic equipment and a team of PhD physicists with years of post-grad work on the subject. He obviously has none of that - but he wants people to think he does so they'll give him money to pursue it. That wouldn't be a bad thing, if he had anything resembling the qualifications or capabilities to pull it off, but he doesn't.

    And I find his "telepathic alien download" story to be even less credible than Billy Meier's photos of leggy Pleiadian vixens in silver spacesuits, which just happen to look exactly like a frame stolen from an old TV show. It must be a coincidence that he came out with that story in the midst of his recent campaign to get investors from the UFO community to fund his quantum computing pipe-dreams.

    And the scuttlebutt regarding his recent departure from the UAP eXpeditions group is that he was asked to provide proof of his academic degree, and couldn't do it, so he was summarily ejected. Then, like a spoiled infant, he deleted the Twitter account that he'd made for them:



    I don't see somebody with any meaningful technological expertise here, and I don't see the actions of an entrepreneur either. All I see here is a mendacious college drop-out who tragically bought his own press, and thinks that he can become some kind of hybrid between Albert Einstein and Bill Gates if he can convince enough people to fund his delusional ambitions in the field of quantum computing. It's a shame - he may have finished his education and done something interesting with his life, if some idiot journalism student at the University of Toronto hadn't made him out to be "the next Einstein" when he was a college freshman. Clearly that kind of unwarranted hype at such a young age can go straight to your head and torpedo any chance of making something out of your life:

    Could this first-year undergrad be the (next) Einstein?
     
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  11. wwkirk

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    Yeah, he sounds like a swindler "with good intentions" or a just straight swindler. Since he has been outed to some degree, it will be interesting to see whether his UFO career goes up in smoke, or whether he'll get continued support from parts of the UFO community.

    Also, considering his relative youth, it will be interesting to see if he decides to go back to school and become a legitimate engineer and/or entrepreneur, or whether he goes further down a dark path.

    Although he didn't have a PhD, Stanton Friedman actually worked professionally as a physicist. But whenever someone addressed him as 'Dr.' he would immediately correct them.
     
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  12. nivek

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  13. wwkirk

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    I guess in the past it was easier to get away with inflating one's credentials. That would have been especially true in the pre-Internet age. But nowadays, doing so only serves to undermine whatever credibility you might have had. Even if you have interesting ideas or exceptional experiences, being dishonest along the way about your credentials (or anything for that matter) will lead people to doubt you about everything.

    But it is obvious why someone would try. Deep is under 25 years old and may not even have a college degree. Accordingly, he figured a lot of people would be reluctant to take what he said seriously at face value. So he decided he could garner credibility by passing himself off as a physicist and UFO-experiencer. And he was right, it worked...For a while. But now he's starting to face the backlash.
     
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  14. nivek

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    So this account pops up on Twitter in August supportive of DP, a sock puppet maybe?...

     
  15. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Unfortunately there are always cheerleaders for any public figure in this field. I really hope that he won't become some New-Age-style scientism evangelist shilling tickets to pop science talks on the UFO convention circuit.

    I would love to see him go back to school and pursue his ambitions within academia - and earn some real clout doing research and publishing papers. He seems like a likable guy, and somewhere beneath the awful facade of a wannabe UFO physics guru I suspect lurks a bright idealist with good intentions. But this whole "fake it til you make it" BS publicity stunt strategy is insipid and repugnant and ultimately a hopeless path of doomed intentions. If he could drop the ego and get his shit together, and get some real expertise under his belt at the post-grad level, then this sordid little foray into the murky domain of "UFO celebrity" status would only humanize him and make him more approachable after he publishes some fresh ideas and/or experimental triumphs in the academic literature. I'd rather be proud of him for making that kind of hard but rewarding legit effort, than see him become another tragic roadkill on the alien superhighway.

    Yeah Stanton did not fuck around with credentials - his, or anybody else's. That's old-school bedrock integrity stuff. More people in this area need to embrace that kind of unflinching honorability.

    Stanton had a Masters degree in nuclear physics, and 14 years of top-tier R&D on nuclear propulsion and energy systems for the military. If Deep Prasad would only get a goddamn BS in physics, then he could let people call him a physicist and not be lying about it. But if he took it a step further and got his Master of Science degree in quantum computing, then he'd have a real shot at pulling a company together to pursue that kind of work.

    It takes more than the power of positive thinking, and an over-abundance of self-esteem, to recruit highly qualified physicists to build a next-gen quantum computer capable of discovering exciting new solutions in the unfathomably complex field of quantum materials engineering. If he actually wants to dedicate his life to that ambition, then he'll have to execute his bloated ego and get a few years of education under a professor who's leading in the field...and along the way prove that he can make significant contributions to the field by getting his name on some seminal published papers. I don't know if he's smart enough to pull that off, but he seems to think so - and if he really is that smart, then he needs to prove it by doing it rather than talking about it.
     
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  16. Double Nought Spy

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    Heh. Sure looks like it. If it isn't, then it's hard to see what the point of the account is.

    "If I were a physicist..." looks a bit Freudian. :D
     
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  17. nivek

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    Well Jimmy Church gives a free pass to frauds like Corey Goode and David Wilcock so why not another...

     

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