Losing Faith.

Discussion in 'Around the Campfire' started by Shadowprophet, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Shadowprophet

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    I know, I'm just a small blip on the map, People may not remember a while back, I and A cousin of mine tried to organize a family reunion and everything kind of blew up. Those conversations have continued to escalate. Not with me personally, but within my family, there is this growing divide between The Indiana Branch and The Kentucky branch. Now A Cousin of mine has called my Mother A Bitch and a whore and a slut and a degenerate because of her political views. Now, Some people may think, That's horrible, Yeah, yeah it is. This was a Nephew to his Aunt. When my mother did not respond to his slanders and attacks, Another Aunt of mine Jumped in to help him.

    I want to in my heart, Blame politics for this, But, This isn't the fault of politics or political views, People just have more hate and bitterness than they used too, The world is really starting to suck really badly.

    Sure, Like a lot of people, I believe my cousin could benefit from a Broken Jaw. He would be ten times over a better person if he couldn't run his dick sucker. But, my feelings about this are dejected, Of course, I care That my mother was hurt, But, I am beginning to care so little about certain members of my family in Indiana, That I don't think breaking his Jaw would fix anything. It wouldn't make me like him again, It wouldn't restore my family, He's dead to me. I just wouldn't be phased at all if he fell over dead.

    And this is what's wrong with the world, There is so much hate that it's poisoning people, I am not a hateful person, I don't like Negative things, I don't like hate or drama.

    But truthfully, Some of those people in Indiana who used to be family, are no longer family to me. Nothing will change that, Their hate and bitterness have affected me to a point, That I view them as a Cancer and I would benefit greatly by removing them from me.

    I don't do this lightly either. I deplore the idea of disowning people, I don't think that's how Spirituality or good people function. But they have won their prize. Those people are dead to me.

    Don't take this the wrong way, This isn't me whining, Or even complaining, I need to be able to process things and typing things out like this helps me do that, and yes, I understand some of you guys have been through similar things. I'm not saying, Oh woe is me for no one has ever felt my pain. Nah. I know some of you understand. I just wanted to vocalize that My cousin DJ is a Meth head Punk ass bitch, And I'll be damned if some Meth addicted freak who was never there for his children, Will lecture my family about how he's a better person because he voted differently, fuck that shit.
     
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  2. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    Family can be just another term for people you wouldn't ordinarily associate with anyway.
    I had to disconnect myself from two toxic cousins. Considered it a necessary amputation.
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  3. Shadowprophet

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    I agree, I try to live in this Almost fantasy Idea of a "Barny's world, where everyone loves everyone. Sadly, My ideas of the golden rule, Just don't seem to apply in the real world. It's a crazy messed up place, The world...
     
  4. baleeber

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    I've got the same problem. I've got some family members who are die-hard conservative Republicans, and some who are die-hard liberal Democrats, and I'm neither. They're constantly taking shots at each other, and I have family members who have cut each other off because of politics. I have some family members posting things like "The Only Good Republican Is a Dead Republican", but then when they need money, they pretend to be nice to their Republican family members.

    And my problem is that I'm too liberal for the conservatives and too conservative for the liberals. Personally, I'm tired of the constant fighting.
     
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  5. Shadowprophet

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    This is long, I'm sorry, I had a lot to say about how much distaste I have for politics...

    I don't really know what I am, At one time I would have said I was a republican, But, To be fair, Those Labels, Like republican and democrat, have become too hard leaning in modern times, Like for instance, I believe That For The nation to prosper, We need strong leadership, Like when Obama was in office, Obama was far to peace-loving, And don't get me wrong, Everyone want's peace, But, Obama wouldn't call a terrorist a terrorist, That's so peaceful it's weak. But, Then there are the Hard leaning republican Views, Of all the problems our country has, Immigration was never a huge issue. If you Remember before Trump came into office, All the news was about War and Fighting, Now it's just all about politics. It's like Trump tried to change the national narrative from War To political conflicts.

    I really don't fully agree with either side. And To be fair, I think most people don't fully agree with either side. But yet, There are so many people leaning into politics so hard they Strife and fight with each other over political views. A time Came When What I truly care about, Was no longer in the political spotlight. I care about People that work hard and making sure they get treated fairly by their government, I care about people who can't afford to pay their bills or Buy food for their families. But you don't hear politicians talking about the true problems that everyone faces. No, Politicians, Draw us away from our own issues, the issues that matter to us and our families and make it about war and immigration, In one way or another, Each president tries to get people involved in conflicts that have very little to do with the real personal problems families who pay taxes face, And I know, Weather it's war or politics, The next president will use the same strategy. Because every politician want's the people to be upset at problems that keep people fighting and arguing about issues that have nothing to do with the fact that people are sick and dying because they can't afford medicine, Or that Families can't afford to feed themselves and their children.

    If people only understood, republican, Democrat, Those are just titles politicians wrap up their ideologies in, The things that matter, Are what all politicians have in common, they are all rich fat powerful and greedy and simply do not care about the less fortunate or those people who are suffering that they could easily help. . So they rally some great cause and try to get people all caught up in those other subjects, So people can forget they are sick, Mistreated at their low paying jobs, And Hungry.

    The saddest part of all is, When you get so many people angry enough, they all do seem to forget about their own problems, and band together for some delusional greater cause. Politics of every verity are simply a misdirected sham sadly. That's why I will not fight politics with anyone, Because It's all a staged show, To calm down the sheeple or even misdirect their anger toward something other than the real problem, The rich greedy politicians who watch people starve get sick and die, Because Health care is so messed up, hospitals charge seven hundred dollars to slap a bandaid on someone.
     
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  6. baleeber

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    The thing is, politics is just a sport: red team vs blue team. People sign up to the team because then they no longer have to be responsible for making individual judgments. They can just believe whatever the team believes, and even if they're wrong, at least they have company, and although the other team will hate them, their own team needs their support.

    Look at America's leaders. Notice how often Republicans wear red, while Democrats wear blue. It's just programming.

    And while the American people are all fighting each other, for the leaders, it's just another day of living off hard-working people's tax dollars.
     
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  7. pigfarmer

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    Politics?

    Hey wait a minute - we're not shrieking over kids in filthy cages separated from their parents anymore? Weren't they supposed to be sent to DC so Trump could actually consume them for lunch? I guess that all got squared away before the recess and everything is fine now ......

    I'll have to turn the TV on so I know what the crisis du jour is.
     
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  8. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    Two things I can’t stand, Meth Heads and Politicians.

    At least Darwin will eventually end the meth problem by attrition...

    Not sure what will fix politicians....
     
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  9. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    All the while nothing changes, we heard "hope and change" for almost 8 years but really nothing changed and all hope was consumed...This round what looked like change was more of the same with a different mask, a mask that apparently upsets people, especially those in far left and right fields...We need people in politics who have never served before, across the board, all of them replaced, not just the President...

    ...
     
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  10. baleeber

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    I agree, Nivek! There's a quote I like: "Most people don't realize that the Left Wing and the Right Wing are both parts of the same bird." Or something like that.

    The President and the Congress changes, but it's just a cosmetic change, it's just faces and loud voices for the sake of the circus, all the while, as you said, nothing actually changes in policy. It's all, ultimately, the same thing.
     
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  11. cobalt

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    I tend to focus on the driving force behind people's misery and hate and anger and despair and resentment... the lack of ability to get herbal medications (and regular medications) and I blame: sickness. And aging. If we could fix that problem, people would feel too good to argue about politics and they might actually be able to have a discussion.
     
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  12. Shadowprophet

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    I think it's deeper than what most people realize, I ask everyone to think of a loved one that has passed away... I know it's hard, But, Consider, That illness they passed away from, Somewhere, Someone else survived that very illness because they had better medical care. The Medical care system, It's rigged and unfair, There is a Biased form of population control, And medical care changes from state to state. people are literally being culled, And the rules are different from region to region. I know I sound crazy. But, Who gets the best medical care, is often left up to which states voted which way, and the next thing we know is Grandpa passed away from a complicated toe infection in Idaho because that state didn't vote in a very pleasing way...

    I know I know, I'm crazy. People tell me all the time, I've seen people who don't have power do incredibly hateful and cruel things. But we've all seen people who do have power do cruel inhumane things. Can any of you tell me truthfully that with as much hate as we have seen in the political climate, That powerful groups of people couldn't decide which medical practices take place in which state and use such a system with bias to control the population to grow the way they wanted it too, More republicans, More democrats? More of the kind of voters they want...


    And yes, I do realize how conspiracy theory that sounds, But I fully belive it.
     
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  13. pigfarmer

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    Excellent point. Instead of focusing on whatever the message might be I like to think about who is delivering it, why, and why now? Maybe it's the old repairman in me but I like to think that things happen for a reason. Might be obscure, might not be what you think it is, but likely there's a reason.
     
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  14. cobalt

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    I think that both of you made excellent points. I just happen... to think that... sickness is a freak incident, on this planet. Whereas we have sickness and aging, if aliens exist, chances are, they don't. Most of us grow up taking sickness for granted and the only people who don't are probably the scientists and doctors, rare even in their field. It could be a 2000-3000 (or older) year old ET virus. I think that plants and meds are the ultimate cure, and I think the progression is this: anger = intense pain turned inward. Sickness, and chronic pain, and aging, lead therefore to anger since they cause intense pain. To justify what I'm saying, ask a therapist. Any therapist well-versed in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy will say the same thing, that anger is = to intense pain turned inward. The question is, will we ever as a people and as brothers and sisters get our act together enough to put aside our differences and fight the threat of sickness together, instead of turning a blind eye and losing ourselves in the hoard of arguing, squabbling, warfare, and fighting. If people fought it as a whole, they could help change the food and drug administration to allow more potent healing substances and reverse its agenda about addiction. A case could be made for regulation of potent substances, in how their dolled out to the public, in order to prevent overdoses. You could get a small daily dose at a kiosk set up and if people were not fighting against plants, and meds, and so concerned with addiction, there would be less of a need for expensive insurance and doing these plant extracts illegally running the risk of getting a felony, simply for trying to feel good for once. Let me know what you guys think about this quasi-proposal. I've been working on the idea for a long time, to be honest. I call it something like, a medical societal intervention. :) let me know.
     
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  15. Kchoo

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    Solutions are always present, but implementing them takes a mind that accepts them.

    Many people would call your plan a conspiracy to limit cues and pleasures, and seek drugs illegally anyway, because they would rebel against the controlled nature of it.

    It’s the human condition that is the problem, not the methods of distribution.
     
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