Methods to Combat the COVID-19 Coronavirus

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  1. AlienView

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    I spray my mask lightly with 70% rubbing alcohol before taking it off - Will this kill the virus, maybe.
     
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  2. Shadowprophet

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    Rumor report: This is unconfirmed information that is flying around social media, If anyone knows anything about this, please post here,


    The Rumor: Avoid Ibuprofen, The rumor states that The Coronavirus gets very active like a boost from Ibuprofen, The rumor states that in Italy an alarming number of deaths there Had Ibuprofen in their systems, So to take alternative fever reducers instead.

    Here is a link so people know I'm not just throwing unfounded rumor around,
    The Ibuprofen Debate Reveals the Danger of Covid-19 Rumors

    I would, however, Like more information than this. But I figured this is something people should be made aware of.
     
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  3. nivek

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    I did see this a few days ago...

     
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    Debunking yet more false coronavirus content

    CLAIM: Breathing the steam from a mixture of boiling water, salt and orange peel will prevent or cure the new coronavirus.

    THE FACTS: Steam may help sooth symptoms of the virus, but it will not prevent or cure it. In photo and video posts circulating widely on Facebook and Twitter, people can be seen standing over a pot of boiling water filled with the mixture as they breathe in the steam. In some cases, other items have been added, from chopped onion to aromatic oils. Variations of the videos received thousands of views on social media. “Steam Sea Salt and Orange peelings. Inhale the steam for 15 minutes. It Suppose to Prevent Corona Virus from entering the body. Seen it on social media and yes I’m doing it,“ said one Facebook post featuring a picture of the mixture. Inhaling steam can provide relief from the symptoms of the virus, such as soothing the mucus membranes of the nose or the back of the throat, experts say, but it will not kill the virus. “Those modalities can be helpful, but I don’t think they should be looked at as cures or as treating the underlying virus,” said Dr. Albert Rizzo, chief medical officer for the American Lung Association. Posts online suggested that heat from the steam would also kill the virus, which experts have warned against, especially if a person chooses to stand over a pot of boiling water on the stove. Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University, cautioned against the practice. “A little warm moisture is not going to hurt these viruses,” he said. “People need to be very, very careful about this. You can have all kinds of misadventures if you are leaning over a pot of boiling water.”

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  5. AD1184

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    I think it can be summed up that the only preventions are by avoiding contact with, or distancing yourself from, those potentially infected, or by using adequate protective equipment (and observing aseptic procedures) where this is not possible, and by disinfecting surfaces, delivered packages, etc, to prevent secondary transmission.

    There are as yet no cures. Anything approaching a cure (not yet confirmed, but many are being trialled) will likely be a fairly advanced and difficult-to-produce medicine (and definitely not home-made, or bought over-the-counter). Really any putative 'cure' is more likely to be simply a treatment, potentially reducing the duration and/or intensity of symptoms, but likely not working for everyone, and some sufferers will have contraindications against its use (i.e. from their medical history, there will be good reason to think it would do them more harm than good).

    Eventually there may be a vaccine, but this will not arrive in the current crisis.
     
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  6. nivek

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    We should not only isolate ourselves from people but isolate our pets from contact with other people outside the home they reside in and keep your pets at that home, don't take them in the car out places, its too risky IMO...Its already been confirmed that two dogs and a cat have been infected with Covid-19 from contact from the sick owners, if someone gets Covid-19 they must also stay away from their pets, let someone else in the family take care of the animal or let a friend do it...

    Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus - Pets

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    Here is an interesting interview with Professor Kim Woo Joo of of South Korea, speaking about the Covid-19 epidemic and its handling within Korea. I think it is particularly so from the timestamp I have linked to:

     
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    A Japanese video on respiratory droplet emission:


    There is also this video, associated with a paper recently published by the Journal of the American Medical Association, which shows that sneezes can be propelled up to 26 feet. Thus a six foot separation is not really 'safe' at this time:



    There's also this from six years ago:
     
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  10. nivek

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    I wonder if there's any truth to this claim they have a possible vaccine this quickly...

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    British American Tobacco claims it has developed a coronavirus vaccine made from tobacco plants and can manufacture 3million a week starting in June

    British American Tobacco (BAT) said it can manufacture up to three million doses a week starting in June if it gets support from the UK Government. The unproven vaccine is currently being tested on animals. But BAT is calling on Whitehall to fast-track the vaccine through rigorous human trials which could otherwise take the best part of a year and make the June date impossible. BAT said it had pivoted its vast resources - the company is worth £65.5billion - to fighting the pandemic.


    The company said it had approached the US Food and Drug Administration and UK's Department of Health and Social Care about its vaccine. It hopes to hopes to partner with the government agencies to bring the vaccine to clinical studies this month.

    In a statement it said: 'If testing goes well, BAT is hopeful that, with the right partners and support from government agencies, between 1million and 3million doses of the vaccine could be manufactured per week, beginning in June.' The vaccine is being developed by BAT's subsidiary firm Kentucky BioProcessing (KBP) in the US, using tobacco plant technology.

    KBP has previous experience of fighting outbreaks. It helped develop an effective drug for Ebola in 2014, called ZMapp. BAT said KBP researchers have managed to clone a portion of the coronavirus's genetic sequence and developed a potential antigen.

    An antigen is any substance which the body recognises as an outsider and attacks with the immune system. By injecting someone with a coronavirus antigen - whether an entire one or a part - can trick the body into producing the immune response it would need to fight off the virus for real. This would mean that the body would know how to tackle the virus if someone caught the illness in the future, meaning they could get rid of it before developing symptoms.

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  11. Thomas R. Morrison

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    This is an encouraging development - a lab in San Francisco called Distributed Bio has developed five different antibodies that all bind strongly to the coronavirus receptor that attaches to human cells, simulating the natural human antibody response to the virus. Except in this case an injection of antibodies made in a lab would provide immediate therapeutic benefit (unlike vaccines, which require weeks to begin working in the body as the patient slowly manufactures their own antibodies against infection).

    The lab is sending their antibodies to the military for independent confirmation, and if the antibodies pass safety trials over the summer they expect to begin providing them for limited patient treatment as early as September. Here's the company's CEO Dr. Jacob Glanville answering questions about this hopeful potential cure for COVID-19:



    I'm sorry to be so blunt, but everything about that story reeks of BS. We might as well try Forsythia extract.

    And as Dr. Glanville stated in this interview - if antimalarial drugs like hydroxychloroquine offered any significant protection against the coronavirus, then people treated with it in tropical regions would be exhibiting immunity to it. But there's been no indication of that, so if there's any therapeutic benefit at all of using hydroxychloroquine (or any cocktail involving it), then the benefit must be very modest.
     
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    Just an idea. Maybe some kind of electronic cigarette can help with this infection through some additive to normal vaping juice. Some kind of desifectant harmless to lungs but bad for viruses.

    I am saying this because when one is vaping vapour spreads through all the lungs. So it can carry something anti viral.
     
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    Can Antivirals Beat COVID-19?

    What happens to your body when you take antiviral medication for Coronavirus / COVID19?
     
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  14. AD1184

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    Disinfectants work because they are harmful to viruses and bacterial cells, and if they are harmful to those, then they are usually harmful to human tissue also, especially something so delicate as a lung.
     
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    Coronavirus is not the flu. It's worse.



    This Video is Handy it teaches a little about a Viruses Basic reproduction Number or R0. It describes why this Virus is different than the Flu even though they share many symptoms in common.
     
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    President Trump recommends using face masks, but says it's voluntary

    President Trump announced on Friday that his administration would recommend Americans wear homemade masks or face coverings to prevent the spread of COVID-19 — but he repeatedly emphasized that the guidance is “voluntary.”

    “It’s going to be really a voluntary thing,” Trump said during a White House briefing with reporters. “You can do it. You don't have to do it. I'm choosing not to do it, but some people may want to do it, and that's okay.”

    The guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a turnaround for the agency, which told the public at the beginning of the outbreak that healthy people should not buy or wear masks because it would not protect them from contracting the disease.

    But research released in recent weeks indicates people can have the virus, not show symptoms and unknowingly spread it to others. Wearing face coverings could help prevent that. However, the CDC doesn’t want people wearing or purchasing the surgical masks or n95 respirators that are in short supply and needed for medical professionals.

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  20. pigfarmer

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    Haven't been any N95 masks around here for weeks but maybe this cool m1895 mask will do ....

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