North Korea

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  1. Gambeir

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    Umm..so an American Pastor, born in South Korea, which makes no sense at all BTW, is being held in North Korea for spying? Or is it because he was arrested for spying but was really arrested for molesting kids, but since no communist country can or will admit that such a thing is possible in their own nation, then the guy is instead charged with a cover crime of spying?

    I mean who knows about these things and who cares? Why should I care if some nitwit has chosen to travel inside North Korea? Sounds about as smart as a white guy deciding he'd just take a nice walk through the middle of a black ghetto, or a black guy deciding he would just push his shopping cart through Beverly Hills: No chance the cops are gonna stop me huh?
     
  2. nivek

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    Kim Jong Un received a USB from South Korea's president with a blueprint for connecting North Korea with the world
    • Kim Jong Un received a USB from South Korea's president during their summit at the DMZ in April.
    • The USB contained a presentation and e-book containing a blueprint for economic cooperation between the two countries that could link North Korea to Russia, China, and Europe through trade and trains.
    • The USB appears to provide a further incentive for Kim to keep the agreements made between North and South Korea at the summit.


    The purpose of giving Kim the flash drive appears to be an attempt to further convince Kim that North Korea needs international economic support rather than sanctions.

    "The USB makes the case to Kim - there really is another path for you," John Delury, a North Korea expert at Yonsei University, told Axios. "[It says] we're serious about working with you for what we think is your real ambition - to be a wealthy East Asian country."

     
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  3. humanoidlord

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    once again, what is happening? sudden korean unification out of nowhere, why?
     
  4. nivek

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    Previous posts discuss this...
     
  5. humanoidlord

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    i think we aren't seeing the full picture yet, its not just china
     
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  6. nivek

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    Obviously you haven't read what I indicated...no worries...
     
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  7. Toroid

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  8. Caeldeth

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    Its not really sudden. Talks of unification have been happening between the north and south since about 2011. Then when the Olympics were in South Korea they really started to go full throttle.
     
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  9. nivek

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  10. nivek

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    So was this all a ruse to begin with?...Sounds like NK is going back to their old rhetoric...

    North Korea threatens to CANCEL nuclear summit with Trump because it believes 'provocative military ruckus' of joint U.S.-South Korea drills are rehearsal for invasion
    • June 12 Singapore summit between Trump and Kim is suddenly in jeopardy
    • North Korean government blames joint U.S.-South Korea military exercises
    • Pyongyang sees the drills as a rehearsal for a full-scale invasion
    • Kim also canceled meeting with South Korea's president on a few hours' notice
     
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  11. CasualBystander

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    We'll see. Some of this is posturing, some of this is paranoia.

    The US has helped depose two depots that gave up their weapons. Kim should be suspicious.

    But they didn't have a border with China.

    We have no reason to depose Kim. He apparently hates the rest of his family more than we do.
     
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  12. August

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  13. Toroid

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    This could be a ploy to divide forces if there's a full scale conflict with Israel. I heard what's going on in the Middle is the Gog Magog war. It looks like they want to adhere to the prophecy/script.
    Tracking Bible Prophecy: The Gog and Magog War
     
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  14. nivek

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    Didn't Kim start changing his tune after he met with the Chinese recently?...
     
  15. Toroid

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    He supposedly got spooked after the joint military drills. Trump said recently that Xi Jinping is a world class poker player.
     
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  16. CasualBystander

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  18. nivek

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    Yeah now the summit is called off completely, wtf...
     
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  19. CasualBystander

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    Well...

    There are two things going on.

    1. US idiocy
    2. Korean idiocy.

    I was angered when Obama aided the rebels against Qaddafi.

    Yet another instance of Obama being a (pardon the expression) asshole.

    Qaddafi bargained away his nukes in good faith. Then we attacked him.

    No dictator should ever trust the US again, particularly with nuclear disarmament.

    Both Pense and Bolton mentioned Qaddafi as a model. To them it meant total disarmament.

    To North Korea it meant - after we sucker you in we will attack you.

    Mentioning Qaddafi is a jerk move.

    The Koreans weren't returning our phone calls and did not meet with the planning team. That (and some other things) were a planned insult.

    They wanted us to beg for the meeting and lose face.


    Trump did the only thing he could. He wrote a very polite letter to Kim calling off the meeting since there seemed to be tensions.

    Now the ball is in Kim's court.

    The Korean's gained nothing and simply delayed the meeting.

    North Korea responded almost immediately

    Bloomberg on Twitter

    The bottom line:
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    They now know that if they mess with Trump he will walk away. This limits the amount of posturing they can do.

    However, we are going to have to offer them an ironclad agreement they won't be Qaddafied.


    Damn, Obama is such a jerk it just infuriates me.

    Update:

    Trump Blames China’s Xi Jinping for Sabotaging the Kim Jong Un Summit

    Further it looks like XI (China) put Kim up to this to test Trump.

    It has been annoying for 30 years. The handling of the Kims has been so ham handed it makes you believe Trump's predecessors, from both parties, were mentally deficient.
     
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