Old Encounters

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  1. The shadow

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    1st hand account of the 1561 nurenbirg UFO war.
    "In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. Whatever such signs mean, God alone knows. Although we have seen, shortly one after another, many kinds of signs on the heaven, which are sent to us by the almighty God, to bring us to repentance, we still are, unfortunately, so ungrateful that we despise such high signs and miracles of God. Or we speak of them with ridicule and discard them to the wind, in order that God may send us a frightening punishment on account of our ungratefulness. After all, the God-fearing will by no means discard these signs, but will take it to heart as a warning of their merciful Father in heaven, will mend their lives and faithfully beg God, that He may avert His wrath, including the well-deserved punishment, on us, so that we may temporarily here and perpetually there, live as his children. For it, may God grant us his help, Amen. By Hanns Glaser, letter-painter of Nurnberg. Himmelserscheinung_über_Nürnberg_vom_14._April_1561.jpg
    This reads like a scene out of star wars.
    2 groups of UFOs fighting each other.
    Some crashing to the ground
    The frightened towns folk hiding in the church. Sounds definitely like intelligent controlled craft to me.
     
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  2. Skepticide123

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    I have a theory about that event and the other in Basel. I think the objects seen at Farmington, NM are the same ones returning after being created at Nuremburg and then traveling elsewhere and returning for a period. I'd suspect they are basically von Neumann probes that were created in the tubes and then came out like a swarm of insects some were defective and were destroyed or "died". These same kinds of probes were witnessed by astronomers in Russia according to Zigel, and of course there are the silver ball foo fighters in WW II. Same kind of thing, like Go Fast.
    If you read the descriptions of the movements of the objects in 1561, they rushed toward each other in aerial "combat" some heated up and were destroyed, burning on the ground. If you read the accounts of Farmington witnesses, they mention the objects rushing at each other and at the last minute they change locations before colliding. so you have big rolling waves of square formations of these objects. You can see them in the one surviving photo from Farmington that might have escaped confiscation or destruction because it had been sent to Scotland at the time:
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    You can see the ports on the objects flying in formation that have the smaller objects emerging from them.
    I enhanced one of the little spheres once in Photoshop, and there were little spicules that could be seen on them.
     
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  4. The shadow

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  5. Skepticide123

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    You bet! It is very much like the situation in 1561. These kind of small probe-like objects are basically non-human drones.
    Zigel mentions saucers creating them and then they fly off. They can be created or budded off on demand, imo, and are made of some kind of programmable matter. The amazing thing about these devices is that they can be very small --like the small discs seen climbing up the sides of missiles at White Sands --and still be under perfect control, and defy gravity.

    This is a great article. He mentions observations of discs through 8x magnification binoculars
    The Bryan Times - Google News Archive Search

    They are the same thing as many of the foo fighters:
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    This is a great article about the Farmington Incident:
    1950: The Farmington UFO Armada - Think AboutIt

    "John Bloomfield, another employee of Smoak’s garage, said the objects he saw traveled at a speed that appeared to him to be about 10 times faster than that of jet planes. In addition, he said the objects frequently made right-angle turns."
    Farmington:
    They appeared to be coming at each other head-on,” he related. “At the last second, one would veer at right angles upward, the other at right angles downward. One saucer would pass another and immediately the one to the rear would zoom into the lead.”

    1651:
    "These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. "
     
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  7. Skepticide123

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    Portage County UFO Chase, 1966
    The inspiration for the chase at beginning of Close Encounters



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    Can you see the police car at bottom of photo?
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  8. The shadow

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    Here is the Basel encounter 1566. One of seemly many UFO wars seen during the 1500s and 1600s
    During the year 1566, on the 27th of July, after the sun had shone warm on the clear, bright skies, and then around 9 pm, it suddenly took a different shape and color. First, the sun lost all its radiance and luster, and it was no bigger than the full moon, and finally it seemed to weep tears of blood and the air behind him went dark. And he was seen by all the people of the city and countryside. In much the same way also the moon, which has already been almost full and has shone through the night, assuming an almost blood-red color in the sky. The next day, Sunday, the sun rose at about six o'clock and slept with the same appearance it had when it was lying before. He lit the houses, streets and around as if everything was blood-red and fiery. At the dawn of August 7, we saw large black spheres coming and going with great speed and precipitation before the sun and chattered as if they led a fight. Many of them were fiery red and, soon crumbled and then extinguished LinkSeltsame_Gestalt_so_in_disem_MDLXVI_Jar.jpg
     
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    I always had interest in cases that involved law enforcement. Most cops are sober minded and not prone to embellish the facts at hand.
     
  10. Skepticide123

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    I think you are right, and other people saw it too. I've had skeptics say cops are poor witnesses, and witnesses generally can't be relied upon. While I think that remembering mundane events it might be possible for some confusion, bizarre anomalous events are burned into people's minds --there are days when I wish I could get what I saw out of my mind, but I can't. There is the possibility that individuals who have seen anomalous things might, in their quest to remember more or get answers, confabulate, but that would depend on the individual.

    Circumstantial Evidence is still Evidence:
    Circumstantial evidence - Wikipedia.
     
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  12. The shadow

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    What's your take on the flatwoods monster case?
    Alien?
    Robot?
    Owl?
    Or something else?
     
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    I just don't know on that one.. There are a lot of cases that perplex me. Humanoids too.
     
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    Mate, once looked into that one and it truly is a fascinating case - will post a thread on it.
    Cheers.
     
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  15. pigfarmer

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    Sorry if you posted it and I missed it, but can you connect any of these to Blue Book (or its predecessors) reports?
    Curious
     
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    Hi pigfarmer, I haven't done so systematically, personally, but here is a link to the unknowns:
    http://cufos.org/pdfs/BB_Unknowns-1.26.pdf
    The cases I have focused on are pretty well known. One could searchn through that PDF looking for similar sightings --I'll be there are many.
     
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  17. Skepticide123

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    Here is "The Five" apparently again from BB:
    Jan. 28, 1953. Corona, Calif. 6:05 p.m. USAF T/Sgt. George Beyer saw five 25 ft green spheres fly in V formation, then change to trail formation at which time the end objects turned red. (Sparks; Berliner) 12 mins 1 895. 2365 Jan. 28, 1953. Turner AFB (31°36' N, 84° 6' W), Dobbins,
     
  18. nivek

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    A giant orb?...

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  19. Skepticide123

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    Okay, Onward!
    There might be some duplicate articles posted. Apologies in advance.
     
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    San Francisco Call, Volume 80, Number 172, 19 November 1896
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    Airship snippets. Note the immense altitude and "smoke" in last one.
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