Patriots fans burn team jerseys after players take a knee during National Anthem

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  1. nivek

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    I never looked at this as a political issue, left or right, and understand why this first started but this kneeling to me is piecemeal at best...The national anthem doesn't need to be played at sporting events, I'm not so much into professional sports anyway, but my view is these players have a job to do and this is one of the extras in that job, to stand...

    Now back to my piecemeal comment, yes it is piecemeal, if these players are truly and sincerely concerned about alleged police brutality then why are they not doing more in their off hours of the NFL?...Spend some of those millions of dollars of their "hard earned money" and actually try to make a difference?...Kneeling is like armchair support...

    There are also many many false cases of alleged police brutality, the african-american woman who recently said she was abused and raped by a police only to find out she lied when the body cam was released...Same goes for an african-american man who said he was abused and if memory serves he claimed to be ruffed up by the police but once body cam footage was released, he also lied...

    There's a tic for tac mentality in many people's head which I believe has stemmed from politics, which politics needs to really stay in the political arena, the negativity on both sides of the political isle is what's really harming people these days and dividing us...Perhaps there's a hidden conspiracy agenda or element involved in promoting this extremism and divisions?...Who knows but its prevalent almost everywhere and its sad to see...

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  2. CasualBystander

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    Yeah, kinda.

    I just thought they were assh*les.

    Roughly half of the killers in the US are black. Blacks 16-24 kill at 12 times the national average and are disproportionately represented in the drug supply chain.

    The odds of getting shot by a cop are proportional to the number of interactions.

    Blacks have a lot of police interactions. Assuming that about 20% of white suspects are guilty picking up a 16-24 year old black is like picking up a white suspect - you just don't know what they did.

    Further blacks have bad police interaction skills that they seem to make no attempt to improve.

    Saying "Good evening officer, what may I do for you?" works much better than "F*cking pig".

    washingtonpost/data-police-shootings
    You can browse the statistics but police mostly shoot white people.

    If police are going to shoot white people it is racist to say they shouldn't shoot black people.
     
  3. Gambeir

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    Sports of all kinds, but especially group sporting activities, are all linked to social engineering programs supported by a variety of sources for many reasons, but their roots and origins are pure military as part of a educational indoctrination process to group cohesion, group think, and ultimately to group control.

    This focus on sporting activities begins in schools and is an important part of public schools because it is a vital part of a process of indoctrination's which are designed to produce a specific kind of mentality necessary for use in military operations. The primary purpose of education is to produce automatic reflex response to authority.


    They may think they are protesting police abuse of power, but they are also the role models and icons which the military has carefully chosen to carry the flag of group obedience.
     
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  4. Gambeir

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    The issue is not a matter of statistics, it's a matter of subversion of the due processes of law, justice, and equality.

    Now how this is going to play out considering the military dependence on the minorities of this American Empire will be interesting to watch. My experience is the US Military has a very large representation of minorities and is very dependent upon them, more so now than ever before despite using college debt as hidden means to recruitment.

    People in America are supposed to have direct control over local authority; including the military, and which is supposed to be your own kid in a local militia being drilled in the school yard by an elected official, presumably and most likely a noted military non~com and some chosen retired or active officer. That's the system created by President Washington and was the system which we can still see the remains of today in the form of fortress like structures called Armory's before it was corrupted by corporate crime.

    So the people are supposed to have direct control over law enforcement by electing a sheriff who represents a local community and is immune from the powers of central authority except by special exemptions such as invasion or natural disasters, and the military is supposed to be subservant to civil authority and thus able to be employed by the sheriff in time of need (read here ~no swat needed).

    Black communities are not policed by representatives of their community and whom would in all likely hood see things quite differently than invaders from the white suburbs, which is about the same thing as being a northern invader in the deep south in 1862: You're not going to be popular.
     
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  5. nivek

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    These sporting events are used as a recruitment outlet whether subtle or not in some cases, it is obvious and actually an important element in this discussion...This makes it more apparent as to why the national anthem is played at the beginning of the games and why people make such a fuss out of it...

    Although I have also made a fuss about it lol, my reasons are different, because its part of the job for the players and kneeling is disrespectful to everyone with all the money their making off these games, but take the national anthem out and it won't be an issue anymore...National pride is healthy to a point, it shouldn't leak through to all of our social gatherings though...

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  6. CasualBystander

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    Umm... Where have you been?

    The DC police force is majority black.

    Pretty soon (because of gentrification) they are going to be a minority again.

    And over 90% of murdered blacks are killed by blacks. Only 7.5% of blacks are killed by whites. 13.6% of whites are killed by blacks.

    In raw numbers blacks kill 2.5 times as many whites as whites kill blacks.
     
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  7. Gambeir

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    So DC is now the United States?

    So if I were to believe you, and living here in Seattle I've no way to check so probably another fib, but even if DC has a lot of black cops whom are also making 60 to 80K a year, do you think they are cops because of what reason: Because they care about their own community, or because they care about the money and supposed retirement pensions that come with it? Same reason people seek careers in education and firefighting and as government employees: Money and retirement pension.

    Again another fail: These people are not members of the community, they are not there because they are members of the community, they are there for purposes of greed and security. Therefore they do whatever they are told and don't care about anything which doesn't serve them specifically. They do their time, ten, twenty or thirty years and then leave and that's all they care about.
     
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    I quote facts (in 2016 55% of the DC police force was Black).

    And I get mumble mumble.

    Your point was invalid - at least locally.

    What is the genetic failure that makes black motivation different than white motivation???

    I'm unaware of a study that says blacks are inherently greedier and more selfish than whites (but your point may be true).
     
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  10. 3FEL9

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    On May 23, 2018, the NFL Commissioner and the NFL team owners approved a new policy requiring all players to stand during the national anthem or given the option to stay in the locker room during the national anthem.

    So its decided ..
     
  11. Caeldeth

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    Pretty much just changing the rule back to pre 2009.
     
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  12. CasualBystander

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    A REAL Redskins has two favorite teams.

    The Washington Redskins.

    Anybody playing the Dallas Cowboys.
     
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    If the fans didn't wait until the players took the Jerseys off to burn the Jerseys - would it still be considered free speech???
     
  14. Caeldeth

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    Are you trying to say people should be burned for... kneeling?
     
  15. CasualBystander

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    Just asking the question.
     
  16. Caeldeth

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    Ok armchair patriot.

    It would be murder, and also probably a hate crime considering your talking about lynching some black folk. Then you would be in a world of shit, hanging out in federal pound me in the ass prison, with a bunch of other black folk who would want to do a whole lot worse to you then burn you. Answer your question?
     
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  17. The shadow

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    think you know the star spangled banner? you don't!
    here is the whole song!
     
  18. AlterEgo

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    The Indians want their redskin name back from the Redskins
     
  19. CasualBystander

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    I thought it was derogatory.

    Why do they want us to go back to calling them redskins???

    It is ok with me though. That will save confusion since the only "Indians" will be from India.

    I won't have to call them "Tame Indians" and "Wild Indians" to tell them apart anymore.
     
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