Protests & Unrest

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by Toroid, May 31, 2020.

  1. Dejan Corovic

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    Yeah, there is much more to the story. Police had become an unelected and untouchable political force in its own right. Here are the facts:

    How Police Unions Fight Reform
     
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  2. nivek

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    Besides different distorted motivations I don't see the actions of this 18yo kid being any different than if an Isis militant were the one who tossed that explosive device at the building...Different motivations, same outcome desired, regardless of whether our governing system is corrupt and useless, we cannot allow this destruction continue...I think it's time to send in the National Guard immediately in full force and stop the insanity, enough is enough...

    WATCH: Portland man charged, video allegedly shows him throwing bomb

    "No legitimate protest message is advanced by throwing a large explosive device against a government building,” U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams said Friday. “Mr. Agard-Berryhill’s actions could have gravely injured law enforcement officers positioned near the courthouse, other protesters standing nearby, or himself.”

    “I applaud the ATF agents and U.S. Marshals Service deputies who worked quickly to identify Mr. Agard-Berryhill before he had an opportunity to hurt others,” he added.




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  3. Rick Hunter

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    Need to hit him with an unregistered destructive device charge too, good way to extend his stay at the Graybar Resort.
     
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  4. pigfarmer

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    Maybe I'm getting my bomb throwing militants mixed up, but didn't his grandmother accidentally out him because of the vest he was wearing with a Facebook post or something? The kid said somebody he didn't know handed it to him.

    Very pick-you-favorite-group-of-terrorists behavior if true.
     
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    First-time gun owners speak out about rising crime, as weapon purchases spike

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    At the beginning of June, the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) announced that more than 2.5 million people had become first-time gun owners in the first half of 2020.

    January to June 1 of 2020, was “unlike any other year for firearm purchases — particularly by first-time buyers — as new NSSF research reveals millions of people chose to purchase their first gun during the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Jim Curcuruto, the shooting foundation's director of research and market development, at the time.

    NSSF data show a record number of gun transactions – 10.3 million – were processed in the country during that time period.

    “First off,” Curcuruto wrote in a July 21 blog post, “approximately 90 percent of retailers reported an increase in firearm and ammunition sales during the first half of 2020 versus the first half of 2019. How big are those increases? Responding retailers noted that they are seeing a 95 percent increase in firearm sales and a 139 percent increase in ammunition sales over the same period in 2019.”

    When asked if she was surprised by the number of first-time buyers during the first half of 2020, Carlene said “not at all.”

    "When I went into this shop, where we purchased our guns, they're completely on back order," she said. "We don't even know actually the exact date that we're going to get possession because they have thousands of people on back order.”


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  7. Rick Hunter

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    I work at a gun shop part time, and yes this is certainly true!
     
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  8. pigfarmer

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    Now you're making me jealous! Only one I want to work at is a bit too far away.

    One popular statistic that doesn't get much traction is that people who don't know WTF they are doing with firearms have a far higher chance of having it taken away and used against them.

    Those morons in St.Louis waving an AR and a handgun at protestors were total dumbasses. Had the crowd been kicking their door in or setting fire to the house, then maybe a different story. But putting on a fat parade with guns, nooooo. Don't think so.

    You can include anyone who needs to attend a protest with a firearm to that dumbass list. Waving those things around might not turn out quite as anticipated. the presence of guns only serves to amp up any situation.

    Case in point below.

    Going to be difficult to cry racism with this guy and I hope that things are what they appear to be and he's acquitted. He still has to live with it. Not certain how I would deal with that justified or not.

    Army sergeant says he's the one who shot a protester to death in Austin


    Army sergeant says he's the one who shot a protester to death in Austin By Brian Dakss July 31, 2020

    A U.S. Army sergeant said he's the person who shot and killed a Black Lives Matter protester in downtown Austin, Texas, on Saturday night and he did it in self-defense, according to the law firm representing him. The disclosure comes as Austin police seek the public's help to learn more about the events that led to the shooting. No one has been arrested or charged in connection with it.


    Different accounts have emerged.

    What's clear is that 27-year-old Garrett Foster was shot by a motorist who had just turned onto the avenue where the demonstration was being held.

    Police said Sunday that they had received a 911 call from someone saying they'd shot someone at the protest who'd approached their vehicle and pointed a rifle at them. In Texas, it's legal to carry a weapon in public without a permit as long as it isn't done in a "manner calculated to alarm."

    Police said they brought that person in for questioning, along with another person who claimed he or she had fired back at the vehicle as it drove away.

    Attorney Clint Broden, of Dallas-based Broden, Mickelsen, LLP, said late Thursday night that Sergeant Daniel Perry, an eight-year veteran, was in Austin driving for a ride-share company when he turned onto Congress Avenue and "encountered a throng of people in the street." Perry didn't know about the protest, Broden said.


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    After Perry made the turn, "several people started beating on his vehicle," Broden asserts.
    At that point, according to Broden, someone carrying an assault rifle "quickly approached the car and then motioned with the assault rifle for Mr. Perry to lower his window. Sgt. Perry initially believed the person was associated with law enforcement and complied with the command. After rolling down the window, it became apparent to Perry that the individual with the assault rifle was not with law enforcement.

    "It has now been confirmed by several witnesses that this individual with the assault rifle then began to raise the assault rifle toward Sgt. Perry. It was only then that Sgt. Perry, who carried a handgun in his car for his own protection while driving strangers in the ride share program, fired on the person to protect his own life.

    "Immediately after Sgt. Perry fired on the individual who raised the assault rifle toward him, a member of the crowd began firing on Sgt. Perry's vehicle. Sgt. Perry drove to safety and immediately called the police. He waited for the police to arrive and fully cooperated with the police following the shooting and he continues to do so."

    "... Sgt. Perry and his family deeply sympathize with the loss and grief being experienced by Mr. Foster's family. Sgt. Perry is devastated by what happened."

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    Garrett Foster and his fiancee in undated photo.


    But James Sasinowski, who was among the demonstrators, told Chris Cuomo on CNN on Monday night that, "The thing I want to make extremely clear … (is that) the driver intentionally and aggressively accelerated their vehicle into a crowd of people. That is extremely clear. … He incited the violence. Period."


    Independent journalist Hiram Gilberto Garcia said he interviewed Foster in a video on Periscope prior to the shooting. During the interview, Foster said he was carrying an AK-47.

    "They don't let us march in the streets anymore, so I've got to practice some of my rights," he said. He said he didn't think he would use it, because "if I use it against the cops, I'm dead." He said he didn't think the people who "hate us" would shoot at them.

    His mother told The Dallas Morning News her son had been bringing a gun to the protests, which he'd been attending with his fiancee, who is a quadruple amputee. In the Periscope video, the fiancee said they'd been protesting "for a month and a half."

    CBS Austin affiliate KEYE-TV said Austin police are now asking anyone with relevant information on the shooting, including original video footage or images, to come forward.
     
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  9. Rick Hunter

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    Agree 1000% with everything you have said here. The people in Saint Louis should have remained in their home and, if they believed that the protesters were breaking the law and/or creating a hazard, call the coppers as that is the basic reason that they exist. If I think a situation has a potential for violence then I avoid it whenever possible, and I sure as hell don't add fuel to the fire by overtly displaying weapons. I always carry concealed because it's really nobody's business whether I carry or not. The protesters on either side of the issue carrying assault rifles while dressed in Call of Duty outfits are giving the gun-ban crowd a gift that just keeps on giving. Why do none of them ever consider this?
     
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  10. pigfarmer

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    Hey @Rick Hunter I thought a hobby thread might be interesting: hobbies
     
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  11. pigfarmer

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    A bit surprised this hasn't made more of a splash

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts...ws-contributor-his-white-privilege-hes-black/

    A CNN analyst called out a Fox News contributor for his ‘white privilege.’ He’s black

    Oops.

    Indeed.

    But while we're at it I'm calling out Donald Duck for his white privilege.

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    Seems to me that Daffy always got the crappy end of the stick. It's ALWAYS duck hunting season. Maybe now we can finally have an honest conversation about this inequity.
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  15. Rick Hunter

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    Good for the poor urchins stuck over there!
     
  16. nivek

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    More than 60 Portland 911 calls go unanswered overnight as police respond to 'violent, tumultuous' riot with protesters throwing 'softball-sized' rocks and glass bottles at cops at 3am on 80th night of unrest

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    A riot was declared around midnight Sunday in Portland as protesters gathered outside the Penumbra Kelly building. Over 60 calls to Portland police went unheeded overnight as officers were deployed to quell the protests where officers used crowd control munitions. Protesters threw 'softball size' rocks, glass bottles, pointed green lasers at officers' eyes, the police department reported. Cops tried to disperse protesters from midnight to about 3am local time. Two Portland officers were injured in the riot by rocks thrown from the crowd.

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  20. pigfarmer

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    This is getting a little too real for my taste. My niece is a single mom with a new baby and a small business - in Kenosha.

    We spoke for a bit last night, she said that there are outsiders coming in from all over the place and that it's literally chaos in the streets. She can't just bug out for safety's sake - obligations. Her block formed some sort of community group so there's always someone on watch. Quite a few businesses have been put to the torch as well as at least one municipal building. She runs a group home and is worried they're going to burn the place. She's literally right in the middle of this crap.

    And all that in the midst of a pandemic.

    Put your mask on when you go out and maintain your social distance, unless of course you're protesting and agitating. If so you're obviously totally immune to covid, can't spread it and everything should be just fine. Don't even worry about it, get back to the wanton destruction, random violence and other means of correcting social injustice.
     
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