the 2020 election

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  1. Dejan Corovic

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  2. AlienView

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    This is of course possible - But is there any evidence of arson?
     
  3. nivek

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    Yep there is more evidence of arson than to blame it on climate change which there is no evidence these fires are the result of climate change which I think is impossible to prove...

    Here's just two examples, Google it and you will find more...

    El Dorado Fire sparked by a gender reveal party has grown to more than 10,000 acres - CNN

    Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint


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  4. The shadow

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    AOC says Dems 'likely' can push Biden more left if elected

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., expressed optimism that progressive Democrats can “likely” push Joe Biden further to the left if he’s elected president.

    She noted that Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-VT, is reportedly concerned that Biden is not far left enough, an assessment she said she agrees with.

    "We're different people, and clearly I, in the primary, one of the reasons why I was supportive of Senator Sanders was because of how progressive his stances are, but, you know, the primaries are over, and right now what is most important is to make sure that we ensure a Democratic victory in November and that we continue to push Vice President Biden on issues from marijuana to climate change to foreign policy,” Ocasio-Cortez told “Just the News” in an interview Tuesday.

    "I think, overall, we can likely push Vice President Biden in a more progressive direction across policy issues," she said. "I think foreign policy is an enormous area where we can improve; immigration is another one.”

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    So now another staffer has been attacked, how can the police think this has nothing to do with politics if the attacker(s) remain at large?...How can they know the motivation of the attacker if still at large?...

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    2 aides for Ilhan Omar challenger shot, 1 killed; no apparent links to election

    A second person who also had worked for Republican Lacy Johnson was wounded in the attack Monday. Both police and Johnson, a businessman who is challenging Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar, said the attack didn't appear to have anything to do with politics or the campaign.

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    Russia Continues Interfering in Election to Try to Help Trump, U.S. Intelligence Says

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    WASHINGTON — Russia is using a range of techniques to denigrate Joseph R. Biden Jr., American intelligence officials said Friday in their first public assessment that Moscow continues to try to interfere in the 2020 campaign to help President Trump.

    At the same time, the officials said China preferred that Mr. Trump be defeated in November and was weighing whether to take more aggressive action in the election.

    But officials briefed on the intelligence said that Russia was the far graver, and more immediate, threat........"

    Russia Continues Interfering in Election to Try to Help Trump, U.S. Intelligence Says
     
  12. pigfarmer

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    Minneapolis is experiencing a surge in crime and violence and for some strange reason it's police department isn't responding with the usual efficacy. Very odd. I wonder why in the world that might be the case.

    What a bunch of total dumbasses.
     
  13. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Take note, folks - this is what propaganda looks like. Multiple and generally unnamed "intelligence sources" make radical claims without providing a shred of corroborating evidence, exploiting decades of Red Scare xenophobia.

    I've dug until my fingers bled, looking for a single shred of solid empirical evidence that Vlad Putin skewed the 2016 election. I found nothing. Instead, I found a handful of tiny Russian troll farms doing what they always do to generate clicks on social media - posting stupid memes that nobody like or shares, which had zero impact on the outcome of the 2016 election - in fact half of the troll farm posts that the intelligence community cites as "election inference by Russia" were posted after the election. And how much did these troll farms spend on Google ads, for example? About $4000, according to Google's CEO testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    Sure Trump is revolting, mentally incompetent, and morally bankrupt. But the Russians didn't get him elected. The Democrats did, by rigging their nomination for the most reviled right-wing corporatist warmonger in modern US political history.

    The Democratic leadership is directly responsible for the Trump presidency. That's why they're scapegoating the Russians.
     
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    Hilarious. They don't think that they can push him to the left while he's running for office and he needs the votes of actual liberals (anti-war, pro-healthcare, pro-education leftists) in order to win...but he'll be all ears after he safely secures the position that he lusted after his entire life. The only thing the Democrats are better at than lying, is telling fairy tales like this one.

    Biden and Trump are equally revolting and unacceptable and US elections are a tragic sham.
     
  15. pigfarmer

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    In that you and I are on the same page.

    Voice of America. If you want to pick the one country that sticks its nose in everybody else's business it's the one we're living in. There is a reason that Russia is irritated with us over Ukraine. I do not think they are 'meddling in our elections' as they have been accused of. They're just doing what everyone else including us does.

    Sometime recently I heard an NPR broadcast - just can't remember where. An Anonymous hacker was discussing real, direct influence on elections in Africa and the actual methods employed had nothing to do with changing tallies, it was a bit more complex than that. I'll post it if I find it.

    As detestable as DT can be he is a separate issue. He is a symptom of what's wrong not the problem. I think the Founders would see this for what it is - an attempt at the usurpation of power of one branch over the other.
     
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    an no matter what they'll be contested and we'll be rolling around in shit for the next few years
     
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    I know we're in the age of coronavirus which is a huge distraction for the world and coming up on a year duration, and then the years previous we had the impeachment scam, but you can't take this away from President Trump, he hasn't started a war...

    In fact since Franklin D. Roosevelt was President beginning in 1933 there have been only two Presidents that have not started a war during their time as President...Those two people are Richard Nixon and Donald Trump, they both have inherited wars but none they started themselves...

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  18. nivek

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    Yep, this is likely one of the main reasons anything and everything is being politicized these days, the Democratic party actions, all of them, have helped ensure Trump's victory in 2016 and they are doing it again for 2020...Bunch of jackasses repeating their same mistakes but with more intensity this time around which will likely give Trump a landslide victory...Whoever is calling the plays for them isn't worth a frak, they need a new coach or get out of the game...If you look objectively at Trump's Presidency as a whole, it's really not that bad at all, yeah he's a buffoon, but we have had worse Presidents than him...So it comes down to rolling the dice on the Muppet show or keep sailing on this ship 4 more years, that is, if our votes count for something...

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  19. nivek

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    We already know what we're getting with Trump if he's reelected, he hasn't wrecked the place (yet) and isn't a career politician, whilst on the other table, well we really don't know what we're getting yet...They say a lot of fancy words but it's more like what Nancy Pelosi said when asked if she read the 1000 plus pages of the obamacare bill they were pushing through Congress; something to the effect of 'we have to pass it first to see what's in it'...We won't know what we're getting ourselves into with Biden/Harris, or is it Harris/Biden, because they haven't really said, the only clear message I get from the Democrats is how much they hate Trump and their actions follow those words without missing a step...

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  20. AlienView

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    Actually you can't get any worse than DT - Even if Joe Biden had advanced dementia he could not do worse than Donald Trump.
    But with Trump its not incompetence, its part of his agenda whatever that is:

    The Psychopath in Chief

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    I spent hundreds of hours with Donald Trump to ghost-write ‘The Art of the Deal.’ I now see a deeper meaning behind his behavior."

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    “Imagine — if you can — not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken … You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences, will most likely remain undiscovered. How will you live your life? What will you do with your huge and secret advantage?”

    — Martha Stout, ""The Sociopath Next Door"

    Among the accomplishments Donald Trump parades most proudly is that he has won 18 golf club championships. Like so many of his claims, this one is pure fiction. When the sportswriter Rick Reilly investigated for his book "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump, he found that 16 of the claims were transparently false, and no evidence existed to support the other two. In one instance, Trump said he had won a championship at the Bedminster, New Jersey, club he owns, even though he was in Philadelphia on the day the event was held.

    When Trump does play, Reilly reported, he takes “mulligans” (extra strokes that aren’t counted in one’s score ), throws opponent’s balls off the greens and into the bunkers, and kicks his own errant shots back onto the fairway so often that one of his caddies nicknamed him Pele, after the soccer star. “Trump doesn’t just cheat at golf,” Reilly concluded. “He cheats like a three-card Monty dealer. He throws it, boots it and moves it. He lies about his lies. He fudges and foozles and fluffs.”

    How do we deal with a person whose core impulse in every part of his life is to deny, deceive, deflect, disparage, and double-down every time he is challenged? And what precisely is the danger such a person poses if he also happens to be the leader of the free world, during a crisis in which thousands of people are dying every day, with no letup in sight?............"

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    I guess that is why the Russians {supposedly} want him to win.
    Four more years of Donald Trump as President and the United States will no longer exist.
     

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