the 2020 election

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by The shadow, Jan 2, 2020.

  1. pigfarmer

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    And now RBG dropped dead.... the fat's in the fire now boy-o, they can't just play Weekend at Bernie's with her remains until January.

    The upside is that something finally happened to break the news cycle so we don't have to hear about the accidental dick picture that wasn't accidental that got tweeted from some guy I never heard of.
     
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  2. pigfarmer

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    Yeah we do, unfortunately.
     
  3. Thomas R. Morrison

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    That's right. Biden and Harris have devoted their entire political careers to colluding with the banking corporations, the defense corporations, the prison corporations, and the rest of the blue-chip Wall Street corporations - passing their agendas and wars and oppressing the working class of the US. We know exactly what we'll get under their rule - more complicit backside boning by the billionaire class...more or less exactly what we'll get with another 4 years of Trump. But they'll pretend to be nicer about it...which isn't actually an upside if you think about it.

    That's exactly why I felt an unexpected sense of relief when Hillary lost the 2016 election. She publicly stated that she wanted to implement a no-fly zone in Syria, which Gen. Dunford testified before the Senate meant destroying all Russian and Syrian planes in the country, which would mean war with Russia and Syria. And we know that Hillary et al. are behind the fake RussiaGate PsyOp, to smokescreen the appallingly corrupt content of their leaked DNC and Podesta emails. Hillary loved killing people - as we saw in her interview following Qaddafi's execution, and she was one breath away from starting WWIII.

    The top criteria in my voting choices is this simple metric: "which candidate will mostly likely yield the lowest body count?" In 2016 the answer to that question broke down as 1.) Jill Stein and/or the Libertarian guy, 2.) Donald Trump, and lastly Hillary Clinton. So I voted for Dr. Stein. I feel that our first moral obligation and our top priority as human beings is to minimize the mass murder casualties across the world directly attributable to our warmongering defense department. Trump and his revolting cabinet of mentally deficient freaks and corporatist sell-outs have been wreaking havoc on our nation domestically and internationally, but at least Trump hasn't escalated the US war on the world, and that matters because all human lives matter.

    Worthless treacherous maggots like Pelosi and Schumer and the Clintons and Obama are calling the shots in the Democratic Party. Their proven failed strategy, which they've said out loud - is to go after the "moderate Republican vote." They've turned the Democratic Party into the Republican Party 2.0, which has been their agenda ever since the Democratic Leadership Council and it's "third way" political strategy (the "third way" can be defined as "both major political parties fellating the corporations while crushing the interests of working class Americans").

    The Democratic leadership doesn't hate Trump - they love him; that's why they voted in favor of his increased military spending and his increased surveillance powers, and everything else that really mattered along the way. He's doing what they'd be doing, but since he's doing it instead of them, they can pretend to oppose it on the nightly news, which reinforces the manufactured illusion that they would do things differently. In reality they just say nice things while they're screwing us over, just as the Trump administration likes to pretend that they're acting in our best interests while they screw us over.

    It kind of amazes me that people still think that we have an adversarial political system, when the evidence so strongly argues that we only have one political body in this country - the Plutocrat Party, and both the reds and the blues work for them but they frame it in slightly different deceitful terms. The leaders of both parties are traitors to the American people and to the Constitution. It's bewildering to me that this fact isn't obvious to every American citizen, because both major parties have been consistently betraying the American people and the interests of peace for decades.
     
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  4. nivek

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    I voted the libertarian guy, pot smoker Gary Johnson, figured I couldn't go wrong there, an old hippie wouldn't go out starting wars...lol

    Libertarians are still on my plate of voting choices, its either Jo Jorgensen or Donald Trump for me...

    Yep I'm well aware however at this stage of the game this election year about all we can do is choose one, which is it going to be, dumb or dumber...

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  5. nivek

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    Its sad to say but, they've already started, they didn't even give the body a day to stiffen up...It might go months past January before they stop shuffling her around like a hockey puck...Then another round of:

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  6. nivek

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    The president should proceed with the nomination of a proven constitutionalist, doesn't matter his or her political stance as long as that person truly supports the Constitution...

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    There's a lot of people on social media threatening to burn cities and burn down Congress if President Trump and the Senate moves forward with choosing a Supreme Court candidate...Those people need to be locked up for such threats, the President has every right to make his selection now...We cannot wait until after the election, as Ted Cruz states, we may need the full body of the Supreme Court to sort out the election...

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  9. The shadow

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    Like this..
    Media Figures Threaten Riots If GOP Tries To Fill SCOTUS Seat: Burn It All Down
     
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  10. Thomas R. Morrison

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    First I think we need to arrest the Supreme Court justices who are responsible for the Citizens United and McCutcheon v FEC rulings - the two major rulings that opened the floodgates to the unmitigated corruption of our political system by defining "monetary campaign donations" as "free speech." That's an egregiously traitorous unconstitutional ruling which spits in the face of the Founding Fathers because it turns the egalitarian purpose of the Constitution on its head - obviously if "money = free speech" then only the handful of most wealthy people in this country will be heard...and represented politically.

    And that's exactly what has happened - the Supreme Court overturned our representational government and turned it into a corporate oligarchy with those two rulings among many others. They should be facing a military tribunal on charges of treason, imo.

    They won't nominate a Constitutionalist - they never do. They'll nominate another corporatist lackey to help solidify the power of the plutocrats over the country, because that's the agenda of both major parties.

    The only problem that I have with the Libertarians is that they think the economy is like some kind of natural ecosystem, and therefore the best thing we can do is to stop regulating it. In reality, the economy is a man-made invention, and the rules that govern it determine whether the economy works for the many, or the few. And we've seen what unregulated economies become - an oppressive, feudal hell, where the rich live like gods and the working class gets reduced to the status of farm animals.

    I'm opting out of this one - given the choice between Revolting Shitheel A and Revolting Shitheel B, I don't want to get my hands dirty voting in favor of someone who wouldn't even be welcome in my home.

    I've never seen any evidence that Dr. Ford was paid or coerced to speak out against Kavanaugh. I have had the displeasure of encountering people like Kavanaugh in my lifetime, however, and I find the charges against him credible - whiny and entitled pieces of human trash like Bret Kavanaugh are capable of anything. I'm also inclined to believe Biden's accuser, Tara Reade, for the same reason. The American people need to stop being so naive about the sociopaths who run our government - the most odious and unrepentant criminals in our society are at the top of the power structure, not at the bottom of it - cheering for any of them is like cheering for John Gotti or Al Capone.
     
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  11. pigfarmer

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    What is it about New York drive time radio that gets all over everybody? Sean Hannity had a show years ago and called the station WFAN 'the 50000 watt blowtorch of freedom'. Then a few years ago I hear this joker Levin yakking out of the same place. Made Hannity seem like a liberal, couldn't stand the guy. You listen to anything when you are trapped in a service truck long enough. Bernard McGuirk came out of there too although he was part of Imus in the Morning. They all wound up on Fox.

    A few years earlier Imus was the big deal in the morning commute, Soupy Sales did lunchtime and a newcomer nobody ever heard of did afternoon drivetime, Howard Stern.
     
  12. nivek

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    Back about 15 years ago I gave Mark Levin a listen a few times, at least back then he seemed to make sense from a constitutional point of view, I haven't listened to his show in the years since then, I'm not one to listen to talk shows much...He was more a curiosity for me back then, never heard of him prior until a neighbor mentioned his show to me in passing...

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  15. The shadow

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  16. AlienView

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    Considering the number of Trump associates convicted of felonies they could try the RICO Act:

    Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act - Wikipedia
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    The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.

    Of course, like last time, it would fail - As most Republicans {as the Dems see them} are part of the conspiracy and they still hold the majority in the Senate.
     
  17. AlienView

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    Of course:

    "It ain't over till its over" - Yogi Berra

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  18. pigfarmer

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    Because.

    Just because.

    Yes yes, what a fabulous idea another impeachment would be. Creative, brilliant, something nobody saw coming. Why not just stab him to death in the Capitol rotunda? As long as they all wear masks and elbow-bump afterwards that would be perfectly OK with a lot of people.

    DT's right. She IS a third rate politician. Someone who really had the chops would have found a much better way to deal with him over the past four years than this clown show. He's like a bear that showed up at a campground and all she can do is stand to one side and shriek and throw garbage at him along with the rest of her fellow campers. Meanwhile the bear will do whatever it wants. She apparently doesn't have the wherewithal to come up with any better idea despite having been in office since dinosaurs roamed the Earth and having been well compensated for the privilege. She got the title, the power, two Subzero refrigerators and a few years to puzzle this all out yet miserably failed in her baptism of fire. Or maybe baptism of Orange.

    I worked for a huge global company that dominated a market for decades. Then one day things changed and it started to dry up. When business was booming and the money was flowing management had it easy. When things got tough and budgets got slashed it was revealed that most of them were at best mediocre and many were flat out incompetent. A series of truly bad CEOs and other officers with 'visions' drove it into the dirt. I don't want a vison, in an emergency you want someone with a goddamned plan. There was internecine warfare and a daily blood letting and epic blamestorming but zero useful action to address the situation. This reminds me of all that quite a bit.
     
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    Biden, Trump, and Cognitive Decline: An Expert’s Primer on the Cognitive Tests That Have Become a 2020 Campaign Issue

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    Alzheimer’s and memory care expert Christy Turner explains cognitive screening: why it’s important, how it works, and how the current media frenzy around Joe Biden, Donald Trump, and cognitive decline affects those living with cognitive impairment.

    “Person-Man-Woman-Camera-TV.” By now, you’ve probably heard President Trump say that he “aced” a cognitive test. He went on to explain at length one component he encountered – recalling five objects – and added that, in his experience of cognitive screening, “they get very hard, the last five questions.”


    This wasn’t the first time President Trump has brought up cognitive testing. He’s been hammering presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden for months, raising questions about his cognitive health. Democrats have argued that it is Trump who is experiencing cognitive decline.........."

    Biden, Trump, and Cognitive Decline: An Expert’s Primer on the Cognitive Tests That Have Become a 2020 Campaign Issue - Being Patient


    I suppose this might explain why Trump admitted to having lied about how serious Covid19 was "to avoid creating a panic" .......That many thousands of lives that could have been saved are now dead, shows how serious bad judgement can be - That's the kind of 'cognitive decline' you really have to worry about.
     

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