the 2020 election

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by The shadow, Jan 2, 2020.

  1. AlienView

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    I understand you likeTrump - Ask August how avidly I and her blogged for Trump back in 2016.

    But I made a big, big mistake in underestimating the egotism and power hunger that drives him.

    The left vs. right political issue is not the main issue at this moment.

    In my opinion it is all about Trump - Trump only believes in Trump, maybe this made him good in business
    - but as President, he would have been OK if things stayed well - but they didn't.

    The problem at this moment {in my opinion} is Trump will not accept the realty of his loss and will use all
    and evcry means to stay in office - He has, though most can't see it yet, declard himself Dictator and Chief,
    and like all dictators will not accept legal loss of power.

    For the sake of argument assume I'm right - Are you willing to accept the end of America as a Republic
    into a dictatorship ruled by Donald Trump ???

    Michael Cohen his personal lawyer said he would take a bullet for Donald Trump - Instead he got a jail sentence.

    Are you willing to give up your rights under a democratic Republic to Boss Trump ???
     
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  2. nivek

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    Well not Per Se, I don't really like him at all, but I don't hate him because I don't hate anyone, however I like him better than Biden...

    I remember some of that lol, I was around AH still during that time...

    You are absolutely correct, in reality they are two sides of the same coin, bought and paid for by the rich and wealthy and corporate elite, they do not represent the people, neither the Democrats nor Republicans, they are all muppets serving their Masters who fill their pockets, no matter what they say they do not represent We The People, they haven't for a long time...

    Are you willing to have your rights stripped away and thereby losing even your choice to give them up if you so desired?...Things must change in our political system or we are doomed to fail as a Republic, the choices we have now for change, the options on the table currently, all of them are unacceptable and will not work...My path of life leads in a different direction than our society wishes to take us, I'm here living in this world but really try not to get too involved in its affairs but there are those who are completely consumed by our society, completely absorbed in it and those are the people likely to affect changes in the lives of the rest, and right now it's the elites who are in that position of power, neither political party can change that because they both are part and parcel in helping the elites stay in power...

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  3. August

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    Has Trump won Alaska ?
     
  4. AlienView

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    Yes.
    Final counts nationwide as of now:

    Presidential election results
    Joe Biden has been declared the winner, toppling Donald Trump after four years of upheaval in the White House.
    Last updated Nov. 12, 2020, 12:23 a.m. PST

    Live election results: The 2020 presidential race
     
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  5. Xuu

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  6. August

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  7. Thomas R. Morrison

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    It's taken a few days to overcome the blow to my morale presented by the antibody-resistant strain that has been detected in Denmark - is there any evidence that this new mink-related strain has escaped containment in Denmark?

    Back to the election topic, politically I find it preposterous that anyone would believe that a Trump or Biden presidency would benefit them or their loved ones personally: both of these revolting husks of humanity are solely committed to their own wealth and power, and use the corporate billionaire class to elevate their own status in the world at the expense of the human race. If Biden and Trump and the House and Senate were all simultaneously gunned down in the street, the world would be better off, and anyone who believes differently is an idiot, imo. The entire system has been engineered against us. In what way is that not painfully obvious at this point? People arguing whether Trump or Biden is better, might as well be arguing whether Genghis Khan or Stalin is better - both should be facing a firing squad imo - we execute serial killers who have a handful of corpses on their hands...both of these bastards have the blood of hundreds of thousands on their hands. A quick death is too good for either one of them, imo.
     
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  8. nivek

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    Denmark has not sealed its borders as far as I know, but utilizing local containment procedures which I have no confidence in, I doubt anyone has that answer yet, honestly I think its just a matter of time...It also seems there's an internal Danish struggle on whether or not they should kill all the minks...Its a no-brainer to me, the minks must die however many in the Danish government want to keep the minks alive which would risk even more deadly strains to emerge from those mink farms...

    Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

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  9. AD1184

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    The known human cases of the mutated Danish mink strain arose in late September, more than a month before the world was told about them. The Dutch are reported to have identified the exact same mutation in a mink farm of their own over the summer, where the mink were culled. Perhaps the most startling thing to come out of this is revealing how popular mink farming still is, even in supposedly enlightened Europe (all Scandinavian countries, plus Holland and Spain, and the US, farm mink for fur). The overwhelming consumer market for mink pelts is China, as they are socially unacceptable to wear in western European countries.
     
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  10. Standingstones

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    I was thinking about the ages of Biden and Trump. Biden is 77 years old and Trump is 74. Is anyone taking bets that these two will be around in 4 years time? Biden is showing his senility and Trump is on the McDonald’s diet. Does anyone ponder what Trump will look like at age 78 if he makes it that far? Kamala Harris should be prepping to be the next president whether anyone likes it or not.

    Just remember that Reagan was 73 when he was first elected. He was the oldest president at the end of his terms.

    If we thought the last 4 years were a roller coaster ride, prepare for more craziness to be sure.
     
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  11. Xuu

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    I agree.
    I don't think Trump is going to make it that much longer, with his age, his diet, and the stress of $800m in loans looming over his head.
    Biden is just plain old. I'm hoping he picked Kamala because she shares his vision on certain topics, as it'll be likely she'll be taking over at some point.
     
  12. AD1184

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    Trump (b. June 14, 1946) was 70 years old when first elected in November 2016. Reagan (b. February 6, 1911) was 69 years old when first elected in November 1980. Trump was the record holder in that regard, beaten this month by Joe Biden.

    Reagan won his second election aged 73, in 1984. The previous record holder for winning an election, he was beaten by Joe Biden this month.

    When the presidential race came down to Trump, Sanders and Biden a few months ago, Trump was the youngest candidate in the running.

    Joe Biden will be 82 at the next election, I don't know that two terms are realistic in his case. There are rumours that Trump might try for another presidency in four years' time at 78.
     
  13. The shadow

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    Have we really come to this?
     
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  15. The shadow

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    Both tweets show a idotcy beyond the pale. Joe referring to Biden as the 45th president. Karstien saying Alaska is a nation. If they move to Alaska they have a surprise as Alaska is a state.
     
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    Trump managed to achieve the triple crown of the US presidency. A feat never having previously been accomplished. upload_2020-11-12_17-36-24.png
     
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  18. Xuu

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    Lmao they're great.
    So the first one is a bot, on Trump's twitter every tweet has a few dozen of them replying that exact same thing. The country changes, but it's usually Alaska, Mexico, or a few that's said the UK.
    I'm not sure which side the bots are on. It could be for Trump - since the left said similar things about Canada.... Or it could be pro-Biden bots taking the piss.

    That second one is concerning though. That looks real. Good job he built that wall to keep them out, eh?
     
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  19. Rikki

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    Except for my urging all to vote I have remained out of politics. I have watched the discussion, I now ask for acceptance. Hillary Clinton and Al gore both stepped aside, it is time Trump did so. The WICCAN reade states: These Eight words the Rede fulfill:
    "And Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will" we now come to a crossroads. You are responsible for your own actions. Responsible for your own vote. Thomas Jefferson wrote “AS long as there is government there will be differences of opinion. Everyone takes his side in favor of the many or the few. Nothing new could be added by you or me to what has been said by others in this or any age. And may I add we have not or will not change a single heart. As for me I prefer looking back to the days when Massachusetts and Virginia acted in perfect in perfect harmony.”

    Let us move forward after all was are not Democrats or republicans BUT we are Americans.

    It’s morning in America!

    Blessed Be

    Rikki
     
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