the billy meier controversy

Kchoo

At Peace.
I am not interested in joining... I just wonder how a cult like that gets going in the first place.... I mean, his claims were so 'out there' to begin with... how does a cult become a cult anyway... and were you able to verify it was the real Horn, and not some doppelgänger?

Without a doubt, its a dead horse, unless those like yourself believe him, then its alive and well...We have spoken to Michael Horn first hand, I have as well, back in 2010 or 2011 on AU, 50 pages on the topic, its a cult no doubt and a cult needs people to believe...
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
I wonder how Billy would answer that ? With a straight face or not ?
Lol.
With a straight face, he would no doubt say,
"People either get it or they don't. It is not about cults or evil or good, it is my story... some know it is true... some will not consider it. That is up to them. I try to teach... people listen, or they throw out arguments that have nothing to do with my cause."
 

August

Metanoia
Thing is Billy is now 81 years old , he stated that his space friends are indeed coming back to collect his carcass and take it to Valhalla . I wonder if they have room on their ship for his copious cult loot and rolls of tin foil.

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August

Metanoia
Well I would say this Billy has done quite well for himself over the years and has virtually retired with no real cares in this world or others it seems. His legacy of Silly Saucers and Space Babes will live on long after he is gone. One can only hope he is happy in Valhalla after his earthly demise just as long as he doesn't try to convince the Plejarens that he really is Jesus.

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Kchoo

At Peace.
Well I would say this Billy has done quite well for himself over the years and has virtually retired with no real cares in this world or others it seems. His legacy of Silly Saucers and Space Babes will live on long after he is gone. One can only hope he is happy in Valhalla after his earthly demise just as long as he doesn't try to convince the Plejarens that he really is Jesus.

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Quiet well, indeed, but he never forced anything on anyone... he just told his stories, and they came... they were not brainwashed, they just found a place with him where they felt at home.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
We cannot afford to exclude any possibility when it comes to aliens... because
we simply do not know.

Billy met Semjase, this I believe.

How much is real or his imagination, I cannot say... but perhaps the truth isn't in the surface of his words, but in the lessons behind it....

Even if his encounters were all made up... we should read his story, and study it for ourselves... and grow from it... maybe only to become wiser.
 

August

Metanoia
Quiet well, indeed, but he never forced anything on anyone... he just told his stories, and they came... they were not brainwashed, they just found a place with him where they felt at home.


I would say the people were brain washed long before they found Billy. Everyone needs a Messiah and he was the one for them I mean he did say he was the reincarnation of Jesus didn't he ? Bet when the space friends of his come for him bet they don't take his followers , now that's a bummer. Wonder what they will all do when Billy has gone ? They surely can't turn to Billy's Gollum and faithfull sidekick Micheal Horn , surely not.

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nivek

As Above So Below
Billy claims he predicted Donald Trump would become President back in 1981...

 

Kchoo

At Peace.
I would say the people were brain washed long before they found Billy. Everyone needs a Messiah and he was the one for them I mean he did say he was the reincarnation of Jesus didn't he ? Bet when the space friends of his come for him they don't take his followers , now that's a bummer. Wonder what they will all do when Billy has gone ? They surely can't turn to Billy's Gollum and faithfull sidekick Micheal Horn , surely not.

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Recognizing something as truth or just B.S. is everyone's personal choice.
I tend to listen to everything, try to pay attention, and not judge, but to just see what They have to say... I consider it "play time" or just good "theater" as an expression of humanity.
 

August

Metanoia
Recognizing something as truth or just B.S. is everyone's personal choice.
I tend to listen to everything, try to pay attention, and not judge, but to just see what They have to say... I consider it "play time" or just good "theater" as an expression of humanity.

Yes that's a great way to look at things. The whole world is just a stage and we are but the players, Billy and Semjase included.
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nivek

As Above So Below
I tend to listen to everything, try to pay attention, and not judge, but to just see what They have to say...

You are not the only one, this billy meier character has been thoroughly analyzed and researched, it is all bullshit except for those believers of his tripe, sorry but he is a cult leader and all this prophetic nonsense he has created for himself is just that, self created nonsense...It is not a judgement, it is a fact without any doubt, except in the minds of those poor souls he stooped into becoming his followers...
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
You are not the only one, this billy meier character has been thoroughly analyzed and researched, it is all bullshit except for those believers of his tripe, sorry but he is a cult leader and all this prophetic nonsense he has created for himself is just that, self created nonsense...It is not a judgement, it is a fact without any doubt, except in the minds of those poor souls he stooped into becoming his followers...

But, can we entertain the possibility that despite his "tripe". His lessons were often acceptable, sans the saucers and saucer babes???
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Year's ago I got into it with horn. When asked direct questions he became hostile and defensive. The end was
"You are not worth my time." By him.
 

August

Metanoia
Year's ago I got into it with horn. When asked direct questions he became hostile and defensive. The end was
"You are not worth my time." By him.

Was that on AU ?? I remember somewhere Michael Horn coming on either AU or AH . He left after a bit he after being destroyed , maybe by you ?
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Year's ago I got into it with horn. When asked direct questions he became hostile and defensive. The end was
"You are not worth my time." By him.

But is it possible that Billy actually may have some valid knowledge of aliens that is buried beneath the controversy?
 

August

Metanoia
Another question what would Billy Meier's have been if not for the Alien tale ?

From Wiki.

Background

Born in the town of Bülach in the Zürcher Unterland, Meier joined the French Foreign Legion in his teens, but says he soon left and returned home. In 1965, he lost his left arm in a bus accident in Turkey. In 1966, he met and married a Greek woman, Kalliope Zafiriou, with whom he has three children. The nickname "Billy" came by way of an American friend who thought Meier's cowboy style of dress reminded her of "Billy the Kid." This anecdote was told by Meier in an interview with Bob Zanotti of Swiss Radio International in June, 1982.

Alleged extraterrestrial contacts
Meier claims his extraterrestrial encounters began in 1942, at the age of five, when he met an elderly Plejaren man named "Sfath".[6] After Sfath's death in 1953, Meier said, he began communicating with an extraterrestrial woman (though not a Plejaren) called "Asket". All contacts ceased in 1964, he said, then resumed on January 28, 1975, when he met "Semjase", the granddaughter of Sfath, and shortly thereafter another Plejaren man called "Ptaah". Other Plejarens, including a woman named "Nera", have since allegedly joined the dialog as well. Photographs of these two women were later proved to have been faked.

Meier founded a religious movement based on his alleged contacts with Semjase, called the "Freie Interessengemeinschaft für Grenz- und Geisteswissenschaften und Ufologiestudien" (Free Community of Interests for the Border and Spiritual Sciences and Ufological Studies) in the late 1970s and established his "Semjase Silver Star Center". The movement's headquarters is in Switzerland

Photographs, films
Meier's photographs and films are claimed by him to show alien spacecraft floating above the Swiss countryside.He calls the alleged spaceships "beamships" from Plejaren. According to Meier, the Plejaren gave him permission to photograph and film their beamships so that he could produce evidence of their extraterrestrial visitations. Some of Meier's photos are claimed by him to show prehistoric Earth scenes, extraterrestrials, and celestial objects from an alleged non-Earthly vantage point. Meier's claims are widely characterized as fraudulent by scientists, skeptics, and most ufologists, who say that his photographs and films are hoaxes.
In 1997, Meier's ex-wife told interviewers that his photos were of spaceship models he crafted with items like trash can lids, carpet tacks and other household objects, and that the stories he told of his adventures with the aliens were similarly fictitious. She also said that photos of purported extraterrestrial women "Asket" and "Nera" were really photos of Michelle DellaFave and Susan Lund, members of the singing and dancing troupe The Golddiggers; it was later confirmed that Meier's claims were faked and that DellaFave and Lund were in fact the women in the photographs.
 
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