the billy meier controversy

Kchoo

At Peace.
Another question what would Billy Meier's have been if not for the Alien tale ?

From Wiki.

Background

Born in the town of Bülach in the Zürcher Unterland, Meier joined the French Foreign Legion in his teens, but says he soon left and returned home. In 1965, he lost his left arm in a bus accident in Turkey. In 1966, he met and married a Greek woman, Kalliope Zafiriou, with whom he has three children. The nickname "Billy" came by way of an American friend who thought Meier's cowboy style of dress reminded her of "Billy the Kid." This anecdote was told by Meier in an interview with Bob Zanotti of Swiss Radio International in June, 1982.

Alleged extraterrestrial contacts
Meier claims his extraterrestrial encounters began in 1942, at the age of five, when he met an elderly Plejaren man named "Sfath".[6] After Sfath's death in 1953, Meier said, he began communicating with an extraterrestrial woman (though not a Plejaren) called "Asket". All contacts ceased in 1964, he said, then resumed on January 28, 1975, when he met "Semjase", the granddaughter of Sfath, and shortly thereafter another Plejaren man called "Ptaah". Other Plejarens, including a woman named "Nera", have since allegedly joined the dialog as well. Photographs of these two women were later proved to have been faked.

Meier founded a religious movement based on his alleged contacts with Semjase, called the "Freie Interessengemeinschaft für Grenz- und Geisteswissenschaften und Ufologiestudien" (Free Community of Interests for the Border and Spiritual Sciences and Ufological Studies) in the late 1970s and established his "Semjase Silver Star Center". The movement's headquarters is in Switzerland

Photographs, films
Meier's photographs and films are claimed by him to show alien spacecraft floating above the Swiss countryside.He calls the alleged spaceships "beamships" from Plejaren. According to Meier, the Plejaren gave him permission to photograph and film their beamships so that he could produce evidence of their extraterrestrial visitations. Some of Meier's photos are claimed by him to show prehistoric Earth scenes, extraterrestrials, and celestial objects from an alleged non-Earthly vantage point. Meier's claims are widely characterized as fraudulent by scientists, skeptics, and most ufologists, who say that his photographs and films are hoaxes.
In 1997, Meier's ex-wife told interviewers that his photos were of spaceship models he crafted with items like trash can lids, carpet tacks and other household objects, and that the stories he told of his adventures with the aliens were similarly fictitious. She also said that photos of purported extraterrestrial women "Asket" and "Nera" were really photos of Michelle DellaFave and Susan Lund, members of the singing and dancing troupe The Golddiggers; it was later confirmed that Meier's claims were faked and that DellaFave and Lund were in fact the women in the photographs.
Well.. it is interesting that Billy's lessons, or fables, or whatever, are lost when people discuss his legacy... it seems that humanity is more focused on what they can find wrong than what he was trying to teach from his "fantasies"
 

August

Metanoia
Well.. it is interesting that Billy's lessons, or fables, or whatever, are lost when people discuss his legacy... it seems that humanity is more focused on what they can find wrong than what he was trying to teach from his "fantasies"

Do you think Billy is delusional himself ? In other words he believes his own BS. You know its ok to tell lies as long as it doesn't hurt anybody sorta thing. I wonder if Billy would have been interested in 1975 if Semjase had been a guy and not a space babe?

 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Was that on AU ?? I remember somewhere Michael Horn coming on either AU or AH . He left after a bit he after being destroyed , maybe by you ?

It was not AH but I did destroy some one that I thought was horn on AH
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
But is it possible that Billy actually may have some valid knowledge of aliens that is buried beneath the controversy?
Any thing is possable like publishers clearing house knocking on my door.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Do you think Billy is delusional himself ? In other words he believes his own BS. You know its ok to tell lies as long as it doesn't hurt anybody sorta thing. I wonder if Billy would have been interested in 1975 if Semjase had been a guy and not a space babe?


Hard to say if he is.., but Watching him talk in his few interviews, he does seem to think that his stuff is real....
and who would write all the volumes of contact documents he has written if he didn't delude himself to believe in it himself.. I do not think he could do what he did if he did not believe in it...
 

August

Metanoia
Hard to say if he is.., but Watching him talk in his few interviews, he does seem to think that his stuff is real....
and who would write all the volumes of contact documents he has written if he didn't delude himself to believe in it himself.. I do not think he could do what he did if he did not believe in it...

He did a lot of videos here's one of them.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
They are sadly delusional people just like Billy. I mean for someone who puts himself out there as the reincarnation of Jesus will ultimately pull people into his cult.

Photobuch%2B-%2Bpg%2B81%2Bjust%2BCG.jpg
i have heard half of these people dont believe in him anymore
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I have read his first encounter was a real one but the rest is just Silly Billy stuff. His dreams and fantasies of amorous space babes and sleek silver saucers took him over . Then he embellished it with tales of him being Jesus.
Billy-Meier-image.jpg
i think nothing was true, it was a GOV psy-op
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Thing is Billy is now 81 years old , he stated that his space friends are indeed coming back to collect his carcass and take it to Valhalla . I wonder if they have room on their ship for his copious cult loot and rolls of tin foil.

Billy-Meier-case.jpg
i heard somehwere that his older son is gonna take over after he dies
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I would say the people were brain washed long before they found Billy. Everyone needs a Messiah and he was the one for them I mean he did say he was the reincarnation of Jesus didn't he ? Bet when the space friends of his come for him bet they don't take his followers , now that's a bummer. Wonder what they will all do when Billy has gone ? They surely can't turn to Billy's Gollum and faithfull sidekick Micheal Horn , surely not.

BillyMeier.jpg
MichaelHornRev6.30.2010.png
his son atlantis meier is gonna take over
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
those paintings people were posting were made by this guy: Jim Nichols UFO Art

I like this one, from that link...
upload_2018-6-17_19-25-47.jpeg

“So, more than the cultural shock of an extraterrestrial reality, the economic shock of disclosing free-energy quantum technologies would likely precipitate a global meltdown of the dominating petroleum-based geo-political infra-structure.”
 
Top