The vaccination thing.

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
So, I'm not Pro Vaccination, I'm not Con Vaccination. I got vaccinated based on the logic that the arguments people use to avoid the vaccine don't apply to me.

Argument 1,, I'm not putting an unidentified ununderstood drug in my body... That's moot with me, My entire teens and twenties were all about putting unidentified drugs in my system, So, I can't really use that excuse.

Argument 2. They are using microtechnology to Rfid chip people, Why does the shot have a serial number?
That is also moot with me because if the government wanted me, they could track me in a myriad of ways. By my GPS on my phone even.. So that's moot..

Ultimately, I took the shot because My last wife and my current wife both worked in the health industry, And they ultimately will pack it home, and then I will then contract it.

So the reason I'm posting this is, I received a weird card in the mail with money on it from the government because I got vaxxed, I didn't even know they were doing that, Is that like a stimulus? or what..

I admit it is kind of sketch that they are willing to pay people to get vaxxed though...
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Why does the shot have a serial number

For the same reason your carton of milk does. When and where did it come from in case you come down with hoof and mouth disease, the collywobbles or start speaking in tongues
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
For the same reason your carton of milk does. When and where did it come from in case you come down with hood and mouth disease, the collywobbles or start speaking in tongues

I had heard the serial number argument somewhere before, I could be thinking it's a conspiracy, But the way the guy told it to me, he figured that the shot had rfid chips in it because of the serial number.


I took it because I was afraid to catch Corona again, But, I do see the other side, It's not just a vaccine, Its one of the first mRNA vaccines that literally edit our DNA to change our cells.. So the irony is, The more I think about the vaccines, The scarier it gets...
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I took it because I was afraid to catch Corona again

If you had covid your body took care of that by itself without the shot. Like mine did. Like you, I had practical considerations to deal that outweigh my opinions on the topic. Still do so I just shut up and took the shots and will take a fourth if forced to. Not expecting to grow a tail or vote differently. Maybe that disappoints some.

If they want to track me go ahead via some mysterious nefarious method then have at it, I'm dull. Jesus, I've heard that exact argument from people afraid to get EZ Pass.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
If you had covid your body took care of that by itself without the shot. Like mine did. Like you, I had practical considerations to deal that outweigh my opinions on the topic. Still do so I just shut up and took the shots and will take a fourth if forced to. Not expecting to grow a tail or vote differently. Maybe that disappoints some.

If they want to track me go ahead via some mysterious nefarious method then have at it, I'm dull. Jesus, I've heard that exact argument from people afraid to get EZ Pass.
Yeah, I'm part of the camp that believes if the government wanted to know something about me, there is no way I could hide it from them lol. agreed...
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
This last time I had Covid, It was different than the other times,, I could barely breathe, I was so weak I couldn't stay awake, and these pimples healed into black knots on my lymphoid, I had to have those removed and sent into a lab..

People think they know what covid is, But I theorize that it weakens the immune system and opens one up to all kinds of diseases. :(
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I got the first two shots as a calculated risk. Then I got covid, and it was about like a nasty case of the flu. Another guy at my workplace got it and was intubated for two weeks. Did the vaccination keep my case from being worse than it was? Maybe. I'm not getting any more shots though as I hate needles, same reason I don't get the flu shot. This body ain't gonna last forever and I'm not going to spend precious hours of my life worrying about it.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I got the first two shots as a calculated risk. Then I got covid, and it was about like a nasty case of the flu. Another guy at my workplace got it and was intubated for two weeks. Did the vaccination keep my case from being worse than it was? Maybe. I'm not getting any more shots though as I hate needles, same reason I don't get the flu shot. This body ain't gonna last forever and I'm not going to spend precious hours of my life worrying about it.
I tend to agree with that, I'm no doctor, But I feel like if we have been exposed to it and have the antibodies for it, we should have some immunity at this point, So it's not like it's a completely foreign virus.

I did the same thing, Right after being fully vaxxed both shots, I got the worst case of covid I had ever had, "It was so bad"..
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine back in April last year, one shot non-mRNA, no more for me...I don't do flu shots either, screw all that shot nonsense...If we see another pandemic in our time (which I doubt) I will not get any vaccinations unless people are dropping like flies...

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Kchoo

At Peace.
I tend to agree with that, I'm no doctor, But I feel like if we have been exposed to it and have the antibodies for it, we should have some immunity at this point, So it's not like it's a completely foreign virus.

I did the same thing, Right after being fully vaxxed both shots, I got the worst case of covid I had ever had, "It was so bad"..
It would be nice to know if the shots helped saved you from a worse illness, or made the symptoms worse... But nobody knows for sure, I guess. ... ...
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Having had H1N1 15 years ago. The long term health effects scared me. H1N1 didn't seem THAT bad at first- Just 3 days in bed and I didn't want to to do anything except get up and go the the bathroom, and then it was over, or so I Thought... But it took me down from running half marathons to not being able to jog a 1/4 Mile. I could only do a mild walk for a couple years and would try to jog as I felt like it, but had no endurance. About 3 years later, I was able to finally complete a gentle 5K.

So, the first year flu shot in my left shoulder made that arm hurt so much, I couldn't reach for a can of soda on my desk. But every year after that, very mild soreness in a 4 inch area of the shoulder or no issues at all. The last few years it didn't hurt at all.

I consider myself lucky to be able to tolerate the shots, because the potential long term symptoms are what I am trying to avoid.
 

michael59

Celestial
So, I'm not Pro Vaccination, I'm not Con Vaccination. I got vaccinated based on the logic that the arguments people use to avoid the vaccine don't apply to me.

Argument 1,, I'm not putting an unidentified ununderstood drug in my body... That's moot with me, My entire teens and twenties were all about putting unidentified drugs in my system, So, I can't really use that excuse.

Argument 2. They are using microtechnology to Rfid chip people, Why does the shot have a serial number?
That is also moot with me because if the government wanted me, they could track me in a myriad of ways. By my GPS on my phone even.. So that's moot..
If they want to track me go ahead via some mysterious nefarious method then have at it, I'm dull. Jesus, I've heard that exact argument from people afraid to get EZ Pass.

I consider myself lucky to be able to tolerate the shots, because the potential long term symptoms are what I am trying to avoid.

No one has the right to force you to put something in your body.

It's not all about you.

What if some time in the near future, the target were your significant other, your mom, your child, your brother or sister. or even your best friend. If everyone conforms to this totalitarian regime now, how do we back pedal and say, "I didn't think it would be used against us in this way. If I had known, I never would have agreed to it."

Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile.

said about someone who has been given a small amount of power or freedom to do something, and then has tried to get a lot more

I guarantee you that no one thought when they changed the name of The War Measures Act to The Emergencies Act in 1970 that it would be used against peaceful protesters in Canada. To actually try to steal over 14 million in donations and freeze banks accounts of people around the world 2022.
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
No one has the right to force you to put something in your body.

It's not all about you.

What if some time in the near future, the target were your significant other, your mom, your child, your brother or sister. or even your best friend. If everyone conforms to this totalitarian regime now, how do we back pedal and say, "I didn't think it would be used against us in this way. If I had known, I never would have agreed to it."

Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile.



I guarantee you that no one thought when they changed the name of The War Measures Act to The Emergencies Act in 1970 that it would be used against peaceful protesters in Canada. To actually try to steal over 14 million in donations and freeze banks accounts of people around the world 2022.


I don't really "get" the opposition to the forced vaccinations. When I was a child, I "Had" To get my shots, or I couldn't go to school. There have been many times in a great many people's lives when most of us were forced to take medicines, I know the Vaccination is a Big deal, And To be honest, I believe it made my last covid bout absolutely worse.

But with that Said, I don't understand the vaccination opposition side of the argument. Let me explain, People want to exercise their freedoms when it comes to getting vaccinated, But freedom is large and by far an illusion,

When is the last time any of us got to walk into any place, tell everyone there exactly what we thought in a frank manner?
And anyone could hypothetically say, Just recently, But those people would be lying. people haven't had unchecked free speech for so long, they honestly believe fully that the entire world Accepts Gay culture just because it was forced to be accepted here. and yes it was a very forced acceptance, we were made to accept it... Think about it. people large and by far are followers. Look at the boom in Gay culture in just the last twenty years, 1 out of every seven people is a homosexual now. Do you think that many people were just busting to come out of the closet? No. It's because It's a movement, It makes people feel special like they are changing history to be part of the acceptance movement.

How many people have you known, who claimed to be gay and joined the groups, " BOUGHT THE MERCH because believe me, Target the store, Is all about selling that merch.. just to settle down in a binary straight relationship with someone they met at one of those movement gatherings?

I know about seven people who did just that. Weird huh?

People at mass are followers, Not leaders, If there was a special group with a sense of belonging and all a teen had to do was chop off his right hand. There would be a lot of left-handed people in the world right now. No, I'm Not Anti-Gay, I'm Anti Mind control, Truly homosexual people don't make it a political acceptance movement, They just love the person they are with, I like to have my own thoughts without being told what to think.

So I get that some people don't want the shot. But the fact is. I barely have the Freedom to voice my opinions on this subject. Because Freedom simply doesn't exist. Not that it ever did.

I can't even remember the last time, I got to truly unhinge and tell it like it is... Those days are long gone..
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I Sometimes wonder What World leaders like Kim Jong Un, Putin or Xi ping think when they see this on American Tv.

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They know Our nation is circling the drain. This kind of thing is only tolerated here in America, You don't see it in places like Russia or China, or The middle east, Honestly. I think they see stuff like this and smile and feel like they are stronger than we are as a nation.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I Sometimes wonder What World leaders like Kim Jong Un, Putin or Xi ping think when they see this on American Tv.

DragEric-scaled.jpg


They know Our nation is circling the drain. This kind of thing is only tolerated here in America, You don't see it in places like Russia or China, or The middle east, Honestly. I think they see stuff like this and smile and feel like they are stronger than we are as a nation.

There is nothing wrong with that image. Its simply freedom of choice for every individual. Russia, China, India & Iran are simply behind US in human development. These are backward countries that haven't fully left agricultural economy and agricultural mindset. Although some of Americans sometimes sound agricultural as well. There is a long way to go before whole mankind becomes civilised and peace loving.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
In Russia, China, and the middle east you only see on television what the ruling powers want you to see. It wasn't that long ago that Nat King Cole lost his television show because NBC yielded to racist demands. The person shown above looks absolutely ridiculous and I wouldn't watch their show. But, I make the choice not to watch, not someone else. If the ratings and ad revenue justify that person continuing to be on TV, then they have earned that spot.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
No one has the right to force you to put something in your body.

It's not all about you.

What if some time in the near future, the target were your significant other, your mom, your child, your brother or sister. or even your best friend. If everyone conforms to this totalitarian regime now, how do we back pedal and say, "I didn't think it would be used against us in this way. If I had known, I never would have agreed to it."

Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile.



I guarantee you that no one thought when they changed the name of The War Measures Act to The Emergencies Act in 1970 that it would be used against peaceful protesters in Canada. To actually try to steal over 14 million in donations and freeze banks accounts of people around the world 2022.

I do not see how a stupid shot is the cause of so much fear,distrust, and anger. People gladly consume energy drinks daily but they probably don't even know how to read the ingredients...

I was happy to get my shots voluntarily, because I trust the science.

I do not think vaccinations should be forced on anyone, rather, I think people should use their own sensibility, and the majority probably would be glad to use a shot to reduce risk of deeper illness if it wasn't pushed at them so hard.

Big government in the U.S. through taxation has cause 100s of thousands of homeless people to remain unemployable simply because employers are required to have a person's home address in a system for taxation purposes. So yeah,big government is full of problems.

And, what is the fight exactly,? If we can come to a sensible definition of proper process then perhaps we can speak with a common voice that will make it reality. But if we remain divided and wear a certain color or identify with only one party, but not another, and remain divided as to our opinions, then we deserve to be overpowered by a Big Government simply because we as a group don't know what we want.
 

michael59

Celestial
I do not see how a stupid shot is the cause of so much fear,distrust, and anger. People gladly consume energy drinks daily but they probably don't even know how to read the ingredients...

I was happy to get my shots voluntarily, because I trust the science.

I do not think vaccinations should be forced on anyone, rather, I think people should use their own sensibility, and the majority probably would be glad to use a shot to reduce risk of deeper illness if it wasn't pushed at them so hard.

Big government in the U.S. through taxation has cause 100s of thousands of homeless people to remain unemployable simply because employers are required to have a person's home address in a system for taxation purposes. So yeah,big government is full of problems.

And, what is the fight exactly,? If we can come to a sensible definition of proper process then perhaps we can speak with a common voice that will make it reality. But if we remain divided and wear a certain color or identify with only one party, but not another, and remain divided as to our opinions, then we deserve to be overpowered by a Big Government simply because we as a group don't know what we want.

Nothing changed, Kchoo. You will never be able to say that taking those shots kept you from becoming very ill or from dying because nothing changed. You still got sick, you still passed it on and you still felt the need to take another dose.

For the first time ever, a medicine's ineffectiveness is being blamed on those who haven't taken it.

I got hit with the first wave and was very sick. At that time they didn't even know what was happening and told people to stay home, don't go to the doctor don't go to the hospital unless you are in dire need. I'm Canadian. This is the land of colds and flu's and we know there is no miracle cure. Just stay home get plenty of rest and stay hydrated. That's what I did and here I am 2 years later.
 
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michael59

Celestial
Almost all restrictions have been lifted in Alberta Canada. As of today March 8, 2022, I no longer have to worry about being forced to do something that every fiber of my being was resisting. The choice is still mine. That's all I wanted for me and for everyone else.
 
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