The Wall

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  1. Kchoo

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  2. Castle-Yankee54

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    Makes it even more laughable.
     
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  3. Kchoo

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    Part of the Rio Grand has 1000 foot clifs on one side.... Low sandy bottom on the other...
    Where dies the fence go on that? And several issues....
     
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    Just shows why hes gone bankrupt before.
     
  5. Caeldeth

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    The wall will never happen. It's a pipe dream.
     
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  6. Castle-Yankee54

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    So very true....if it ever did construction wouldn't begin for 10 years as the very least.
     
  7. nivek

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    The wall that's needed is more security and border patrols, manpower...
     
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    I think more effective border control is needed....the wall is a waste.
     
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  10. Castle-Yankee54

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    It would be good if if they stopped their power trips and did their jobs.......a wall would just be an environmental disaster. It won't stop people or drugs.
     
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    That's right.

    We should deploy Reapers or Predators with thermal and image sensing, armed with twin minigun pods and Hellfire missiles and eliminate the problem.

    They will stop people and drugs. Quite effectively too.
     
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    Look at the the great Chinese wall. It still stands, and must have paid for itself many times by now.

    IF Trump can build with chinese quality you will be home safe on this
     
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  13. Castle-Yankee54

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    trump won't build it so well.....and for a project like that not a brick would be laid while he is in office.

    Yes the Great Wall is a miracle of engineering.....however it cost hundreds of thousands of lives if not millions and only had a functional use of 40 or 50 years. Besides the fact that such static defenses can easily be breached it would end up being an environmental nightmare. But then those two things wouldn't bother trump and his trumpeters.

    I'm just hoping his military advisors don't think its a good idea for defense......if they do the country is screwed.
     
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  14. nivek

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    I agree, I would rather see more security patrols and more border agents than a wall, even more surveillance cameras would help as long as we have the manpower to support them...
     
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  15. CasualBystander

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    1. There are a lot of really dumb arguments against the wall. The wall only has to be about 10% effective to pay for itself. There is no reason to not build the wall.

    2. The people against the wall tend to support illegal immigration. There is no defensible reason to allow illegal immigration.

    3. I feel strongly enough about this I would deploy armed autonomous drones as an alternative.
     
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  16. Castle-Yankee54

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    A wall of surveillance systems would be the best and more money to patrol it.....this would not be a wasteful environmental disaster.
     
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    This isn't an environmental disaster like global warming funding. And by the way - when Trump zeros out the $22 billion per year the US flashes down the toilet funding the warmunist religion Trump will have paid for the wall and then some in less than one year. Let alone terminating the waste from subsidizing renewable energy, and terminating subsidies to renewable energy companies like Solyndra.

    Putting a wall in the middle of the frickin Southwest desert is not an environment disaster no matter how many liars say it is. From El Paso to Box Canyon Amistad in Texas looks pretty doable. Where the Rio Grande is a significant influence will take some clever engineering (or creative thinking).

    Anyone who has actually flow over the southwest knows that it is pretty brown.

    The Rio Grande is a bit of a challenge. We could just put land mines on the American side of the river. Or stock the Rio Grand with crocodiles and Piranha. I'm for anything that keeps illegals off US soil and I frankly don't care how it is done.

    The wall through California is really where the attention should go. Putting a wall down the California border is not an environment disaster no matter how many liars say it is. I've actually crossed that border - I welcome factual opposing views, but don't expect any.

    With environmental sensors embedded in the wall the border patrol can be notified of crossings.

    In the event the wall is breached, given that is by definition an invasion, Apaches and A10s can be dispatched to deal with the miscreants.
     
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  18. Castle-Yankee54

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    Thanks....that's good to know.....:rofl:....it answers my questions.
     
  19. CasualBystander

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    In Texas, any new wall would have to be built some distance from the border, because the line itself runs down the middle of the Rio Grande.

    An interesting link.

    You wouldn't happen to have a link to an objective analysis would you?

    You can google earth the northern portion of the Texas border. It runs through an almost dry miniature version of the grand canyon. The border in the north is not a moving target. A wall built into the rock face would be almost impossible to climb over. And would eliminate about 95% or better of the population from attempting it even if they had the necessary tools.

    All told, a network analysis shows, about 4,900 parcels of property sit within 500 feet of the border in Texas.
    Google earth tells you much of land is barren rock or devoid of vegetation.

    About all the wall would do is interfere with the owners smuggling things into or out of Mexico, since the land does not appear to have a higher purpose.
     
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  20. Kchoo

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    so, a wall meant to keep people out, can also keep people in...
     

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