Unofficial Military (and other cool) Stuff Thread

pigfarmer

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I just never knew any details about Shinano's death.

Abe made another doozy of a tactical mistake at Guadalcanal and got his own personal ass shot up for his trouble. I thought they cashiered him for it but apparently he was available to lose another major surface combatant. The major one at that point.

I always thought the Japanese penchant for over the top anti-Godzilla machines like Moguera and Mechagodzilla were a reflection of their taste for over the top anti-everybody machines seen in the Yamato class.
 

nivek

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SR-72 Darkstar Has One ‘Weapon’ China Can’t Seem to Match

Summary and Key Point and That 1 Weapon: The SR-72 “Son of Blackbird,” successor to the iconic SR-71, reportedly achieves astonishing speeds up to Mach 6 using advanced hypersonic technologies, potentially evading modern air defenses.

-Its revolutionary turbine-based combined cycle (TBCC) engine merges jet propulsion and scramjet technologies, enabling unprecedented agility across speeds.

-Advanced heat management using carbon-carbon composites surpasses the earlier titanium construction of the SR-71, addressing critical challenges of hypersonic flight.

-Enhanced materials and airflow control reduce turbulence, ensuring stable flight and targeting precision.

-While specific capabilities remain classified, the SR-72 represents a quantum leap forward, dramatically redefining military surveillance and strategic reconnaissance for the future.


As far as we know right now, according to most reporting in the public domain, the SR-72 “Son of Blackbird” or “Darkstar” is faster and more capable than its “hypersonic” SR-71 predecessor as it can reportedly reach speeds up to Mach 6, nearly double the Mach 3.3 speed of the initial “Blackbird.” According to some estimations, the high-speed SR-72 plane can outrun some missiles and weapons systems due mainly to its turbine-based combined cycle (TBCC) engine.

As discussed in a 2023 essay in Warrior, this engine blends traditional jet propulsion for take-off with a scramjet engine for hypersonic travel designed to manage performance across various speeds and ranges. The merits of speed in combat are pretty tricky to capture and seemingly not to be underestimated, as a surveillance aircraft traveling at Mach 6 would have more success eluding air defense systems. A platform at these speeds would not only be difficult to “target” with “engagement radar” for a precision strike. Still, it would fly from one radar aperture or field of view to another so quickly that air defenses would be challenged to establish a continuous “track.”

As part of these higher-threat speeds, the SR-72 could mitigate or neutralize advanced air-defense technologies able to “network” to one another and hand off or pass along target specifics as the aircraft transited from one field or regard to another.Advanced air defenses, such as the Russian S-400 and S-500, are increasingly capable of newer digital networking designed to enable a node in one location to pass information to another across otherwise disaggregated geographical boundaries.

Yet another area of potential advances with hypersonic flight pertains to air “boundary layer” and thermal management. The Army Research Laboratory, and likely the other US services as well, are experimenting with novel combinations of composites and particles to identify new materials better able to withstand the “heat” of hypersonic flight.

Scientists and weapons developers say “thermal management” is the most significant and most difficult challenge to “sustaining” hypersonic flight. It is not always possible for a projectile or platform to maintain its structure and travel through the unprecedented “heat” generated by hypersonic flight.

“The SR-72 incorporates advanced materials to withstand extreme thermal stresses, likely involving carbon-carbon composites, which are a step beyond the SR-71’s titanium skin designed for heat dissipation at high speeds. Furthermore, the SR-72’s design emphasizes not just speed but also stealth and operational versatility, integrating advanced avionics and possibly even AI-assisted systems for autonomous operations, which were not features of earlier hypersonic aircraft,” a 2023 essay from Warrior states.

Many of the specifics of the technologies built into the SR-72 are not likely to be available. Yet, the Air Force Research Lab (AFRL) explains they are working on “boundary layer phenomenology” related to hypersonic flight. Senior ARFL weapons developers explain that the intent with airflow surrounding a hypersonic platform or projectile is to enable a smooth or “laminar” airflow. This enables a more stable flight path or trajectory for the hypersonic object, meaning it is not thrown off course by “turbulent” airflow passing over during flight.

AFRL scientists told this author that turbulent airflow can cause molecules surrounding the vehicle to shift position in flight, generating heat and disrupting flight path and targeting.


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pigfarmer

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Why Was a 1940s Car Discovered in the Wreck of an American Naval Ship That Sank During World War II?

The mysterious automobile was found in a hangar on the USS “Yorktown,” which has been resting on the bottom of the Pacific Ocean since 1942​

Sarah Kuta

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Underwater view of old car
Using a remotely operated underwater vehicle, researchers discovered an automobile in one of the USS Yorktown's hangars. The car might have been used by one of the aircraft carrier's high-ranking officers. NOAA Ocean Exploration, 2025 Beyond the Blue
Researchers are scratching their heads after discovering an unexpected piece of cargo—a “surprise automobile”—among the wreckage of an American ship that sank during World War II.

On April 19, scientists with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) were using a remotely operated underwater vehicle to explore the USS Yorktown when they spotted the faint outline of a car in the ship’s aft hangar deck.
They returned the next day for a closer look. Based on the flared fenders, split windshield, rag top, chrome details and spare tire, researchers have tentatively identified the vehicle as a black 1940-1941 Ford Super Deluxe “Woody.” On its front plate, according to a statement, they could make out the words “SHIP SERVICE ___ NAVY.”
Underwater view of car's front plate
NOAA researchers could make out "SHIP SERVICE ___ NAVY” written on part of the car's front plate. NOAA Ocean Exploration, 2025 Beyond the Blue
The team found the car during an ongoing expedition called Beyond the Blue: Illuminating the Pacific. Sailing aboard the NOAA ship Okeanos Explorer, researchers are mapping, gathering data and otherwise exploring to expand their knowledge of the vast Pacific Ocean.

The Yorktown, an 809-foot-long United States Navy aircraft carrier, has been resting on the ocean floor since June 1942, when Japanese forces torpedoed the vessel during the Battle of Midway.
Before Captain Elliott Buckmastergave the order to abandon ship, crew members jettisoned heavy cargo—including guns and aircraft—in an effort to keep it afloat, a NOAA spokesperson tells McClatchy News’ Mark Price. For some unknown reason, however, they decided to leave the vehicle



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For now, researchers can only guess as to why the ship’s salvage crew kept the car in place. It may have been used by one of the Yorktown’s high-ranking officers, such as Rear Admiral Frank Fletcher or Buckmaster, while they were conducting business in foreign ports, according to the NOAA statement. Or it might have been placed on the ship for repairs after sustaining damage in the Battle of the Coral Sea in May 1942, per McClatchy News.
This is not the first time researchers have explored the wreck of the Yorktown, which is located roughly three miles deep about 1,000 miles northwest of Honolulu in the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands. It was discovered in 1998 by Robert Ballard, the National Geographic Society and the U.S. Navy. Since then, researchers have conducted “several investigations” of the wreck, according to NOAA.

But the vessel was still holding on to a few secrets. In addition to the surprise car, researchers located a hand-painted mural inside one of the vessel’s elevator shafts. Scientists captured the first-ever underwater photos of the 42-by-12-foot artwork. Called A Chart of the Cruises of the USS Yorktown, the mural consists of a world map showing all the places the Yorktown had traveled.
Mural of the world
This 42-by-12-foot artwork, A Chart of the Cruises of the USS Yorktown, is a hand-painted mural that had only been seen in historic photographs of the vessel before it sank. NOAA Ocean Exploration, 2025 Beyond the Blue
Until now, the artwork had only been partially visible in historic photographs taken before the Yorktown sank.
“Its motifs showcase the pride that Yorktown’s sailors had for their ship, the global scale of Yorktown’s activities and the strategic role that the ship played in defending the United States,” according to NOAA.

The team also located at least three planes aboard the vessel, including a Douglas SBD Dauntless that still had a bomb attached to it. During World War II, the Navy used the aircraft as dive bombers and scout planes. At the Battle of Midway, Douglas SBD Dauntless planes helped sink four Japanese aircraft carriers, according to the National WWII Museum.
Also while exploring the wreckage, researchers snapped a photo of a colorful red jellyfish that they suspect might be a new species.
barely illuminated shipwreck
The USS Yorktownis resting on the bottom of the Pacific Ocean at a depth of roughly three miles. NOAA Ocean Exploration, 2025 Beyond the Blue

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Dejan Corovic

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The real James Bond, agent 007, was Serbian!
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At least 3 independant books were written by English authors about real British MI5 spy Dusan Popov, on whom Ian Flaming explicitely modelled agent 007, aka James Bond, Fleming and Popov knew each other and worked together on MI5 projects. Popov worked from Lisbon and US as a double agent for Adverb and MI5. While he was setting up spy networks for Adverb in US, he contacted FBI Hoover and provided FBI with intel about impeding Japanese attack on Perl Harbour but Popov was ignored. Very simiar how Stalin ignored


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Dejan Corovic

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Full review of that polymer ammo rifle that almost won competition for new US assault rifle.

Apparently it delivers same energy as 7.62mm but with only .227 caliber. But what's amazing only 1/2 of the recoil. You can see in the video muzzle doesn't move even on full auto muzzle stays so solid its unreal:


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pigfarmer

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B-2 Bombed A Smiley Face Of Craters Into The Ground Because It Ran Out Of Targets

The B-2 can drop so many JDAMs on a single pass that there weren't enough targets to put out on a mock airfield, so the crew left a happy message in the runway.
Joseph Trevithick Aug 8, 2025 4:00 PM EDT

A B-2 bomber left a smiley face made out of bomb craters on the ‘runway’ of a mock airfield during a test some two decades ago. This happened after personnel at the sprawling Utah Test and Training Range (UTTR) had run out of shipping containers to turn into targets that a B-2 would hit during a single attack run. It’s a reminder of just how much precision destruction America’s upgraded stealth bombers can dole out in one pass.


Air Force Maj. Gen. Jason Armagost, who was part of the crew that flew the test mission, mentioned the smiley face during an online talk that the Air & Space Forces Association’s Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies hosted yesterday. Armagost, who is now commander of the Eighth Air Force, to which the Air Force’s current B-2s, B-1s, and B-52s are all assigned, used the anecdote to highlight the unique capabilities offered by heavy bombers.

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A stock picture of a B-2 bomber refueling in mid-air. USAF
“I happened to fly an operational test mission where we tested the carriage of 80 500-pound JDAM [Joint Direct Attack Munition precision guided bombs] and released them all in a span of a little over 20 seconds on an airfield in the UTTR,” Armagost said. “I mean, that’s an amazing sight to behold, such that we even ran out of CONEX boxes to strike, and so [we] drew a smiley face across the runway with JDAMs.”


Armagost said that this flight occurred in 2004, but this appears to be in error. The rest of his description aligns completely with a widely publicized test that occurred on Sept. 10, 2003. The specifics of the event are detailed in the video below, which makes no mention of drawing the smiley face.


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The faux airfield constructed on the UTTR for the September 2003 test was just under a mile long. In addition to two mock runways, one graded and one just a desert strip, it included nine distinct simulated target areas. These were designed to represent an aircraft revetment, a helicopter landing pad, a control tower, a vehicle park, a generic structure, a hangar, an SA-6 surface-to-air missile system site, a fuel storage site, and a Scud ballistic missile launch site. The mock revetment, control tower, generic structure, and hangar were all made using arrays of shipping containers.

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From left to right, the aircraft revetment, control tower, hangar, and generic structure targets constructed from shipping containers for the September 2003 test. Public domain captures
The B-2 bomber, flying at an altitude of some 40,000 feet, released all 80 JDAMs in a single pass. The GPS-assisted guidance packages in the tail fin sections in each of the bombs were programmed to hit a separate aim point, and all of the impacts occurred within a span of approximately 22 seconds.


The JDAM was still a relatively new weapon at the time, and the B-2 used in the test had to be specially modified with new “smart” bomb racks to be able to drop the bombs. There were also safety concerns about dropping that many bombs from a B-2 in such rapid succession, and 11 other test flights were conducted to gather key data before the final 80-bomb pass on the mock airfield.

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A B-2 drops inert JDAMs in one of the test flights leading up to the Sept. 10, 2003, event. USAF
Today, JDAMs, which consist of one of a number of low-drag bomb bodies combined with a new tail section that contains the guidance system, as well as clamp-on aerodynamic strakes, are among the most widely used air-to-ground munitions in the U.S. military. In addition to 500-pound-class types, there are also 1,000 and 2,000-pound-class versions.

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A graphic showing, from left to right, a pair of 2,000-pound class JDAMs, a 1,000-pound-class version, and a 500-pound-class-type. The guidance and control tail section is also shown separately at the top. USAF
The Air Force had certainly demonstrated the B-2’s ability to drop large numbers of bombs, in general, before the September 2003 test. The service has continued to show off the B-2’s capabilities in this regard in training and testing, as well as real-world operations, since 2003, as well.

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A B-2 bomber drops 47 unguided 500-pound class bombs over the Point Mugu Sea Range in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of southern California in 1994. USAF
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As mentioned, during yesterday’s talk, Armagost used the 80 JDAM test to highlight the immense and unique capabilities that heavy bombers offer. The B-2, with its maximum payload capacity of around 60,000 pounds, has especially cavernous bomb bays. It is notably the only aircraft currently certified to operationally employ the 30,000-pound GBU-57/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bunker buster bomb, the heaviest conventional munition in U.S. service today. It can carry two MOPs in its internal weapons bays. The MOP has now become a household name after the bombs were dropped on real targets for the first time during the Operation Midnight Hammer strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities in June.

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A B-2 drops a GBU-57/B MOP during a test. USAF
Armagost’s remarks yesterday about the 80 JDAM test came in response to a question about what he would want fellow airmen to better understand about the differences between what fighters and bombers bring to the fight.


“Bombers are an order of magnitude difference [from fighters] in what you can do with them,” he also said. “Now, they nest incredibly well together, right? We see that with our partners and allies, who … fly fighters as their power projection capability. But when we nest them together with bombers, it is a completely different animal.”


The United States is currently alone in the West as an operator of bombers. It is a small club overall, with Russia and China being the only other countries that do so anywhere else globally.


“I’ll reflect back to that, that B-2 example of 80 500-pound JDAMs in a matter of a little over 20 seconds, and that was one aircraft,” Armagost said later on in yesterday’s talk. “It’s like the example we used to give of World War II attacks requiring massive formations with high numbers of people at risk to get a single target. And then, as we transition through the precision capability, kind of revolution, and then evolution, you get down to single aircraft with single targets. And then the B-2 with multiple targets per aircraft. And, so, most simply, the cost, the strike efficiency, and the cost per kill comes down to: it matters how big your weapons bay is.”

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Now it also “matters what access you have bought with the platform or with the weapons, in the case of hypersonics from range, or a penetrating force bringing large numbers inside of denied airspace,” the Eighth Air Force commander added.


The ability of a single B-2 to destroy, or at least inflict severe damage, on a large facility like an airfield with pinpoint accuracy on a single pass, even when flying miles from the target, remains a significant capability, although one that is waning with the advent of ever more advanced integrated air defense systems. Regardless, this unprecedented ability is something TWZ has highlighted in the past when talking about the B-2.


In line with all of this, Armagost spent much of his time yesterday talking about the critical value he sees coming not just from the size of the planned fleet for forthcoming B-21 Raider bombers, as you can read more about here. The Air Force plans to buy at least 100 B-21s, if not many more. The service currently has just 19 B-2 bombers out of a total of 21 that were ever produced, which imposes significant limits on their operational capacity despite the highly valuable ‘silver bullet’ capabilities they offer, as was demonstrated during the Midnight Hammer strikes.


The B-21 is smaller than the B-2, and won’t be able to carry as much gross tonnage of ordnance per sortie. Still, the Raider could have an even more impressive ‘single pass’ strike capability, all while offering enhanced survivability. While 80 JDAMs may not be on the weapons menu, with new smaller standoff munition options like the GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) or its successor, the GBU-53/B StormBreaker, the B-21 could exceed the quantity of the B-2’s bomb load. And it could release those weapons at standoff ranges, eclipsing the B-2’s impressive direct attack capabilities. The B-2 is not currently capable of employing the SDB or Stormbreaker. The ability to launch even small but just as accurate drones that can network together to swarm targets with deadly precision could take this capability even another step forward.

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The first pre-production B-21 Raider in flight. USAF
Regardless of what the future holds, the smiley face anecdote that Armagost shared underscores why the Air Force’s B-2s will continue to be prized for their unique ability to bring heavy ordnance loads deep into defended areas and deal massive, highly-efficient destruction in minimal time.
 

Dejan Corovic

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Few weeks ago I was watching a video about Italian archeologists digging up graves of Medici family. Medicis of Florence were bankers and merchants and they finance pope and had huge influence. There was a flood and archeologies were tasked with moving their bodies to safe place.

What was impressive was when they looked at a body of one of male leaders of Medici family they found that his bones had a large pits at muscle connection points. These pits are typical for people who did lots of hard labour lifting heavy loads.

Then yesterday I stumbled on this video explaining how medieval knights were exercising for warfighting and Midici's bone pits made total sense. Check it out:


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Dejan Corovic

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I just remembered that I have a collection of bits and pieces about D-Day.

- through lots of effort allies bluffed Germans into believing that main trust will be at Pa De Calle, and that Normandy is just a diversionary attack.

- I watched a video with a testimony of German machine gunner. He said that assault started at 7:30am, and he run out of ammunition around 10:00 am.

- Hitler was heavily depressed because war was already going bad, so he was taking all the drugs that he can find. Because he was drugged up, he only wake at 11:00 am on that day and nobody dared wake him up. As well Romel, who was in charge of coastline defences, was on holiday celebrating his wife's birthday.

- Hitler's wake up time is critical for success of D-Day because there was a large contingent of Tiger tanks waiting for allies at a Pa De Calle and only Hitler himself issue order weather these Tigers can move or not. So these tanks got order to move when it was already too late, and machine gunners run out of ammo and allies stormed bluffs.


Now, methinks, if Germany was democracy Hitler would be much more aware that if he screwed up he would get fired, so he would had been waking up much earlier.
 
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pigfarmer

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I just remembered that I have a collection of bits and pieces about D-Day.

- through lots of effort allies bluffed Germans into believing that main trust will be at Pa De Calle, and that Normandy is just a diversionary attack.

- I watched a video with a testimony of German machine gunner. He said that assault started at 7:30am, and he run out of ammunition around 10:00 am.

- Hitler was heavily depressed because war was already going bad, so he was taking all the drugs that he can find. Because he was drugged up, he only wake at 11:00 am on that day and nobody dared wake him up. As well Romel, who was in charge of coastline defences, was on holiday celebrating his wife's birthday.

- Hitler's wake up time is critical for success of D-Day because there was a large contingent of Tiger tanks waiting for allies at a Pa De Calle and only Hitler himself issue order weather these Tigers can move or not. So these tanks got order to move when it was already too late, and machine gunners run out of ammo and allies stormed bluffs.


Now, methinks, if Germany was democracy Hitler would be much more aware that if he screwed up he would get fired, so he would had been waking up much earlier.
I love tidbits like that !

First US Army Group was created for the deception with George Patton at it's head as an attention getter. It consisted of those realistic inflatable tanks, artillery pieces etc and certainly worked out well enough. It's been a while since I researched any of this but it included the 604th Army Engineer Camouflage Battalion or some elements of it that would become the 604th. One of them was a cabinet maker named Charlie who was put to work building barracks etc when he finally made it to France in the Fall of 1944. One day he went out into the field with some friends and discovered war materiel; he brought back a 1942 Byf K98 Mauser, a Heer flare pistol and a weird inert 40mm Italian practice mortar round. The rifles were stacked and the bolts thrown in a pile and he just grabbed one.

He did a real 'duffel cut' on it under the front barrel band and as a finish carpenter did a proper job of doweling it. Intact otherwise but for the mismatched bolt. Unfortunately when he got home he crudely slobbered it up with some nasty varnish of some sort. Eventually it got thrown in a closet and then an attic to bake for years in high heat and totally dry out. I bought all those things from his son along with the US Army capture papers. Wound up having to strip the finish, retore the wood, repair the duffel cut and bed the action. I put on a natural boiled linseed oil finish. Sometimes I use tung oil but that smell makes me want to eat peanuts and drink beer every time I open my safe. The bore's a bit dark but it's a shooter. Oh, Charlie also brought home a French bride and if he hadn't I wouldn't have this strory to tell .......

Don't forget Hitler's most effective general was not on scene despite having designed the fortifications. I think they called the submerged traps Rommel's Asparagus or something equally weird. The weather was poor and he thought the likelihood of attack low so he went home to give his wife a pair of shoes for her birthday, June 6. That's why I text a buddy of mine every June 6 and wish him a 'Happy Rommel's Birthday'

Had Hitler not been so stoned and had Rommel been available I think 21st Panzer was in reserve and has that mailed fist of the Afrika Corps actually been released on time thing's would've turned out very differently.
 

Dejan Corovic

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I forgot one more thing. In another video they had shown how Americans were stuck on a beach under heavy fire by these machine guns. Than some US general, whose name I forgot, got soldiers moral up and they went up the bluff.

But purely on analytical side, there is a dark underlying in that phot0, if landings were anything like shown in "Saving Private Ryan" than these dark patches in the water, just next to the shoreline, were actually from blood, and maybe if photo was in color it would show as red. One can imagine utter terror to which these poor souls were exposed, bunching together in one spot when they should had spread out. God bless them.
 
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pigfarmer

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I forgot one more thing. In another video they had shown how Americans were stuck on a beach under heavy fire by these machine guns. Than some US general, whose name I forgot, got soldiers moral up and they went up the bluff.

But purely on analytical side, there is a dark underlying in that phot0, if landings were anything like shown in "Saving Private Ryan" than these dark patches in the water, just next to the shoreline, were actually from blood, and maybe if photo was in color it would show as red. One can imagine utter terror to which these poor souls were exposed, bunching together in one spot when they should had spread out. God bless them.
That pic was from Utah Beach, the other American landing. Gold and Sword were British, Juno Canadian.

Omaha was the Saving Private Ryan scenario and I believe the most heavily contested. What you described sounds like where they had to push Bangalore torpedoes forward under heavy fire.

Tarawa takes the cake and whole goddamned bakery for contested landings. Yikes !
 
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Dejan Corovic

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Gut wrenching photo, that's for sure. Makes me think about how brutal war is. Issue is that media usually hides photos with results of violence, so one only associates historical events with dominating narrative, not actual reality of it.

Because beach was very shallow and sandy chance that these dark patches were algae is very slim.
 
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pigfarmer

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The pictures of the carnage at Tarawa made for a huge public reaction. Antietam, or Sharpsburg whichever you prefer to call it was probably the grandaddy of such things. Photography was new and that was the first time the public saw hideously graphic pictures and killing on a mass scale.

With The Old Breed
by Eugene Sledge is a classic narrative of the fighting on Guadalcanal and later that's worth reading. A lot of it is about the psychological aspects and even some of the tough old pre-war 1st Marines came a little unglued after too much of it.

I actually have an interest in the human component - what it might have been like on a personal level. This is why I am irritated by online gaming about these things. I suspect if getting burned or scalded to death or impaled by shrapnel or drowning or being eaten by sharks were actual possibilities for the gamer in World of Warships then it wouldn't be quite so popular.
 

Dejan Corovic

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That's why I think that media should actually show carnage of both sides, so that public losses appetite for it. If carnage was shown wars would very quickly stop.
 
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