Was Epstein Suicided?

Standingstones

Celestial
Prince Andrew might be in a tight corner these days but he is the Queen’s favorite son. There’s not a snowballs chance that he ever has to answer to his poor judgment in being friendly with Epstein.
 

wwkirk

Divine
The pawns off the hook.
Epstein guards admit to falsifying records, will skirt jail time in deal with prosecutors
The two jail employees tasked with guarding pedophile Jeffrey Epstein the night of his suicide in a Manhattan jail have admitted to falsifying records — but will skirt time behind bars under a deal with prosecutors.

Tova Noel and Michael Thomas admitted that they “willfully and knowingly” lied on forms stating that they’d made the required rounds checking on inmates the night of Epstein’s August 2019 suicide

Prosecutors said the guards were sleeping and surfing the web when they should have been monitoring the maximum security federal prisoner, who had recently been on suicide watch at the Metropolitan Correctional Center.

Under a plea deal announced Friday, they will avoid jail time in connection with their misconduct.

Instead, the disgraced duo will be required to complete 100 hours of community service and cooperate with a federal probe, according to the agreement, which must be approved by a judge.

“After a thorough investigation, and based on the facts of this case and the personal circumstances of the defendants, the Government has determined that the interests of justice will best be served by deferring prosecution in this District,” US Attorney Audrey Strauss wrote to Federal Judge Analisa Torres, in a letter filed Friday.

Noel and Thomas, who were working overtime shifts, allegedly sat just five yards from Epstein’s cell, but shopped online and took breaks instead of checking his cell every 30 minutes as required.

A New York medical examiner ruled that the government’s high profile prisoner — a billionaire serial predator linked to former presidents, titans of industry and international dignitaries — did indeed die from suicide by hanging at one of the nation’s most secure jails.

A 2019 poll revealed that only a third of Americans believed the nature of Epstein’s death was accurately reported.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
There's the thing, especially with mysterious deaths. More often than not simple laziness and/or stupidity are to blame than conspiracy. Plain old dumbassness is underrated.

That said, I'm in the 2/3 that thinks the perv got whacked because he just had too many names in his head that could fly out of his mouth. Alan Dershowitz and Bill Gates? Jesus. Well, maybe him too ....
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I can quite easily believe that a millionaire playboy accustomed to living it up with the wealthy and famous would choose death over being compelled to testify against friends and decades in prison. I mean, thats one helluva change to go through. I think its plausible that Epstein did kill himself, but paid the guards to look the other way and maybe help him in some way such as cut a bedsheet for him.
 

AlienView

Noble
...........That said, I'm in the 2/3 that thinks the perv got whacked because he just had too many names in his head that could fly out of his mouth. Alan Dershowitz and Bill Gates? Jesus. Well, maybe him too ....
You can bet on it - but will never prove it - Untouchable billionaires need to eliminate someone you can be sure they know how to do it right. When Prince Andrew was exposed the rest of Epsteins friends probably got really nervous, and you know the rest of the stroy.
Epstein himself had enough money to probably keep himselp out of jail - But collteral damage done to his 'friends' was more than they were willing to risk. They just anounced the guards who weren't paying attention would get off easy - The fix was in!
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
You can bet on it - but will never prove it - Untouchable billionaires need to eliminate someone you can be sure they know how to do it right. When Prince Andrew was exposed the rest of Epsteins friends probably got really nervous, and you know the rest of the stroy.
Epstein himself had enough money to probably keep himselp out of jail - But collteral damage done to his 'friends' was more than they were willing to risk. They just anounced the guards who weren't paying attention would get off easy - The fix was in!

Apart from what he might have spewed in court dying in ignominy is the least that could have happened to him. Hope he's getting turned on a BBQ spit right now.........
 

dr wu

Noble
I can quite easily believe that a millionaire playboy accustomed to living it up with the wealthy and famous would choose death over being compelled to testify against friends and decades in prison. I mean, thats one helluva change to go through. I think its plausible that Epstein did kill himself, but paid the guards to look the other way and maybe help him in some way such as cut a bedsheet for him.

That makes more sense than some conspiracy about a secret cartel doing it.
;)
 

wwkirk

Divine
Straightforward development, or is there a larger significance to this?
Federal prosecutors drop case against Jeffrey Epstein’s jail guards

Federal prosecutors filed a motion Thursday asking a court to drop charges against the two jail guards who were on duty the night that Jeffery Epstein killed himself inside his cell.

Michael Thomas and Tova Noel, the two guards on duty the night Epstein took his own life in August 2019, admitted to falsifying records but made a deal with federal prosecutors to avoid jail time. The two "admitted that they ‘willfully and knowingly completed materially false count and round slips regarding required counts and rounds’" in the housing unit where Epstein was being held.

Reuters reported that the two complied with six-month deferred prosecution agreements from May. The report said the two were accused of sleeping and checking out the internet on the night Epstein died.
 

nivek

As Above So Below

Standingstones

Celestial
The remarkable lengths taken to whitewash Bill Clinton's cozy links to pervert Jeffrey Epstein when Hillary ran for President
  • Epstein's lawyer Darren Indyke tried to get workers to declare they had not seen former president Bill Clinton visiting the disgraced financier's 'Paedo Island'
  • Miles and Cathy Alexander received the email during ill-fated Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential run which she lost to Donald Trump
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I seem to recall that Clinton took 26 flights on the “Lolita Express.” It is pretty hard to cover that up.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
I guess power and money have their privileges. No one seems to be going after the “Johns” who flew down to Epstein’s island. You have Clinton, Gates and even Itzhak Perlman the violinist making the flight.


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Rick Hunter

Celestial
I don't know, the shock value of the whole Epstein case wore off with me a long time ago. At any given time there are thousands of people doing what he did, except with much smaller budgets and non-celebrity clientelle. Las Vegas is crowded with this sort of thing. I'm glad that the story is coming to light and the players are being exposed, but in the end we see that human appetites and desires are the same as they always have been. Where there is a demand, someone is going to fill it whether it is coming from A-list celebs or ordinary guys who are willing to pay their hard earned wages for something they can't get otherwise.
 

AlienView

Noble
I don't know, the shock value of the whole Epstein case wore off with me a long time ago. At any given time there are thousands of people doing what he did, except with much smaller budgets and non-celebrity clientelle. Las Vegas is crowded with this sort of thing. I'm glad that the story is coming to light and the players are being exposed, but in the end we see that human appetites and desires are the same as they always have been. Where there is a demand, someone is going to fill it whether it is coming from A-list celebs or ordinary guys who are willing to pay their hard earned wages for something they can't get otherwise.
Probably true and maybe these underage women were taken advantage of........But with prostitution being the World's
oldest profession {so they say}, and with kids growing up younger now a days, I wonder if all of them were as sweet and
innocent as their money hungry lawyers make them out to be ?

Or, is Prince Andrew the dirty old man they're trying ot make him out to be or the chump who just got 'rolled' Royally?
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump all spent time on his "Fantasy Island." Let's not mince words here Andrew knew how old she was. He knew exactly what he was getting into
Andrew is a criminal. It would be the same as going to a high school looking for a hookup.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
How would you like to rely on your mother to fund you and take care of you? Andrew doesn’t have a pot to pee in. Mommy has given him everything. He has nothing now. No titles, money or family. This guy has no pride nor gets any respect these days. What a way to finish out your life.
 
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