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Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
I read all through sitchins website and his conclusions are closer to wishful assumptions. He also doesn't give much in the way of evidence to back up his wishful thinking. He also needed some help in science.
dr wu
Noble
I read his first 3 books many years ago.....and found them fascinating ,but sadly short in any way to verify the claims.
Simply saying that the tales of the Sumerians is real life stories of encounters with ancient aliens isn't proof of anything.
It's an interpretation of myth. And as you and many scientists have pointed out his science on this mythical planet and his astronomy is simply wrong...at least the way he presents it. An earlier 'theorist'...Velikovsky had the same problems in that he presented astronomical claims that were full of errors and wild speculation with no way to support them. It's likely Sitchin has borrowed ideas from him further compounding the mistakes.
I am sure you have seen this also enough times to make your fortune in coins.
Ancient Sanskrit from India tell of UFO visit in 4,000 B.C. - वेद Veda
The Ramayana even describes a beautiful chariot which 'arrived shining, a wonderful divine car that sped through the air'. In another passage, there is mention of a chariot being seen 'sailing overhead like a moon.' "The references in the Mahabharata are no less astounding:
Ramayana
At Rama's behest, the magnificent chariot rose up to a mountain of cloud with a tremendous din. Another passage reads:
"Bhima flew with his Vimana on an enormous ray which was as brilliant as the sun and made a noise like the thunder of a storm."
In the ancient Vymanka-Shastra (science of aeronautics), there is a description of a Vimana: "An apparatus which can go by its own force, from one place to place or globe to globe." Dr. Raghavan points out, "The text's revelations become even more astounding. Thirty-one parts-of which the machine consists-are described, including a photographing mirror underneath. The text also enumerates 16 kinds of metal that are needed to construct the flying vehicle: "But only three of them are known to us today. The rest remain untranslatable." Another authority who agrees with Dr. Raghavan's interpretations is Dr. A.V. Krishna Murty, professor of aeronautics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore.
"It is true," Dr. Krishna Murty says, "that the ancient Indian Vedas and other text refer to aeronautics, spaceships, flying machines, ancient astronauts. "A study of the Sanskrit texts has convinced me that ancient India did know the secret of building flying machines-and that those machines were patterned after spaceships coming from other planets."
Rukma Vimana.
The Vedic traditions of India tell us that we are now in the Fourth Age of mankind. The Vedas call them the "The Golden Age", "The Silver Age", and "The Bronze Age" and we are now, according to their scriptures in the "The Iron Age". As we approach the end of the 20th century both Native Americans, Mayans, and Incans, prophecies claim that we are coming to the end of an age. Sanskrit texts are filled with references to Gods who fought battles in the sky using Vihmanas equipped with weapons as deadly as any we can deploy in these more enlightened times.
For example, there is a passage in the Ramayana which reads:
The Puspaka car that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravan; that aerial and excellent car going everywhere at will…. that car resembling a bright cloud in the sky.".. and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent car at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere."
In the Mahabharata, an ancient Indian poem of enormous length, we learn that an individual named Asura Maya had a Vimana measuring twelve cubits in circumference, with four strong wheels. The poem is a veritable gold mine of information relating to conflicts between gods who settled their differences apparently using weapons as lethal as the ones we are capable of deploying.
Apart from 'blazing missiles', the poem records the use of other deadly weapons. 'Indra's Dart' operated via a circular 'reflector'. When switched on, it produced a 'shaft of light' which, when focused on any target, immediately 'consumed it with its power'. In one particular exchange, the hero, Krishna, is pursuing his enemy, Salva, in the sky, when Salva's Vimana, the Saubha is made invisiblein some way. Undeterred, Krishna immediately fires off a special weapon: 'I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound'.
Many other terrible weapons are described, quite matter of factly, in the Mahabharata, but the most fearsome of all is the one used against the Vrishis. The narrative records:
Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the three cities of the Vrishis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendor. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashesthe entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas.
Ancient Sanskrit from India tell of UFO visit in 4,000 B.C. - वेद Veda
The Ramayana even describes a beautiful chariot which 'arrived shining, a wonderful divine car that sped through the air'. In another passage, there is mention of a chariot being seen 'sailing overhead like a moon.' "The references in the Mahabharata are no less astounding:
Ramayana
At Rama's behest, the magnificent chariot rose up to a mountain of cloud with a tremendous din. Another passage reads:
"Bhima flew with his Vimana on an enormous ray which was as brilliant as the sun and made a noise like the thunder of a storm."
In the ancient Vymanka-Shastra (science of aeronautics), there is a description of a Vimana: "An apparatus which can go by its own force, from one place to place or globe to globe." Dr. Raghavan points out, "The text's revelations become even more astounding. Thirty-one parts-of which the machine consists-are described, including a photographing mirror underneath. The text also enumerates 16 kinds of metal that are needed to construct the flying vehicle: "But only three of them are known to us today. The rest remain untranslatable." Another authority who agrees with Dr. Raghavan's interpretations is Dr. A.V. Krishna Murty, professor of aeronautics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore.
"It is true," Dr. Krishna Murty says, "that the ancient Indian Vedas and other text refer to aeronautics, spaceships, flying machines, ancient astronauts. "A study of the Sanskrit texts has convinced me that ancient India did know the secret of building flying machines-and that those machines were patterned after spaceships coming from other planets."
Rukma Vimana.
The Vedic traditions of India tell us that we are now in the Fourth Age of mankind. The Vedas call them the "The Golden Age", "The Silver Age", and "The Bronze Age" and we are now, according to their scriptures in the "The Iron Age". As we approach the end of the 20th century both Native Americans, Mayans, and Incans, prophecies claim that we are coming to the end of an age. Sanskrit texts are filled with references to Gods who fought battles in the sky using Vihmanas equipped with weapons as deadly as any we can deploy in these more enlightened times.
For example, there is a passage in the Ramayana which reads:
The Puspaka car that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravan; that aerial and excellent car going everywhere at will…. that car resembling a bright cloud in the sky.".. and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent car at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere."
In the Mahabharata, an ancient Indian poem of enormous length, we learn that an individual named Asura Maya had a Vimana measuring twelve cubits in circumference, with four strong wheels. The poem is a veritable gold mine of information relating to conflicts between gods who settled their differences apparently using weapons as lethal as the ones we are capable of deploying.
Apart from 'blazing missiles', the poem records the use of other deadly weapons. 'Indra's Dart' operated via a circular 'reflector'. When switched on, it produced a 'shaft of light' which, when focused on any target, immediately 'consumed it with its power'. In one particular exchange, the hero, Krishna, is pursuing his enemy, Salva, in the sky, when Salva's Vimana, the Saubha is made invisiblein some way. Undeterred, Krishna immediately fires off a special weapon: 'I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound'.
Many other terrible weapons are described, quite matter of factly, in the Mahabharata, but the most fearsome of all is the one used against the Vrishis. The narrative records:
Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the three cities of the Vrishis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendor. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashesthe entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas.
I am going to quote myself for a question to Dr Wu,
if this is an example of religious iconography.
Are there other examples you can give that show an image such as this, where the text identifying it as confirmed iconography says oh this is the angel Harry? An it looks like this. Because I have to say, I am far from an expert on religious images. But all the ones I have ever noticed have an obvious resemblance to something traditional.
Such as this...
So if what you say is true, can you show me an image or two that depicts something that looks for all the world like a flying craft, or UFO, that some text somewhere refers to as, I don't know, an angel???
Oh, I dare you to quote Ezekiel 1 to 24
haha
CasualBystander
Celestial
I am sure you have seen this also enough times to make your fortune in coins.
Ancient Sanskrit from India tell of UFO visit in 4,000 B.C. - वेद Veda
The Ramayana even describes a beautiful chariot which 'arrived shining, a wonderful divine car that sped through the air'. In another passage, there is mention of a chariot being seen 'sailing overhead like a moon.' "The references in the Mahabharata are no less astounding:
Ramayana
At Rama's behest, the magnificent chariot rose up to a mountain of cloud with a tremendous din. Another passage reads:
"Bhima flew with his Vimana on an enormous ray which was as brilliant as the sun and made a noise like the thunder of a storm."
In the ancient Vymanka-Shastra (science of aeronautics), there is a description of a Vimana: "An apparatus which can go by its own force, from one place to place or globe to globe." Dr. Raghavan points out, "The text's revelations become even more astounding. Thirty-one parts-of which the machine consists-are described, including a photographing mirror underneath. The text also enumerates 16 kinds of metal that are needed to construct the flying vehicle: "But only three of them are known to us today. The rest remain untranslatable." Another authority who agrees with Dr. Raghavan's interpretations is Dr. A.V. Krishna Murty, professor of aeronautics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore.
"It is true," Dr. Krishna Murty says, "that the ancient Indian Vedas and other text refer to aeronautics, spaceships, flying machines, ancient astronauts. "A study of the Sanskrit texts has convinced me that ancient India did know the secret of building flying machines-and that those machines were patterned after spaceships coming from other planets."
Rukma Vimana.
The Vedic traditions of India tell us that we are now in the Fourth Age of mankind. The Vedas call them the "The Golden Age", "The Silver Age", and "The Bronze Age" and we are now, according to their scriptures in the "The Iron Age". As we approach the end of the 20th century both Native Americans, Mayans, and Incans, prophecies claim that we are coming to the end of an age. Sanskrit texts are filled with references to Gods who fought battles in the sky using Vihmanas equipped with weapons as deadly as any we can deploy in these more enlightened times.
For example, there is a passage in the Ramayana which reads:
The Puspaka car that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravan; that aerial and excellent car going everywhere at will…. that car resembling a bright cloud in the sky.".. and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent car at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere."
In the Mahabharata, an ancient Indian poem of enormous length, we learn that an individual named Asura Maya had a Vimana measuring twelve cubits in circumference, with four strong wheels. The poem is a veritable gold mine of information relating to conflicts between gods who settled their differences apparently using weapons as lethal as the ones we are capable of deploying.
Apart from 'blazing missiles', the poem records the use of other deadly weapons. 'Indra's Dart' operated via a circular 'reflector'. When switched on, it produced a 'shaft of light' which, when focused on any target, immediately 'consumed it with its power'. In one particular exchange, the hero, Krishna, is pursuing his enemy, Salva, in the sky, when Salva's Vimana, the Saubha is made invisiblein some way. Undeterred, Krishna immediately fires off a special weapon: 'I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound'.
Many other terrible weapons are described, quite matter of factly, in the Mahabharata, but the most fearsome of all is the one used against the Vrishis. The narrative records:
Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the three cities of the Vrishis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendor. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashesthe entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas.
Exterior view Vimana.
Some of the more suspicious claims of Vimana sightings show them as upside down in a "V" configuration.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
I am going to quote myself for a question to Dr Wu,
if this is an example of religious iconography.
Are there other examples you can give that show an image such as this, where the text identifying it as confirmed iconography says oh this is the angel Harry? An it looks like this. Because I have to say, I am far from an expert on religious images. But all the ones I have ever noticed have an obvious resemblance to something traditional.
Such as this...
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So if what you say is true, can you show me an image or two that depicts something that looks for all the world like a flying craft, or UFO, that some text somewhere refers to as, I don't know, an angel???
Oh, I dare you to quote Ezekiel 1 to 24
Nice image.....all I see is the Ascension of Jesus......and unless taken out of context there isn't any evidence of EBEs in the Book of Ezekial.
bleak
Adept
Great sources. Well said.
According to the Vedic literature, we are in the age of Kali or Kali Yuga. The dark age. Makes sense, yes? They say that the ages are cyclical like the seasons. As above; so below.
Why not? What's keeping you? Not even plausible? I am honestly askin cuz it only takes a minor shift in perspective to see where the Intervention Theory could be the truth.
One thing is translation of cuneiform, another is the clay engravings. Did Sitchin just make some or all of those up? If he did, he really was a genius.
What is the dissonance between this...
And this...
August
Metanoia
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
Last one is re-carved hieroglyphs.
That's what I heard.....and its obvious that people are jumping to assumptions without knowing how to read Egyptian writings.
August
Metanoia
Yes that correct CY . From Wiki,
The "helicopter" image is the result of carved stone being re-used over time. The initial carving was made during the reign
Seti 1 and translates to "He who repulses the nine [enemies of Egypt]". This carving was later filled in with plaster and re-carved during the reign of Ramesses 11 with the title "He who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries". Over time, the plaster has eroded away, leaving both inscriptions partially visible and creating a palimpsest like effect of overlapping hieroglyphs
CasualBystander
Celestial
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
If one landed in my yard I'd give the a sign of peace and then invite them in for tea.
nivek
As Above So Below
What if the sign of peace is an insult to them, or worse they consider it a threat and go to war with us...You cannot assume they understand our customs and symbols and meanings...
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
It has nothing to do with any earth customs......but if they've been following us for any length of time they'd understand.
nivek
As Above So Below
Seeing all those stars in the night sky when I was very young, then a little sci-fi on tv during my youth had me thinking there is an abundance of life out there...Even before I heard about aliens visiting this world or seeing UFO photos, I always thought this universe was teeming with life...
Visenya
Honorable
I saw a UFO, which made me rethink the possibility of aliens being here on earth. But looking back, the possibility of it being extraterrestrials were probably slim. It was most likely some sort of advanced aircraft being tested by the military. Or maybe I was hallucinating.
I lost interest in aliens after some years, but after reading Sitchin I got back into it. Though nowadays I always take it with a grain of salt. Is it probable? Maybe. Probably not though. The idea still fascinates me, however.
I lost interest in aliens after some years, but after reading Sitchin I got back into it. Though nowadays I always take it with a grain of salt. Is it probable? Maybe. Probably not though. The idea still fascinates me, however.