Will be releasing exact method of UFO propulsion very soon.

spacecase0

earth human
Dejan Corovic, why not use iron and not aluminum ?
looking at a table of the NMR, there are a few elements that would not require microwaves.
would make it much easier to build it at a lower frequency.
or you could potentially use a higher frequency if you picked something like hydrogen
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Copper, carbon, mercury, and iron react in a way that they can mutually coexist in a quantum state and once excited to that state, can create a harmonious feedback loop that becomes self sustaining. Like a capacitor holds Electric harge. It does not require a direct power source... a Tesla coil type generator would be enough to create this state.

These elements combined in multiple layers, can maintain a quantum energy vibration loop. Layers of these elements can encapsulate a housing whereby the occupants are carried safely in a state zero inertia.

Another device inside the encapsulated cockpit can be used to create directional movement via ofsetting the frequency of one three units place in equlateral triangle to each other.

(A triangle in a circle)

This is what was given to me in a vision... but I have no idea how to make it work...
Perhaps it is just random synapses firing... or perhaps I am supposed to tell you this... mayne it is divine inspiration... or maybe worthless dribble...

I don’t know...
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Dejan Corovic, why not use iron and not aluminum ?
looking at a table of the NMR, there are a few elements that would not require microwaves.
would make it much easier to build it at a lower frequency.
or you could potentially use a higher frequency if you picked something like hydrogen

Great dig :) that MIT table.

But if you look into the rightmost 4 columns, they are all in 5 to 14 Tesla range. There is no chance we can reach such a high magnetic fields. At this stage of research, I am aiming for about 0.7T in a trombone C-shape electro-magnet configuration. Trombone C-shape is there so one can vary the size of the gap and strength of the field.

As well, frequencies look to low. Dr Alzofon was performing the experiment at 9+ THz, but he was using Electron Paramagnetic Resonance, we are aiming for Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. Difference between EPR and NMR is that EPR is precessing electrons and NMR is precessing nuclei. Because electrons have much higher magnetic moment frequencies are much higher (more expensive to reach). Essentially we are switching to NMR, instead of EPR to cut experiment's price down.

Please check this paper, that I am currently using as a reference for NMR: "Table of Nuclear Magnetic Dipole and Electric Quadrupole Moments". It seems that it lists almost all currently known elements and their isotopes. The way it works, one takes nuclear magnetic moment from that paper and than, with it, calculates gyro-magnetic ratio (g-ratio), and than in the third, final, step one gets Larmor frequency from g-ratio. But they are simple arithmetic calculations.

Please don't rush into any experiments, before exact setup was derived from equations, otherwise it is highly possible that one will get a false negative (aka. disappointment) in a place of perfectly performing experiment.

I am trying to stick as close to the Dr Alzofon's original experiments, but I am still researching ways to make it cheaper, so I might come with something much more feasible. If one deviates from Alzofon's experiments than one has to do all the calculations from scratch. Please note that aluminum was not used in a solid form like a rod, or a sphere, but in a form of powder with sub 1 micron grains. We can't swap Al for Fe just like that, because than the whole experiment might look different.

Copper, carbon, mercury, and iron react in a way that they can mutually coexist in a quantum state and once excited to that state, can create a harmonious feedback loop that becomes self sustaining. Like a capacitor holds Electric harge. It does not require a direct power source... a Tesla coil type generator would be enough to create this state.

Maybe that works as well. Broadly speaking that sounds like a time crystals that Dr. Frank Wilczek described, but that would be extremely hard to make in an amateur setup, like we are trying to do.
 
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spacecase0

earth human
if you noticed, the frequency drops with lower magnetic strength.
if we use a magnetic field we can come up with, it also drops the frequencies down into regular radio wave ranges, then no pricey microwave transmitters will be needed.

as far as not building things right now,
I have been playing with this sort of thing for a long time now.
I have most the hardware already built.
have the ability to make new custom hardware pretty easy.
trying a slightly new format is really not that hard for me.

now I will go read the PDF you linked to
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Get a David Alzofon's book from Amazon. It goes into more detail than I can here.

Regular radio wave ranges are indeed more interesting, because one will be than using near field, not far field. Far field has almost no effect in comparison with strong physical coupling that near field can produce.

Problem with starting too early is that you can easily do a wrong setup and than blame Alzofon, rather then yourself. It's better to make smaller steps away from trodden path, than bigger and bigger. Dr. Alzofon left really detailed numerical model and everything can be calculated to a fine point before running.

This paper was actually used by Dr. Alzofon himself to get all the parameters needed for Aluminum: Phys. Rev. 113, 1462 (1959) - Nuclear Relaxation in Aluminum but it is $35.0 behind the paywall. https://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.113.1462
 

spacecase0

earth human
I design everything before I build it
and if I can't figure out my error windows, I rethink the design till I can.
clearly that is not possible with some new and unknown forces, but in that case, I don't blame the idea that got me to try in the first place.
I try to go through the first 4 to 5 designs and what the expected results would be, then consider what I would do next to make it better if it worked. so then I plan on building the better one to start with, and carry that out with possible working and failed tests before I even start building the first one.
you can replace much money with being more clever
the only thing I have not figured out how to design around entirely is the need for a powerful enough radio transmitter (about $4500), so I have tried moving designs so that I can use the lower frequencies where I already own hardware to send lots of power.

not sure that the article behind the pay wall is to useful,
and I say that because if we are going for NMR, and we need an iron core to get there,
why not use the iron directly ?
from what I can find on the net, even at very high magnetic fields, the iron resonance is still in the range I already have transmitters for.
so, why bother with aluminum ?
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I design everything before I build it
and if I can't figure out my error windows, I rethink the design till I can.
clearly that is not possible with some new and unknown forces, but in that case, I don't blame the idea that got me to try in the first place.
I try to go through the first 4 to 5 designs and what the expected results would be, then consider what I would do next to make it better if it worked. so then I plan on building the better one to start with, and carry that out with possible working and failed tests before I even start building the first one.
you can replace much money with being more clever
the only thing I have not figured out how to design around entirely is the need for a powerful enough radio transmitter (about $4500), so I have tried moving designs so that I can use the lower frequencies where I already own hardware to send lots of power.

not sure that the article behind the pay wall is to useful,
and I say that because if we are going for NMR, and we need an iron core to get there,
why not use the iron directly ?
from what I can find on the net, even at very high magnetic fields, the iron resonance is still in the range I already have transmitters for.
so, why bother with aluminum ?

The reason why iron is bad idea is because iron is ferromagnetic, while aluminum is paramagmetic. Iron will have a tendency to "get stuck" with strong internal residual magnetic field (I forgot the name of that property, maybe reluctance or remnance?). In contrast, aluminum is paramagnetic and it will never "get stuck" and it will be more responsive to magnetic field.

Anyway, iron or aluminum, we are talking pocket change. Sample is only about 2 grams. We can do both. but principle is wrong, we should first strictly stick to Dr Alzofon's recommendations. The most expensive parts are electromagnet, design of electromagnet, highly precise digital scale, data aquisition and programming. Electromagnet needs to be designed not just for strength of magnetic field, but for uniformity of the field in the volume where sample will sit.

That paper is very important because it gives values for room temperature behavior of aluminium. Those values in MIT's table are for cooled equipment as well as for the paper I liked to. NMR machines are normally operating inside dewers cooled by liquid nitrogen because that gives nuclear relaxation times that are one order of magnitude longer and easier to work with. Longer relaxation times get you signal higher above the noise threshold. We can't afford that level of commitment with cooling, so we're stuck with room temperature where the noise is the biggest problem. That paper will help us work around the noise and pull out stronger and cleaner signal.

The way NMR works, during nuclear relaxation, feedback signal is created. From feedback signal you know that NMR kicked in for real and one is not just keeping fingers crossed.

But let's move technical conversation off the thread, otherwise we'll wear down everybody else. I'll contact you through forum message.
 
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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
someone asked if there was proof of gravity and magnetic fields, or some such phrasing. go look at the tests of William Hooper my lesson here is that there are 2 separate things we see showing up as voltage, and that is what was going on in my test setup.

Oh, you reproduced William Hooper's experiment. That's phenomenal! I am re-reading it now.

I remember reading it a long time ago, but back than I didn't know much about electricity back than.

If anybody wants to start digging deeper into Alzofon-Hutchison effect, here is a good place to start from: Alzofon - to gravely go - Revolution-Green

This guy built DIY NMR machine and he even got feedback signal from nuclear resonance, but it's horrendously noisy. I think, that room temperature is our number one enemy.

 
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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Is your price for a small test article or a full system?

Given modern 3d printing it should be possible to build a small test article that demonstrates some effect.

Just demonstrating any lateral or vertical force would be something.

It's for the full system. The test article, as far as I currently understand, is 1.5 gram, mixture of 97.5% Al 1 micron powder, with 2.5% colloidal iron, all bonded with some plastic made by 3M that is used for binding EPR samples.

The biggest costs, as usual, are premises and salaries. Even a very good instrumentation would be just one third of cost.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
It's been a year and a half since I was last on the forum but I got a message from Spacecase0 telling me to look at this thread. So I have and I also have read the last four pages.

Wonderful thread Dejan, however it is my opinion you're being impaired by your own preconceived ideas about what you think you know. That knowledge, it's holding you back, it's an illusion too. It's giving you the impression you think you understand what is taking place: Maybe you already understand this and that is why you said what you did in the beginning of this thread. Spacecase0 can steer you right if you listen.

Shadowprophet is however correct with regards to his perception of interia and the link to propulsion drives in saucers, tetrahedron, and the extremely pissed off flying basket balls. He's right about that one.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
DARPA is throwing a million dollars of new funding at EMDrive so the money is out there.

Personally I think bouncing photons would lead nowhere. Photons have no mass. Gravity must be coming from nuclei. If GTR can be reduced to space-time around nuclei we would sort it out long time ago.

On the other hand (please post test results and videos) the people who claim a theory for what he was doing haven't produced better results to my knowledge.

Can you please rephrase this sentence, I can't understand what you are trying to say.


No wander that Tajmar was interested into Hutchinson. Tajmar did lots of experiments derived from Podkletnov line of reasoning which was illuminating rotating superconductor with microwaves. All of that has some elements of what Hutchnison was doing. Problem was that Tajmar was aiming for Couper pairs, which are just pairs of electrons, with very little mass. Alzofon's theory was simply to aim for nuclei, which makes more sense to me.

But, anyway, thank you for a tip.
 
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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Wonderful thread Dejan, however it is my opinion you're being impaired by your own preconceived ideas about what you think you know. That knowledge, it's holding you back, it's an illusion too. It's giving you the impression you think you understand what is taking place: Maybe you already understand this and that is why you said what you did in the beginning of this thread. Spacecase0 can steer you right if you listen.

We are all only standing on the shoulders of giants before us. What's good about Alzofon-Hutchison's approach it is practically just one very small, relatively easy, step away (adiabatic gravitational cooling) from mainstream science. It's by no means giant leap. Actually another researcher, back in 80-90's, by name Floyd Wright (or White?) did experiments with transformers and he got weight reduction from permanent magnets that were cooling themselves during his experiments. But he died and kept critical info secret.

Floyd's experiment as well helps confirming Dr Alzofon's explanation. But Dr Alzofon came with theoretical and deeply mathematical explanation, well funded on mainstream science.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
Personally I think bouncing photons would lead nowhere. Photons have no mass. Gravity must be coming from nuclei. If GTR can be reduced to space-time around nuclei we would sort it out long time ago.

Electromagnetic retardation of a mass moving through a conductive medium demonstrates that mass has weight due to induction.

Gravity is incoherent magnetism which is created in mass by the same process. Virtually all matter has a magnetic field. A magnet demonstrates that crystalline formations act as wave guides to energies, and that when these crystalline formations are distrupted the magnetic field then collapses or is weakened. Rather naturally, and as one suspect, there are certain materials which make for better wave guides to convert energies to a recirculating field which is the magnetic field. Energies are from space (actually it's counter-space because it's a 2D incoherent dipole energy field). It is through the emergence of this field by it's passage that matter is given form by the production of a magnetic field, without which there would be no 3D reality. That is where your soul goes when you pass this life, it goes back into the 2D field, and out of it is where life comes.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
We are all only standing on the shoulders of giants before us. What's good about Alzofon-Hutchison's approach it is practically just one very small, relatively easy, step away (adiabatic gravitational cooling) from mainstream science. It's by no means giant leap. Actually another researcher, back in 80-90's, by name Floyd Wright (or White?) did experiments with transformers and he got weight reduction from permanent magnets that were cooling themselves during his experiments. But he died and kept critical info secret.

Floyd's experiment as well helps confirming Dr Alzofon's explanation. But Dr Alzofon came with theoretical and deeply mathematical explanation, well funded on mainstream science.

Don't know anything about them really. I cannot say. I do agree a great deal with you in the main.
Wheelers book is available free in 3rd ed. I think it's now in it's 5th edition on Amazon and is changed with more information. Might be worth consulting but at least see what he says. Probably can skip the first 100 pages of Einstein bashing, but I personally enjoyed it, so anyways there's a lot of that expressed by Wheeler and frankly I can't disagree.
Uncovering the missing Secrets of Magnetism : Ken L Wheeler : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

His guiding light is Carl Fredrick Krafft.
http://www.unariunwisdom.com/wp-con...AND-ITS-VORTICES-BY-Carl-Frederick-Krafft.pdf

You would be well advised to read the brief given on the ether theory by the late great Henry Steven's in his book;"Hitlers Flying Saucers." The brief is in the section on the Karl Schappeller Device.
https://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf
People with first hand knowledge & how the war on smoking is really related to aerogels which are dielectrics.
Karl Schappeller's Secret Sublimate for his Electret!

The next really great book you will want to read is by William Lyne;"Occult Ether Physics."
Tesla_Ethysics.pdf (PDFy mirror) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

My point is that these devices/machines, they don't work off the corrupted physics taught in colleges and universities. There's a reason for that, well several actually, but that' another story.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
It needs to be said though, I was just in here basically Ribbing on Dejan, That was my intent anyway, I'm honored to know so many people who really love physics as I do, I fully admit I was literally high at the time, and I didn't do a great job displaying my sense of humor about this, Because, To Dejan, This is a theory he likes,

Well, I like theories like Multiverse theory and Antigravity, And Theories, And to be fair, I like some theories that go way out into the Spiritual direction and science doesn't even have support for them, Still yet, I've fought for those theories.

Dejan, I'm sorry bro If I made you feel in any way Like I was stepping on this theory, I didn't want to do that, It wasn't my intention, And I was just High and trying to have fun with you, This theory, I don't know If i believe it as empirical, But It is a smart theory, And I really love the technical aspects, I've learned things about magnetization that I simply did not know, All because I've been keeping up with Dejan and his theory here.

Whether I accept this theory or not, This is an intelligent well thought out theory that can actually teach people a lot about certain subjects, just studying up on it.

I deem this Theory worthwhile. If not empirical, It's informative, And it leads to learning.

What else could someone ask for?
 

Gambeir

Celestial
It needs to be said though, I was just in here basically Ribbing on Dejan, That was my intent anyway, I'm honored to know so many people who really love physics as I do, I fully admit I was literally high at the time, and I didn't do a great job displaying my sense of humor about this, Because, To Dejan, This is a theory he likes,

Well, I like theories like Multiverse theory and Antigravity, And Theories, And to be fair, I like some theories that go way out into the Spiritual direction and science doesn't even have support for them, Still yet, I've fought for those theories.

Dejan, I'm sorry bro If I made you feel in any way Like I was stepping on this theory, I didn't want to do that, It wasn't my intention, And I was just High and trying to have fun with you, This theory, I don't know If i believe it as empirical, But It is a smart theory, And I really love the technical aspects, I've learned things about magnetization that I simply did not know, All because I've been keeping up with Dejan and his theory here.

Whether I accept this theory or not, This is an intelligent well thought out theory that can actually teach people a lot about certain subjects, just studying up on it.

I deem this Theory worthwhile. If not empirical, It's informative, And it leads to learning.

What else could someone ask for?

Well you're damn sure not going to be explaining a flying basket ball without it that's for sure.
WATCH: Did A UFO Blow Up SpaceX? Watch Slow Motion Footage!
 

nivek

As Above So Below
It's been a year and a half since I was last on the forum but I got a message from Spacecase0 telling me to look at this thread.

Welcome back, great to see you again, you have been missed...q37

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Gambeir

Celestial
Welcome back, great to see you again, you have been missed...q37

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Thank you Nivek, the posts are aimed at Dejan and intended to assist. They are not intended to confuse his group. As I have said, and I stand by my statement, that there is no way it is possible to explain or to understand these vehicles without understanding the ether theory and the material in the cited texts. The theory which predates the Einsteinian conception of how Universe works is the right theory. There is a high probability that all our lives depend on success, and most important of all, that the information on how it works is made public. As Dejan stated in the beginning, there is no way to make money off this, and not just because it can be done with off the shelf materials and relatively primitive hardware and materials, but because we are all now living with a proxy government run by organized crime and mass murders.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/a...deadline.com/914c3f865b28877412c07306a14f73e8

These spherical UFO's are now invisible as evidenced by the known Flir video's that have made their way to the public arena. How that works is in William Lyne's book but remember that his conception of the ether, while worthy, still predates the invention of the ferrocell viewer and the work of Ken Wheeler and it's important to keep that in mind.

Anyone who has the knowledge of the text's I've cited, together with the knowledge shown here on this forum, should be able to deduce how a sphere operates. These sphere's are tools designed to work in conjuction with high energy weapons. They are probably not armed themselves and are probably not occupied either but are in fact drones. They are probably being remotely controlled in large groups and have been around for a very long time generally speaking. First as small piloted vehicles, remotely for small ones, and as personal vehicles for larger ones. Records on these go back as long as I've been alive mostly as identified objects. Here I must say that there is a reason the military did all these bullshit balloon tests. It's almost like we were being given an IQ test which we all failed miserably btw.

Sphereical Ufo's have often been seen and thought to be satellites by most people; myself included. So great our gullibility, especially people from my generation and earlier, that we never suspected any other explanation, but those explanations now seem remote and naive given the evidence now available. So they have been around for a long time, possibly since before WWII and almost certainly some conception of them dates from that epoch of time if not far sooner. Possibly from as early as the 1920's if you can believe it.

Sphere's have been videoed as exhibiting bird like flocking behavior, and also sometimes mistakenly seen as masses of balloons at high altitude, and we have also mistakenly seen them as possibly being critters from space. I made these errors myself due to the apparent flocking behavior. I've even almost fallen for the mass balloon release explanation. These ideas were a mistake, evidently a serious one, because we now know that a good deal of research has been put forward in recent times to create software to emulate this behavior, and so that groups of drones can replicate coordinated behavior. There is a very specific reason for this.

It now seems that our highway in history which leads to the development of computers is perhaps not as accidental as it appears at first glance, but rather was a guided effort with clear objectives whose goals have been the subject of warnings ranging from George Orwell to Franklin Roosevelt. Anti-gravity technology was clearly achieved by the Nazi Scientists. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The US military achieved this no later than the early 1950's and probably had working prototypes or even advanced machines in their hands with the collapse of the Third Reich. There is no doubt about this in my mind.

I don't care if anyone reading this believes me or not, but I myself can clearly see the objectives, and as Hillary Clinton was to state; the harvest is near. You better start helping to get this figured or else is just about the size of it. The ruling pedophile cult which controls the politicans and the military are driven by desire. They are not driven by money but by an absolute lust for power to own and to control. They already have absolute control and ownership over money creation and have unlimited resources in that department.

Now I'm veering off into the weeds but some of it is necessary in order to have the lights at least blink on once in a while. We are all in great danger and not aware of it and that is something we all have to realize, but to return to the flying basket balls, there is one thing to notice and that is the microwave towers all over the F---ing place. I won't even bother addressing the impending food supply collapse which is being engineered as a by product fall out of microwaves, but there is a direct cross correlation in why pollinating insects and migratory species are dying in masse because of these towers. We now realize that insects and animals can see the phase shift in the EM field and use it to navigate. Honey bees cannot find their back to the hives and of course there are other effects as well. This shit is scary as F--- and you are not being told about it. Half the butterflys in the world are facing extinction right now. Anyone who's half awake should begin preparing for the next 9/11.

Here I will do something which my spider senses say is probably ill advised but you must understand that the idea behind this and other related technology is designed with the specific purpose of enslaving the human species as well as killing 80 to 90 percent of the global population. The next 9/11 will look more like Tom Cruises version of H.G. Wells War of the Worlds, and after world will look exactly like his following version shown in the movie "Oblivion."

See if this image aids you in envisioning what the future holds. Remember Michael Hastings, how about Paul Walker, how about the numbers of forest fires, or the suspect precision house burnings in CA, ect. These are an updated version of the Nazi Solar Death Ray. Effectively mirrors. They are part of a package of precision guided weapons used for terror and assassinations. Now put this all together and figure it out for yourselves for once. I don't mean to really be an A-Hole but GD we have to get this or else they are going to murder all of us and that's not some wack a doodle fantasy evidently. Why don't they want you to have guns? Ah...because they might not want you shooting these down maybe? Especially when it becomes obviously apparent that your neighbor just vanished in to a puff of ashes and houses are exploding all around you while strange round balls are whizzing about, because it won't take too long to gather the idea there's a cross coorelation between what's going on and these odd sphereical thingy's.

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