UFOs And Stopped Clocks.

karl 12

Noble
There's been some decidedly freaky aspects to global UFO reports over the years and one factor which does seem to keep on popping up is the stopping of (or interference with) clocks and watches during a UFO encounter.

Seems sometimes multiple timepieces are involved but it doesn't seem to matter about mains or separate battery power source and non electric watches have also been affected - bizarrely some UFO witnesses have also reported different watches refusing to work after their experience or clocks stopping after they touch them.

Like with the animal reaction feature, if a person goes back and looks through some of the older UFO literature then some relevant nuggets in the case details do seem to stand out. Am sure there'll be plenty more examples out there so if anyone's aware of any (or has opinions about what's going on) then please post.


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• Some very strange UFO accounts at the link below taken from newspaper clippings (primarily from the 1970s and 1980s) compiled by Loren E. Gross - full list well worth a read on a rainy day.


Some UFO Notes By Loren E. Gross

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Articles:

Salesman Alan Cave claims he became a time traveler the day he spotted a strange orange cloud. For as he drove under the mysterious object in the sky, Alan says his milometer, his watch and a digital pen all moved backwards. Yesterday he told of his close encounter on the A46 between Bath and Stroud. “It was exactly 11 o’clock when I glanced at my watch and it said eight o’clock. My digital pen said nine. “Both were right when I set out. “Then the speedo started going back – it was weird. It lost 300 miles, though a mechanic had since told me it’s impossible.” Alan, 45, of Dorchester Road, Tauton, Somerset, doesn’t believe in flying saucers. “But something very odd occurred in those few seconds – and I wouldn’t like it to happen again.” * London, England. Daily Star. 3 November 1981.


And


It was a shaken John Struble who got the cement truck under way again after the object was gone, who noticed moments later that his watch apparently had been stopped too. Mrs. Struble said the watch had kept perfect time prior to the sighting, and was five minutes slow afterwards — approximately the duration of the UFO appearance. The watch was non-electric. * Kalispell, Montana. Daily Inter Lake. 22 October 1975.


And


Springfield, Missouri - April, 1984. "Several head of cattle graze on the property; there have been recent attempts at rustling. The caretaker calls his wife on the citizens band radio in his truck. She is at their home on the property. A friend of hers is visiting. The caretaker says he is going to check out this suspicious occurrence. He drives toward the lights. He comes to the end of a dirt road in front of a deep ravine, near the spot where he saw the lights. That is all he remembers. There is a 10 minute gap in the report. No radio contact. Nothing. Except that, somehow, the caretaker finds himself on the other side of the normally impassable ravine. He calls his wife for help. “Where are you?” she asks. “I don’t know,” he responds. His truck won’t start, the lights won’t work, he feels disoriented. When he finally returns to the house, his wife and her friend notice that his battery powered watch is running 12 minutes slow. The next day, he will have to replace the alternator and the regulator in his truck. Both have been burned out. What is the caretaker’s opinion of what happened? “He doesn’t have one,” Mrs. Becker says. “He knows something unusual happened to him, but he’s not sure what.” * St. Louis, Missouri. Globe Democrat. 19 June 1984.

Newsclippings - Full List



• Likewise some extremely interesting reading found in Keith Basterfield's full catalogue linked below (I thought so anyway) - some details also include timepiece tampering.


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20 Aug 1979 Hatfield Tas 2128hrs A thirty one year old ex-police woman was driving towards Devonport in a 1971 VW station wagon when a green light appeared behind the vehicle, lighting the interior and casting a green glow through the car. However, the surrounding countryside did not seem to be lit up. Although she pressed down on the accelerator the car did not respond by speeding up. It actually decreased speed to forty eight km/h. She changed from fourth to third gear, then to second but to no avail. The light remained the same height and distance from the car, keeping up with the vehicle for some eight kilometres. Without warning, the light switched off and the vehicle returned to normal. Later she found there had been an abnormally high useage of petrol for the trip. Other effects were a loss of fuel, apparent loss of brakes, loss of power and a clock stopped. (TUFOIC.)


And


Nov 1974 The Sideling Tas Ca. 2300hrs On his way home to Scottsdale a man saw a soundless object about the size of an enormous building about half a kilometre away to his left, in the north. His car engine and radio cut out and the figures on his watch lit up really brightly. The object travelled along and was last seen going straight upwards. Duration three to four minutes. The watch broke down shortly after the event. The left hand mudguard of the car changed colour from red to orange and stayed that colour. (TUFOIC.)

A CATALOGUE OF AUSTRALIAN UFO VEHICLE INTERFERENCE CASES - Compiled by Keith Basterfield



• Nicap's Report on EM effects also brings up a case from Santa Fe, New Mexico during the early November, 1957 flap where a car clock and wristwatch stopped working as a UFO passed over a motor vehicle. In Norway, October, 1956 a UFO also flew in front of motor vehicle and hovered over the road - according to jeweller the wristwatch of the witness was 'magnetized':

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Electromagnetic Effects Associated with Unidentified Flying Objects (PDF File)



• August 27th, 1979, Stephen, Minnesota - Police Officer Val Johnson witnesses a UFO descend on his car causing him lose consciousness- patrol car clock and officer's wristwatch also both lost 14 minutes.



There was a crack in the windshield on the driver's side, that ran from top to bottom, with four apparent impacts. The electric clock was running 14 minutes slow, as was Johnson's wristwatch.



• Pine Bush UFO witness Elaine Crampton talks about her clocks.

See 6:52



"We looked at our clocks and we had three battery running clocks, two in the kitchen and one in the living room and for some strange reason all three clocks were stopped at the same time" Elaine Crampton - UFO Witness
 

karl 12

Noble
• In a case similar to the Socorro incident one year earlier, lavender farmer Maurice Masse experiences a daylight, close range sighting of a small, egg shaped UFO emitting a strange hissing sound - two jumpsuit wearing, big headed occupants also spotted.

The farmer was 'paralysed' by a device held by one of the occupants before they both entered UFO and flew away - farmer also reported to have trouble with different watches refusing to work after the sighting and was 'unable to wear them anymore'.


1st, June, 1965, Valensole, France. See 20:10






• At White Acres farm in Rosedale, Australia another farmer witnesses a UFO (domed disc shaped) with orange and blue lights about ten feet above the ground - the object then briefly hovered over a water tank and landed 50 feet away. Whistling sound, physical trace evidence, missing water and wristwatch malfunction reported.

September 30th, 1980

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The witness experienced an unusual recurring headache for 7 to 8 days. Vomiting and diarrhoea also persisted for the same period of time. For 3 days after the incident, the witness's watch refused to work when he tried to wear it. Before and after this period it worked without any problems.

A Catalogue of Australian Physical Trace Cases compiled by Keith Basterfield & Bill Chalker



• Official Judicial Court case and Police UFO casefile for this one involving close range UFO (and occupant) sighting resulting in another stopped wristwatch - August 31st , 1968, Mendoza, Argentina:


Argentina: The Night a UFO Shook Mendoza Awake Over 50 years ago, the courts of the city of Mendoza (Argentina) engaged in the investigation of a strange claim that became local and national news: the Villegas and Peccinetti Case - two employees of the Mendoza Casino who claimed having been intercepted by a UFO and five aliens in the city, near the Liceo Militar. Judge Jorge Marzari Céspedes was famous for the fact that all unusual events wound up before his bench. "All that you need is to send a flying saucer to jail!" some colleagues had told him, half-jokingly. However, one day, that remark practically came true, and it became a police docket and later a judicial file.. "We were about to check whether the car battery was operating correctly when five completely bald individuals, with heads larger than usual approached us. They wore a kind of coverall, stood 1.40 meters tall, and had very pale skin." -- Statements by Villegas and Peccinetti in the court document. Upon seeing themselves surrounded by these humanoid figures, the Casino cashiers thought to escape through an empty field, but a surprise awaited them. "There was a lenticular object, 5 meters in diameter, hanging in the air. A powerful beam of light was projected from a lower opening, aimed at the ground. It was some 30 meters from us and floated a little over 1 meter from the ground." As part of the investigation, Sheriff Miguel Montoza kept Peccinetti's wristwatch: a Precision with 17 antimagnetic rubies which had stopped cold at 3:42 on 31 August, the exact time of the reported "alien contact".

Full Report



▪ Don't know much more but on January 14th, 2002 apparently a train encountered three strange flying objects near Outpost 41 in Kentucky.

Reports of damage to (and EM effects on) the train and upon arriving at the railroad yard the train crew were met by strange men 'none of them had ever seen before' - they were taken to an office, interrogated for hours and ordered never to speak of the incident.

All trace of train and strange men gone the next day and during the encounter the wristwatch of one of the crew members stopped at 2:47AM and 'still reads the same to this day'.



THE PAINTSVILLE UFO/TRAIN CRASH - JANUARY 14, 2002 - PAINTSVILLE, KY In 2002, a train was hauling coal and freight through Paintsville, Ky., on its way to Shelbiana. At exactly 2:47 a.m., strange hovering lights appeared on the tracks ahead of them and the train’s electronics went haywire. Above the nearby river, at least three other hovering crafts seemed to be scanning the water with searchlights. These UFOs were described as metallic with no windows or visible openings. The train’s diesel engines lost power and, unable to stop quickly enough, it struck the UFO closest to the tracks..

15 Times Aliens Definitely Visited Kentucky




• July 9th, 1965, Santa Maria, Azores - don't know much more about this one either but it sounds very intriguing and there's a relevant follow up newsclipping below.


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Clocks At Airport Stopped When UFO Passes Over July 9. 1965 Santa Maria, Azores A white cylindrical object was seen flying at 33,000 ft.over Santa Maria Island. An airport spokesman said all electromagnetic clocks at the Santa Maria Airport were stopped when the object passed overhead. Attempts to identify object were unsuccessful. (Source: Chris Wyatt; Canberra Times (ACT 1926 - 1995) Tuesday, July 13, 1965, Anderson Herald (Anderson, Indiana) Sunday, July 11, 1965 - Page 6)

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Follow up:

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• January, 6th, 1976, Kentucky - the very bizarre Stanford case:



The women told Black about the abduction and its effects on their bodies. For instance, all three women had lost weight and Louise said her parakeet became upset when she tried to touch it. Her Nova also had lasting electrical problems and her alarm clock stopped working after she touched it.

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karl 12

Noble
Don't know anyone's thoughts on the Hill case but didn't realise claims of stopped wristwatches were involved.


• September 19th, 1961, New Hampshire - Betty and Barney Hill:

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Part Two - See 05:10



]When we entered onto the main highway, we heard a second series of beeping sounds. And we came home, looking for the craft all the way and not seeing it. At home, Barney’s first remark was “It is 5 o’clock, We should have been home by 3 AM at the latest.”This time was from our kitchen clock, for both our watches had stopped running – this puzzled us, that both stopped about the same time.



• Researcher Tim Swartz reports another wristwatch example from Ohio in June, 2001 - also engages in a spot of speculation about spatial changes, altered states of consciousness, unusual silences and potential time distortions.


As soon as the lights flew away,” Deborah said, “the car started running again all by itself. The lights and radio were on just as they were before everything happened.” According to their watches, the strange encounter had lasted more than 20 minutes. However, when they arrived home, Deborah’s husband seemed unconcerned about what they thought was a late arrival. That’s when they discovered that instead of being after 9:00 p.m., as their wristwatches indicated, it was only 8:35 p.m. “It was as if the entire time we spent looking at those lights had never happened,” Angie said. “But it did happen, our watches both showed we had been stuck out there for over 20 minutes, but somehow we gained that time back with a few minutes to spare. Normally we should have been home at around ten to nine, but somehow, despite what had happened, we got there early.”[/size] As Time Goes By - UFOs And Time Distortion




• Professor Swords on the subject quoting from the files of the Tasmanian UFO Investigation Committee with further info on the 1979 Murchison Highway case:

Suddenly the light was just gone, and the car returned to normal function. Her watch now said 9:29pm despite much more time having elapsed --- it must have stopped during this entire experience, and checking her dashboard clock, it had stopped too. As she was finally getting home, she noticed that her fuel tank was now empty, but her normal trip should have left it half full. Messing around with engine function, timepieces, gasoline --- nothing is sacred to these space cowboys. But seriously... what constellation of projected force technologies can account for the variety in these cases?


Also this one from the same area four years later.

Stanley River Road, TAS 1983. The witness was driving to his home along the western Tasmanian highway [somewhat south of the previous story] when his car was lit up by a bright circle of blue-white lights overhead. The witness decided to stop his car to look, but found that he could not influence the car's motion nor speed in any way. Brakes did not work, and even removing the keys from the ignition had no effect. The car just sped on, and he doesn't remember whether he was doing the steering or not.. When the "driver" finally reached his turn-off, the object immediately sped away, being seen doing so by his wife. With the object gone, the car just stopped. He put the keys back in, and it started right up.He calculated his trip time. His watch indicated that the trip had taken 16 minutes. He should have taken 6 or 7 of those to get to the point where his car was illuminated and he lost control [8 kilometers]. But that meant that the final 25 winding hilly kilometers had been traversed in only 9 or 10 minutes, a physical impossibility in his vehicle. Did his watch stop during the experience and just start back up later? Even if so, why? How does one do that?

UFOs and Force: Plowing Ahead?
 

August

Metanoia
Don't know anyone's thoughts on the Hill case but didn't realise claims of stopped wristwatches were involved.


• September 19th, 1961, New Hampshire - Betty and Barney Hill:

Part One:



Part Two - See 05:10







• Researcher Tim Swartz reports another wristwatch example from Ohio in June, 2001 - also engages in a spot of speculation about spatial changes, altered states of consciousness, unusual silences and potential time distortions.







• Professor Swords on the subject quoting from the files of the Tasmanian UFO Investigation Committee with further info on the 1979 Murchison Highway case:




Also this one from the same area four years later.


Thanks for posting this. :)
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
When I was a young lad, my father brought me a very nice wrist watch from a business trip. I was very proud of it since nobody else in the whole classroom had such an elaborate watch, with rotating dial, stop watch, two knowbs ets.

Anyhow. I heard that magnets can stop wristwatches. And bug was set in my mind, I wanted to try, but didn't want to ruin such a nice watch.

To cut a long story short, on the end I tried and brought a magnet close to the wristwatch. And it was true. Magnets stop wristwatches. Not to mention that wristwatches don't ever restart themselves after that.

So, the moral of the story is, there is strong magnetic field around the UFOs. I know because I've checked, even without seening an UFO.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
• Pine Bush UFO witness Elaine Crampton talks about her clocks.

You want to go check it out? Jump in my truck, we'll be there in half an hour. I have wanted to go to the annual UFO Festival for the past several years but haven't made it yet (and nobody will this year).

60% of the people in Pine Bush saw a UFO and 60% of the people who live in Gettysburg have seen a ghost.

I've seen those lights (even recently) and have a pretty good idea what they are looking at. Stewart ANG base and whatever they call SWF airport now is very busy. They occupy different parts of a an area created around repurposed Cold War era runways. Not unusual to see C17 heavy transports or their predecessors just hanging up there improbably. Sometimes you see them at night, sometimes with freaky landing lights and stuff on. They can catch you off guard and I can tell you that when the C5s first showed up they scared the bejeezuz out of a lot of people.
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Stewart International Airport - Wikipedia

Thumbs-up at Stewart Air Base for new C-17 transport planes

105th Airlift Wing - Wikipedia

Interesting time line there---- In May 1983, the unit relocated to Stewart International Airport. It was re-designated the 105th Military Airlift Group on 1 May 1984 and later in July 1985 became the first Air National Guard unit in the nation to fly the C-5A Galaxy aircraft
 

August

Metanoia
This is a compilation of excepts from the complete hypnosis sessions done by Dr. Benjamin Simon in 1964

 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Yeah, I am dying to hear about some lost time etc., because that would count as a general relativistic effect, supporting the reasonably acceptable theory that UFOs alter the gravitational field. Basically, what would happen, watch would survive, it will continue working accurately, but it will show some missing or gained time immediately after the incident. This missing or gained time would be caused by a stronger or weaker gravitational field that UFO would create. That's what I am really looking for. If you know of any such UFO cases please let me know. So far, I only found one case :-(.

But to no avail, because both kinds of watches are susceptible to strong static or alternating magnetic fields. Mechanical wristwatches would be ruined by both static and alternating magnetic fields if they have any ferromagnetic steel gears because magnetized gears would become permanently 'sticky' as magnetization make them to strongly couple to other internal steel gears. Since designed forces on watch gears are fairly weak, the sudden appearance of unaccounted new magnetic 'stickiness' would ruin the watch.

Electrical watches and wristwatches, I guess, wouldn't be affected much by a static magnetic field. A static magnetic field would cause the Hall effect, which would be just pushing current in the wires to one side. That would change neither currents nor voltages inside the watch circuit very much, so the watch would be fine. But indications from other UFO cases don't suggest that UFOs produce any static magnetic fields, only alternating.

Now, the alternating magnetic field is a different beast. It would generate its own currents in any electrical circuit by Faraday's law and a strong field would create strong induced currents. Every consumer electronic device running on batteries is finely tunned to use a minimum of energy for a maximum battery life. Suddenly this alternating magnetic field comes in and creates big currents for which a delicate electronic circuit is not prepared at all. Most likely many internal components will simply be burned out by these externally induced currents and the device would break down and really be difficult to repair.

Similar faith would await other instruments that depend on electricity. I don't really know how a milometer works, but if it is based on coils of wire picking up rotation of, say, small magnets than milometer would be temporarily desabled as well.
 
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karl 12

Noble
Thanks for the replies and certainly looks like electromagnetism plays a role somehow - even with non electric wristwatches.

Did see that there"s quite a number of folks out there who feel their own electromagnetic field is responsible for interference with wristwatches.. although scientists do say that the human field shouldn't be strong enough.

Slate readers weigh in with their own stories of personal magnetism.

When it comes to UFOs then animal reaction may also have something to do with electromagnetism and Linda Zimmerman goes into more details in this new vid.




To set my UFO detector off you would have to detonate a Nuclear device right over the top of it.

There's a 100% money back guarantee with this one mate. :)

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August

Metanoia
Thanks for the replies and certainly looks like electromagnetism plays a role somehow - even with non electric wristwatches.

Did see that there"s quite a number of folks out there who feel their own electromagnetic field is responsible for interference with wristwatches.. although scientists do say that the human field shouldn't be strong enough.

Slate readers weigh in with their own stories of personal magnetism.

When it comes to UFOs then animal reaction may also have something to do with electromagnetism and Linda Zimmerman goes into more details in this new vid.






There's a 100% money back guarantee with this one mate. :)

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Yeah I found mine at a garage sale no way to test if it works you wouldn't have a spare nuke would you ?
 

karl 12

Noble
Yeah, I am dying to hear about some lost time etc., because that would count as a general relativistic effect, supporting the reasonably acceptable theory that UFOs alter the gravitational field. Basically, what would happen, watch would survive, it will continue working accurately, but it will show some missing or gained time immediately after the incident. This missing or gained time would be caused by a stronger or weaker gravitational field that UFO would create. That's what I am really looking for. If you know of any such UFO cases please let me know. So far, I only found one case :-(.
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Hi mate, he died really young and I haven't read it (and it's not easy to get hold of) but yout might find what you're looking for in Marc Davenport's book.

See 2:30



My hypothesis is that these people who operate these ships - their technology is so advanced that actually figured out a way to artificially warp space-time, the way a black hole does naturally.

And, if that's true it could mean that they could be coming here not only from other planets but from other star systems, other galaxies, other dimensions that coexist with ours, parallel universes, even our own future or our own past.

We have the occupants of these craft are continually telling people - they ask them questions like what time is it, what is time, what is your time, what is age, what is a year and they say 'You are caught in time and we're not - our time is different from yours'.

Time is distorted in the vicinity of these craft and inside these craft - a lot of time people's watches will stop, we have people who say that their voices are distorted when they're near these craft like when they breathe helium or something. So we have all sorts of indications that these things are in some kind of a field that warps space and time.

Cheers
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Hi mate, he died really young and I haven't read it (and it's not easy to get hold of) but yout might find what you're looking for in Marc Davenport's book.

See 2:30



Cheers


Thanks for a very good dig. I found Marc Davenport's book and already bought it :).

Here are two posts: first and second, about some UFO cases where relativistic space-time bending was observed. In General Relativity UFOs are warp drives, and a warp drive is a device that bends space-time in its immediate vicinity, so that's why if one shines a torch at UFO he'll see the bending of light beam. But these cases are extremely rare.

Ignore @Thomas R. Morrison 's comment post because he says that light was bent by temperature difference in the air, like when one sees mirage on the motorway on a hot summer day. Qualitatively that sounds good, but quantitatively it's just a joke because air is not dense enough to bend light beam 90 degrees as witness reported. Difference in air temperature can only bend light 2-3 degrees, at the best. It's a lame lazy skeptic's argument, akin to "swamp gas" :).

Time & Space are one thing in General Relativity and in GR space-time can be "bent" in order to travel faster than light (FtL), but some rules must be followed. That's how UFOs do it. Admittedly, I am no expert and you should check posts by @Thomas R. Morrison and @waitedavid137 who are far more knowledgeable on the subject of GR and warp drives. When aliens say that they are in different time, its because time is only local, approximatelly tied to the star to which your planet is tied. Although, all stars in universe are on the same clock that started ticking at a moment of Big Bang. Different stars are literarly in a different times, because it takes many years for signals to travel between stars. So, when UFO from distant star arrives to Earth he keeps the time from the star from which it departed. But, it's very unikely aliens come from our future. According to GR they simply come from different star "time zones", which anyway have the same total time that passed from Big Bang.
 
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nivek

As Above So Below
When aliens say that they are in different time, its because time is only local, approximatelly tied to the star to which your planet is tied. Although, all stars in universe are on the same clock that started ticking at a moment of Big Bang. Different stars are literarly in a different times, because it takes many years for signals to travel between stars.

In other words, time is relative...:)

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
In other words, time is relative...:)
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;-)

I'm just thinking aloud about this.

Yes, time is relative, but for all the stars the Big Bang time is the same down to a nano-nano-nano-second. Only about black holes time runs slower, so Big Bang time for black holes would be in the past. That would mean, that relative to the black holes, stars are in the future and black holes are in stars' past.

On the UFO/wrap drive, time is the same as the time on its parent star.

All together, nobody is in the future relative to Big Bang time, because there is no naturally occuring negative space-time curvature in the universe. Except, perheps the giant inter-galactical voids are slightly less positively curved than galixies, but the difference would be tiny.

I guess @Thomas R. Morrison would love to elaborate on this.
 

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
But to no avail, because both kinds of watches are susceptible to strong static or alternating magnetic fields. Mechanical wristwatches would be ruined by both static and alternating magnetic fields if they have any ferromagnetic steel gears because magnetized gears would become permanently 'sticky' as magnetization make them to strongly couple to other internal steel gears. Since designed forces on watch gears are fairly weak, the sudden appearance of unaccounted new magnetic 'stickiness' would ruin the watch.

Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930), Friday 9 September 1892, page 3

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930), Friday 9 September 1892, page 3

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@Skepticide123 ... Man, congrats on the choice of the name, I love it.

Re: the article clip. You are spot on. In the late fall of the year 1882 there was a big geomagnetic storm, as Wikipedia reports :).

"The magnetic storm that caused the brilliant auroral display of November 1882 was reported in The New York Times and other newspapers as having an effect on telegraph systems, which were rendered useless in some cases. The Savannah Morning News reported that "the switchboard at the Chicago Western Union office was set on fire several times, and much damage to equipment was done. From Milwaukee, the 'volunteer electric current' was at one time strong enough to light up an electric lamp".[2] Measurements taken in the United Kingdom, where the telegraph also was affected, indicated that a telluric current five times stronger than normal was present."

Nowadays, these calamities are called Carrington events. Basically our Sun spits out mega-tons of hot plasma particles that hit the Earth and cause electromagnetic storms. And magnetism is bad for clocks. But when the next one happens to our generation, all our personal computers will be wiped out.

But I didn't know that solar storms can be so strong to break large Victorian mechanical clocks. That's quite surprising.
 

karl 12

Noble
Thanks for a very good dig. I found Marc Davenport's book and already bought it

Here are two posts: first and second, about some UFO cases where relativistic space-time bending was observed


Nice one mate and thanks for posting those - never heard of the one from the China sea before - very bizarre.


The French case is covered in this vid and also sounds extremely strange.





.that's why if one shines a torch at UFO he'll see the bending of light beam. But these cases are extremely rare.


Indeed they are mate and there are two possible candidates I've heard of (will ask around).


See 7:00



UFO Conjectures: Solid light and the Burkes Flat UFO of 1966


And


See 5:05



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1949, Norwood, Ohio Searchlight UFO Incident, UFO Casebook Files

Cheers.



Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930), Friday 9 September 1892, page 3


Great addition there Skepticide, many thanks for sharing it.

When it comes to Carrington events looks like we just barely missed one (by one week) back in July, 2012.

"I have come away from our recent studies more convinced than ever that Earth and its inhabitants were incredibly fortunate that the 2012 eruption happened when it did," says Baker. "If the eruption had occurred only one week earlier, Earth would have been in the line of fire.

Near Miss: The Solar Superstorm of July 2012 | Science Mission Directorate


Cheers.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Nice one mate and thanks for posting those - never heard of the one from the China sea before - very bizarre.

The French case is covered in this vid and also sounds extremely strange.



Indeed they are mate and there are two possible candidates I've heard of (will ask around).


See 7:00



UFO Conjectures: Solid light and the Burkes Flat UFO of 1966


And


See 5:05



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1949, Norwood, Ohio Searchlight UFO Incident, UFO Casebook Files

Cheers.






Great addition there Skepticide, many thanks for sharing it.

When it comes to Carrington events looks like we just barely missed one (by one week) back in July, 2012.




Cheers.


Thanks for the info.

I've already dug up 3 external light bending cases: Norwood, Burkes Flats, and Taize. But it would always be nice to find even more of them :). They are all really fascinating because they unambiguously prove that UFOs are warp drives. I was talking with @waitedavid137 who is a member of AlienExpanse forum and has a PhD in physics and is an expert on General Relativity and he confirmed to me that light would bend near the warp drive craft. So this makes very certain that UFOs are engineered warp drives. The next question is HOW :).

What is important in the UFO <> warp drive relationship is that we know what warp drives are because Einstein's general relativity tells us. This relationship makes UFOs more acceptable to our modern physics knowledge. And significant thing that Einstein's GR tells us about warp drives is that it can only take a few hours to cross distancies between the stars, not millenia. That notion makes UFOs estremely plausible.

If we were able to master metric engineering (spacetime bending, warp drives etc.) to the same level to which we mastered electricity we would be doing what aliens are doing
 
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