Third Eye Sight: Remote Viewing

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Sawing through that CRV manual. After it finally occurred to me to import it into Kindle it gave me something to do when I am inevitably hit by insomnia in the middle of the night. To the piker like me what I'm reading sounds an awful lot like what Edgar Cayce was talking about, an Akashic Record or what have you, and an awful lot like what Dr.Kirby Surprise goes on about regarding synchronicities and accessing a collective unconscious.

I thought I would need to glean it's mysteries before we do this but it isn't really a training manual, it seems more a description of one and definitely something out of our league at the moment.

Freaky, man. The nature and underpinnings of the Fabric of the Universe is way too heavy for me as I slurp my coffee.
I hadn't realized that there are 6 stages to CRV and I suppose they are discrete for a reason. @nivek sounds like you had what they could have considered decent success for the first stage or two.

Rather than drive around let's simplify this. Pick something; an object, an image, something unlikely to be guessed that we can do from a convenient location. For example, me concentrating on a car part, a tool, a gun - noooooope. In fact I have already made a selection that will not be accidentally guessed, period.

So we pick a time, let the others know we're there, and concentrate on whatever our choice is for some period of time. How long can you maintain that? I'd probably just need a few minutes of quiet time in advance to prepare and say 10-15 minutes of staring at the goat or what have you. We call a discrete stop time and commit our impressions. Maybe one transmitter and two receivers at a time?
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
spoiler alert, don't tell us what you will focus on. now you need to change group of objects

No spoilers. I have something in mind that has never been mentioned here because I wasn't aware of it's existence until this morning. You gotta pick something I'd say that's a good one.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
For those who are truly interested in the history of Remote Viewing, you should look up Pat Price. By most accounts he was the most accurate and spectacular government remote viewer. He also died suspiciously. Even some who questioned the RV programs acknowledged that Price had a special gift for seeing.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Don't think I'm specifically interested in CRV as it's been taught, we sort of backed into this. Something similar, very simplistic to try. Why not? Not a lot of overhead involved
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Picking up accurate impressions about people you haven't met from a distance. Always an interesting topic.

George Anderson is a famous psychic. I read We Don't Die years ago and liked it. He was a telephone operator and said he was picking up impressions from callers. I met him and as I've described here he was a huge disappointment in person. A bit like everything else, right? Military CRV sounds like the hard kernel of truth (it may or may not be) surrounded by a lot of nonsense, usually involving money.

Anybody aware of a current academic research along these lines?

Telephone operators, remember those? And phone books. And actual phones - who the hell uses corded phones any more?
 
For those who are truly interested in the history of Remote Viewing, you should look up Pat Price. By most accounts he was the most accurate and spectacular government remote viewer. He also died suspiciously. Even some who questioned the RV programs acknowledged that Price had a special gift for seeing.
Russell Targ, and I think Ingo Swann, shared some mind-boggling instances on the Art Bell show Coast to Coast AM, when Pat Price remote viewed specific information, such as in the Patty Hearst kidnapping case: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000200130013-4.pdf

Hearing their first-hand accounts of witnessing former police officer Pat Price remote view various targets over years engaged with the Stargate Project, it sounds like Price could literally peer across vast distances and see detailed images in his mind that were subsequently confirmed as fact by government intelligence services and police investigations.
Stargate Project - Wikipedia
 

Standingstones

Celestial
Picking up accurate impressions about people you haven't met from a distance. Always an interesting topic.

George Anderson is a famous psychic. I read We Don't Die years ago and liked it. He was a telephone operator and said he was picking up impressions from callers. I met him and as I've described here he was a huge disappointment in person. A bit like everything else, right? Military CRV sounds like the hard kernel of truth (it may or may not be) surrounded by a lot of nonsense, usually involving money.

Anybody aware of a current academic research along these lines?

Telephone operators, remember those? And phone books. And actual phones - who the hell uses corded phones any more?
I did have a telephone technician tell me many moons ago that he had to tell some old timer rural customers that they had to upgrade from a rotary dial phone. Supposedly they pissed and moaned about it. Sometimes humans have to be dragged into using real world technology.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
No spoilers. I have something in mind that has never been mentioned here because I wasn't aware of it's existence until this morning. You gotta pick something I'd say that's a good one.

Where's the location of the object you have in mind?...Would that be a spolier?...

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nivek

As Above So Below
I did have a telephone technician tell me many moons ago that he had to tell some old timer rural customers that they had to upgrade from a rotary dial phone. Supposedly they pissed and moaned about it. Sometimes humans have to be dragged into using real world technology.

You know I live in a very rural area, well I have neighbors who never owned a computer nor a cellular phone ever and have no interest in them, of course they are older folks...

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wwkirk

Divine
I did have a telephone technician tell me many moons ago that he had to tell some old timer rural customers that they had to upgrade from a rotary dial phone. Supposedly they pissed and moaned about it. Sometimes humans have to be dragged into using real world technology.
Rotary dial phones are no longer compatible with today's telecommunications networks?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Rotary dial phones are no longer compatible with today's telecommunications networks?

Apparently they can still be used...

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Best Rotary Phones in 2020

Does an old rotary phone still work in today's technology?

Depends on your telecom provider.

There’s some technical background. When you pick up the phone and hear a dial tone, your phone line is connected to a device called a “digit receiver.” The digit receiver accepts numbers from the phone. Then, when it receives enough digits in the correct order, it disconnects and passes the numbers to the switching system that routes the call.

Rotary phones send digits to the digit receiver in the form of pulses—makes and breaks of the phone line, spaced a certain time apart.

Touch-Tone phones send the digits as sounds. Two different sounds at two different frequencies; each digit has a specific combination of frequencies.

Now, digit receivers are (or at least, were) very expensive pieces of hardware. And if you’ve ever used a rotary phone, you know it takes longer to dial one than to dial a Touch-Tone phone. The pulses are spaced a certain length of time apart. Dialing a 9 or a 0 takes a couple seconds.

The longer it takes, on average, to dial a number, the more digit receivers your phone company needs to have to handle a given volume of calls. And like I said, digit receivers are expensive.

The telephone company was eager to dump support for rotary a long time ago, to save money. No rotary means fewer digit receivers, and the digit receivers don’t need to be able to detect numbers both by pulse and tone[1].

But in the US at least, the phone industry used to be regulated. To maintain backward compatibility with existing phones, telecom operators were required by law to continue supporting rotary dialing.

The law no longer requires telcos to support pulse dialing, though I do not know when that changed. Today, some local exchanges still support pulse dialing and some dont. It all depends on what equipment they have.

[1] Which, now that I think about it, raises an interesting question to me. I don’t know how the digit receiver internally hands off parsing of rotary vs. tone digits. I wonder what would happen if you started dialing a phone number on a rotary phone, then finished with tone dialing?

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Standingstones

Celestial
In the olden days, the telephone company owned your hand set. You were paying a rental fee each month. Thankfully times have progressed. The phone technicians I spoke to disliked going to a home where a rotary phone was used. Especially if the handset finally crapped out. More than likely you had to convince the customer to upgrade to a push button phone, a princess phone or some similar phone of that technology period.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
In the olden days, the telephone company owned your hand set. You were paying a rental fee each month. Thankfully times have progressed. The phone technicians I spoke to disliked going to a home where a rotary phone was used. Especially if the handset finally crapped out. More than likely you had to convince the customer to upgrade to a push button phone, a princess phone or some similar phone of that technology period.
About 5 years ago Verizon announced customers in my neighborhood would have to switch to digital equipment to use their land lines. I'm assuming digital rotary phones do not exist.

In all fairness, however, in the days before technology progressed to this point technologically it was not possible for telemarketers to robotically bombard us with endless robocalls. My phone gets so inundated I rarely bother to answer it unless I'm expecting a call.
 

spacecase0

earth human
Don't think I'm specifically interested in CRV as it's been taught, we sort of backed into this. Something similar, very simplistic to try. Why not? Not a lot of overhead involved
there is lots of fun things to play with in this area,
you need at least 2 people for regular CRV to work,
I have never have that, so I look for other ways to get better at seeing things.
this sort of thing just takes a bit of time...
remember that you usually end up where your attention is at.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
About 5 years ago Verizon announced customers in my neighborhood would have to switch to digital equipment to use their land lines. I'm assuming digital rotary phones do not exist.

In all fairness, however, in the days before technology progressed to this point technologically it was not possible for telemarketers to robotically bombard us with endless robocalls. My phone gets so inundated I rarely bother to answer it unless I'm expecting a call.

OK. The crusty old phone guy made a new thread for this stuff :)

hey, what ever happened to ..... ?
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
The CRV manual is a trip. I'm sawing my way through the definitions and am a bit vague on some things but generally 'get' what they're talking about. Step 1 is to perceive Signal from - no kidding - The Matrix. It also talks about how the logical, well ordered part of our consciousness can inhibit interpretation. Well, OK so far. Seems to speak to my personality type and I think maybe Dejan's, from what he's said.

I'm thinking a decent start would be for me to go to a quiet place, sit there a few minutes to settle in. We could confirm via text that we're in place and that a chosen time I'd focus on my very distinctive target.

I'd suggest we do that a few times before sharing any results at all.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Lots of talk, but no action. I think we are missing on some leadership here ... Lets choose somebody who'll lead and organize experiments.

In order to keep the trend with currently popular fashion, lets do it in the style of American elections. We make a survey, in which everybody votes for me, but then the forum owner secretly changes results (simulating Luminati & Soros conspiracy), so that @nivek wins.

What do you say?
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Lots of talk, but no action. I think we are missing on some leadership here ... Lets choose somebody who'll lead and organize experiments.

In order to keep the trend with currently popular fashion, lets do it in the style of American elections. We make a survey, in which everybody votes for me, but then the forum owner secretly changes results (simulating Luminati & Soros conspiracy), so that @nivek wins.

What do you say?

I'm game and have time this week or next.

I propose one sender and any number of receivers. At an agreed upon time the sender concentrates on whatever it is and the rest write down their impressions. Limit it to maybe 10 minutes a pop. Nobody says crap until at least we've all had a turn.

If we decide to pursue this I'd suggest a placebo. Maybe for one of the sessions the sender isn't there at all

** I'd like to get some of the beginner's luck the CRV manual mentioend
 
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