Neruda Interviews

Toroid

Founding Member
I'm lost.
Running anagrams is a way I extract hidden information and are not in the interviews. If the story of the Annunaki is true then Anu/An would be imbued in names and places throughout history and in all written languages. Neruda said they originally came here when the planet was primarily water to mine gold near the core. The current accepted age of earth is 4.5 billion year old. He claims we're in an artificial reality created by the Annunaki. The plan was for Anu to return on a cloud. With that I looked for a similiar painting and found the one in a previous post.
Anu - Wikipedia
 
Running anagrams is a way I extract hidden information and are not in the interviews. If the story of the Annunaki is true then Anu/An would be imbued in names and places throughout history and in all written languages. Neruda said they originally came here when the planet was primarily water to mine gold near the core. The current accepted age of earth is 4.5 billion year old. He claims we're in an artificial reality created by the Annunaki. The plan was for Anu to return on a cloud. With that I looked for a similiar painting and found the one in a previous post.
Anu - Wikipedia
So if we are artificial can we ever develop ourselves to become like the ones that create this artificial reality ?
Keep up with great post Toroid.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Our DNA is upgradable and the Central Race who would appear godlike to us have fully activated DNA. Neruda stated we are them in the future. We're also the Animus in a potential future if we take a transhumanism path/Ptah. From another source I heard the reptilians have fixed DNA that doesn't evolve and they believe they're perfection. It's advantageous for certain alien races to suppress our development.

Adam & Eve would have been the first terrestrial batch of Human 2.0. The garden of Eden would have been a reseeding project after the flood. The material said all the Human 1.0's were lost in the flood, but a few were saved by Marduk. Jamisson referred to him as a being known as Marduk. In the flowchart he's the son of Enki/Nike and Anu's grandson.

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Toroid

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Here's a coin dated 1656 with an alien and a UFO. They're are referred to as hobo coins and made with a softer metal. It says OPPORTVNVS ADEST or OPPORTUNUS ADEST. Google translate defines it as 'conveniently here'. The article's definition is 'it is here in due time.' It anagrams to Anu Opposed Trust or Trust Opposed Anu or Opposed Anu Trust.
A Set of Ancient Egyptian Coins Could be Proof that an Alien Race Once Visited Earth
The words carved on the back of one of the coins are "OPPORTUNUS Adest". This is Latin for ‘it is here in due time.’
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Toroid

Founding Member
In the 'Necronomicon: The Anunnaki Bible' pocket edition Anu is referred to as the bull of heaven. The charging bull in New York was put there after the 1987 stock market crash. Perhaps it was meant as a tribute to Anu in return for financial stability. In the series Supernatural the angel Castiel said God left heaven. Was that a duplicate consciousness of Anu who became bored or ascended?
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Charging Bull - Wikipedia

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Toroid

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In the 'Necronomicon: The Anunnaki Bible' pocket edition Anu is referred to as the bull of heaven. The charging bull in New York was put there after the 1987 stock market crash. Perhaps it was meant as a tribute to Anu in return for financial stability. In the series Supernatural the angel Castiel said God left heaven. Was that a duplicate consciousness of Anu who became bored or ascended?
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Charging Bull - Wikipedia

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Also in the book Adam aka the human 2.0 prototype was told by Enki/Nike to consume wheat that was forbidden prior and it made him bloat. The archangel Gabriel came down and fixed that problem. Human 1.0 may have been an Annunaki/Sirian/Serpent creation, but 2.0 probably came from the original template for our species held by the Central Race. That template could be billions of years old.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
I recall that Drunvalo Melchizedek wrote in The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life Vol. 1 or 2 that the pyramids on the Giza plateau were originally red, white & black because those were the primary architectural colors of Atlantis. I can't locate that in my notes for some reason. Those colors are in the Bavarian coat of arms and in the logos of numerous corporations. In the last time Kent Dunn was on the Quantum Shift show he said a red Anunnaki scout ship was spotted on earth. Maybe those were their preferred colors.

In David Wilcock's new book Awakening in the Dream he quoted one of Edgar Cayce's psychic readings that the pyramids were built between 10,490 - 10,390 BC.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Anu appears in legal terms that start with Animus which are the villains in the interviews.
List of Latin legal terms - Wikipedia

Internet Anagram Server / I, Rearrangement Servant : anagrams, wordplay, solve, crossword, transmogrify, pangram, shuffle, fun
jus naturale anagrams to Anu real just. The definition is laws common to all people, that the average person would find reasonable, regardless of their nationality.

locus standi anagrams to Anu Lost Disc and is defined as the right of a party to appear and be heard before a court.

onus probandi anagrams to Anu Binds Poor and is defined as burden of proof.



 

JahaRa

Noble
I finished rereading the five Neruda interviews. My motivation was what I recall about the Annunaki & Sirians cloning the core of our planet and installing them in other worlds. Something similar was discussed in Radu Cinamar's book "Inside the Earth: The Second Tunnel". Dr. Xien told Radu the core of our planet is a conscious black hole. It's rotation pulls water and other matter out of the subtle realm. This explains a black hole's accretion disk and how they can grow into supermassive objects. Science currently can't explain how they become so massive claiming there's not enough time in the age of the universe to account for their size. The Wingmakers material states our planet was originally all water.

In the interviews Dr. Neruda said the Central Race reside in eighteen billion year old galaxies near the central part of the universe. There wasn't a clear distinction between the Wingmakers and the Central Race other than saying the Wingmakers are the emissaries of the Central Race. This could imply they're two different races. According to the material we are the Central Race in the future. We're also the Animus in a potential future. They're a synthetic race created by Lucifer that we may become if we stay on a path of transhumanism. The DNA of the Central Race is fully activated. They created Lucifer and the angels for the purpose of being intermediaries between soul carriers and them.

https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Complete-Neruda-Interviews-1-5.pdf

Wow, this is the wayback machine for me. I started reading the wingmaker materials in 2001 while the site was still under construction. There was a forum on that site for a few years, I think until 2005. It is really intersting material but as time went on people who studied Blavatsky and the Urantia book pointed out that most of the material was a composite or taken from those two sources. The story started out very different (started in 1998 I believe) than it is now. Even the part about those chambers being Chaco Canyon (which is ridiculous) was not used, it was just some random cave in New Mexico. I have a lot of the music cds and the first one is really my favorite, it has the poetry and hidden pages on it. When they started using Charlotte Marie's work is when I quit buying their Cds.

As for the Urantia book, I have read some of it and parts are quite distrubing.

I have to get back to work so I will visit this thread later.
 

JahaRa

Noble
Yes, I have a copy of it. It's over 2,000 pages with very small print. I've only skimmed through it. The designation for earth is 606 which appeared in the movie Stargate. That's supposedly the last three numbers in earth's stargate address. The idea for the IP address came from the stargate addresses according to Wilcock.
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I am pretty sure that DARPA is responsible for the IP address configuration. What stargate was Wilcock talking about?
 

JahaRa

Noble
In 1956 Neruda’s father discovered a damaged spacecraft in the jungles of Bolivia during a hunting trip. It was a triangular craft about seventy meters. It had 26 crew who were all dead. It turned out to be a Zeta/Gray ship had crashed during an electrical storm. His father was an electronics dealer, mostly for the Bolivian military. He wanted to sell the craft and DOD got involved. They salvaged it in three days. He removed and hid some of the components in the ship that had to do with navigation. He was offered US citizenship and a position in the Special Projects Laboratory which was later folded into the ACIO. His son Jamisson Neruda was four years old at the time. They were from Sorata, Bolivia at the east end of Lake Titicaca. This seems like a staged event to infiltrate the ACIO/SPL. A nonhuman race under that area of Bolivia probably had forknowledge of the Ancient Arrow site discovery and contrieved an event string to get the father and son team inside.

Do you think this story is about real people?
 

JahaRa

Noble
I just went to the wingmakers website. It has grown and changed a lot. The story is more sophisticated and complicated.

Here is a page you might be interested in @Toroid Questions and answers from Mark Hempel, who created this whole thing. He used to be a marketer and managed a music website, I can't remember the name of it. Then he hooked up with the guy who wrote the original story and helped him make his website more appealing and also helped flesh out the story and make it more interesting. I can't find the original page from 1998 any more.

WingMakers: James, Mark Hempel

I don't think any of this is any more real than the Urantia book, the Stargate television show or any other story that someone claims to be the way it is. There is too much wishful thinking and sometimes fear that perpetuate this kind of thing. We have to have a bad guy like the Animus, which is us, and a good guy like the Wingmakers, which is also us.
 
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Toroid

Founding Member
I am pretty sure that DARPA is responsible for the IP address configuration. What stargate was Wilcock talking about?
He was referring to Earth's stargate address. According to him they used the same or similar configuration as SG addresses.

According to one of David Wilcock’s insiders the Asgard are real and were depicted in the TV series Stargate SG-1. The last three digits in their stargate address is 001, Earth is 606, Mars 605 & I presume Venus is 607.

This is an example of an IP address from Wikipedia 239.255.255.255.

Do you think this story is about real people?
I believe facets of the story are true & parts of it were contrived myth to generate desired outcomes. The ACIO finding evidence of God and Light Encoded Reality Matrix or L.E.R.M. technology adds credence the universe is holographic software. What really struck me was the Animus (race created by Lucifer) sending a probe to Earth 300 million years ago. You get an idea of the vast amounts of time that weave into these sagas.

The Ancient Arrow site seems to be part of a universal logic. A time capsule created by the Wingmakers/Central Race/First born of First Source is possibly a byproduct of the ACIO/Labyrinth Group remote viewer who travel to their location with her consciousness and they followed her back to Earth. After that they probably viewed the history of our planet then decided to travel back in time and create the seven sites. The Bucegi discovered is a similar time capsule.
 

JahaRa

Noble
He was referring to Earth's stargate address. According to him they used the same or similar configuration as SG addresses.

According to one of David Wilcock’s insiders the Asgard are real and were depicted in the TV series Stargate SG-1. The last three digits in their stargate address is 001, Earth is 606, Mars 605 & I presume Venus is 607.

This is an example of an IP address from Wikipedia 239.255.255.255.


I believe facets of the story are true & parts of it were contrived myth to generate desired outcomes. The ACIO finding evidence of God and Light Encoded Reality Matrix or L.E.R.M. technology adds credence the universe is holographic software. What really struck me was the Animus (race created by Lucifer) sending a probe to Earth 300 million years ago. You get an idea of the vast amounts of time that weave into these sagas.

The Ancient Arrow site seems to be part of a universal logic. A time capsule created by the Wingmakers/Central Race/First born of First Source is possibly a byproduct of the ACIO/Labyrinth Group remote viewer who travel to their location with her consciousness and they followed her back to Earth. After that they probably viewed the history of our planet then decided to travel back in time and create the seven sites. The Bucegi discovered is a similar time capsule.

In other words, yes, you think the story is about real people. Thanks for answering. The fact that there is a "Lucifer" race in the story and a manipulative, powerful group (ACIO/Labrynth Group) makes me think the people who wrote it wanted to get the Blavatsky and Urantia philosophies and stories out into the public in some palatable way that would become very popular. They would make lots of money and spread their philosphy at the same time and it would never qualify as a cult because it would all be online and any who met to "study" the material would have nothing to do with them. I am extremely cynical (have been since I was a kid). I see value in some of the philosophy but the art and music is hack, fun and that is all. The poetry is nice, I don't like poetry usually, but I do like some of the poetry. If there was a way to resurrect their forum I think you would find a lot of the posts interesting and enlightening.

P.S. I am a computer programmer (old school) so you don't have to tell me anything about IP addresses. And if I remember correctly those "addresses" came from Urantia.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Here's the 606 number appearing in The Urantia Book & there's one for 607. In the Stargate movie the bomb showed 606 on the countdown timer while it was sitting in front of the gate which I feel wasn't a coincidence.

Paper 53 - The Lucifer Rebellion

53:1:1 (601.3) And Lucifer reigned “upon the holy mountain of God,” the administrative mount of Jerusem, for he was the chief executive of a great system of 607 inhabited worlds.

Paper 15 - The Seven Superuniverses

15:14:5 (182.4) Your world is called Urantia, and it is number 606 in the planetary group, or system, of Satania.


Paper 31 - The Corps of the Finality
31:10:22
(354.8) These thirty-one papers depicting the nature of Deity, the reality of Paradise, the organization and working of the central and superuniverses, the personalities of the grand universe, and the high destiny of evolutionary mortals, were sponsored, formulated, and put into English by a high commission consisting of twenty-four Orvonton administrators acting in accordance with a mandate issued by the Ancients of Days of Uversa directing that we should do this on Urantia, 606 of Satania, in Norlatiadek of Nebadon, in the year A.D. 1934.


Paper 43 - The Constellations
43:0:1
(485.1) URANTIA is commonly referred to as 606 of Satania in Norlatiadek of Nebadon, meaning the six hundred sixth inhabited world in the local system of Satania, situated in the constellation of Norlatiadek, one of the one hundred constellations of the local universe of Nebadon.


Paper 49 - The Inhabited Worlds
49:0:3
(559.3) Thus was Urantia given the number 606 of Satania, meaning the 606th world in this local system on which the long evolutionary life process culminated in the appearance of human beings.


Paper 58 - Life Establishment on Urantia
58:1:1
(664.2) 600,000,000 years ago the commission of Life Carriers sent out from Jerusem arrived on Urantia and began the study of physical conditions preparatory to launching life on world number 606 of the Satania system.


Paper 62 - The Dawn Races of Early Man
62:7:7
(710.6) Biologic evolution had once again achieved the human levels of will dignity; man had arrived on planet 606 of Satania.


Paper 63 - The First Human Family
63:0:2
(711.2) “Man-mind has appeared on 606 of Satania, and these parents of the new race shall be called Andon and Fonta.


Paper 74 - Adam and Eve
74:1:5
(829.1) The children spent some time together at the family rendezvous rejoicing that their parents were soon to become the visible heads, in reality the sole rulers, of planet 606 in the system of Satania.


Paper 74 - Adam and Eve
74:2:8
(830.3) Then was heard the archangels’ proclamation, and the broadcast voice of Gabriel decreed the second judgment roll call of Urantia and the resurrection of the sleeping survivors of the second dispensation of grace and mercy on 606 of Satania.


Paper 93 - Machiventa Melchizedek
93:1:2
(1014.4) This plea was dismissed with the mandate that “the conduct of affairs on 606 of Satania is fully in the hands of the Melchizedek custodians.”
 

nivek

As Above So Below
the Blavatsky and Urantia philosophies and stories

The Urantia book is something much different than Blavatsky's books, its all channeled information which is always suspect...Channeling for knowledge is not a reliable source to gain knowledge from, it could be all rubbish or it could be partially muddied, it's sometimes difficult to verify...

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Toroid

Founding Member
I finished reading The Music of Time by Preston B. Nichols with Peter Moon. This was on page 180. There was an effort to create a new county in the Montauk location that would have been called Peconic County which is an anagram for Epic Con. That's the same logic as Anu's Epics.
The Internet Anagram Server : Anagrams for: peconic
 

JahaRa

Noble
I finished reading The Music of Time by Preston B. Nichols with Peter Moon. This was on page 180. There was an effort to create a new county in the Montauk location that would have been called Peconic County which is an anagram for Epic Con. That's the same logic as Anu's Epics.
The Internet Anagram Server : Anagrams for: peconic
Did you find any humor in the book. I laughed my head off. After reading that I now know why anyone ever bought albums by Mick Jagger's group. :laugh8:
 

Toroid

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Did you find any humor in the book. I laughed my head off. After reading that I now know why anyone ever bought albums by Mick Jagger's group. :laugh8:
He wrote that the subliminals sold the records, not the sound. Preston experimented with that and found he could put a psychic imprint on the recordings just by concentrating on it. He worked on Star Wars & The Empire strikes Back. He noticed Lucas had a group of people doing the same thing which attributed to the success of the movies. Preston believe Lucas is part of a group that came here from the old universe. The idea for the movies came from George’s writings called Journal of the Wills which were dreams he had his whole life.
 
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