Conversations with Extraterrestrials

JahaRa

Noble
There is YT channel "Rich Planet" and it has a whole series of videos about NATO coverup of human mutilations. It's quite gruesome to listen because these mutilations were truly horrific.


As well, some policemen from US wrote a book (forgot his name and the book) but there are few videos where he gives a lecture about his investigations. Possibly this is a good start:


If published UFO witness accounts are a good proxy representation of a number of human mutilations, my personal estimate would be that about 10% of alien-human encounters end up as mutilations. This doesn't necessarily reflect negatively on aliens, because if you flip that percentage then 90% of encounters are not intentionally harmful. It's almost certain that we are visited with more than one alien species, so some are good, some are bad and some are in-between. Current scientific estimates are about 30-40 technological aliens in Milky Way, spaced out on average by 1,000 light-years distance.

On the opposite side of the coin, less than 10% of encounters were reported as friendly. Like where aliens went out of the way to have a chat about life, the universe, and all. I would say 80% of direct alien-human encounters were just for scientific interest, like medical examinations and safe return.

Now, for me personally, 10% of being chopped up (without anesthetics) is too darn high to enter UFO. That's 1 in 10.

I am interested in your scientific documentation. Where do you get your "current scientific" estimates?

Also, the videos are not available. Oh, you have to click on the link to see them. OK.
 

JahaRa

Noble
Just search YouTube there are quite few recent videos on that subject in the last 6 months.
What are the credentials? Are you sure the data is scientific? I don't care to search youtube, I want to know exactly where you get the phrase "current scientific estimates"
 

JahaRa

Noble
sounds like Fire in the Sky although just the Hollywood part.
I don't remember anything like that in Fire in the Sky. And Travis Walton said the movie writers took a lot of liberties, making stuff up, including the scenes showing him on the ship and him being found naked in the rain. His book details are very different than the movie.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.


Sorry but I feel compelled to be the Debbie Downer this time when it comes to joining the aliens. :(
 

JahaRa

Noble


Sorry but I feel compelled to be the Debbie Downer this time when it comes to joining the aliens. :(

I remember reading the short story "To Serve Man" before it was made into a twilight zone episode. The thing I found interesting is that the woman was the one who figured it out but no one listened to her because, you know, Men Know Better. :D
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I remember reading the short story "To Serve Man" before it was made into a twilight zone episode. The thing I found interesting is that the woman was the one who figured it out but no one listened to her because, you know, Men Know Better. :D

been seeing this one on Shorpy :)
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I don't remember anything like that in Fire in the Sky. And Travis Walton said the movie writers took a lot of liberties, making stuff up, including the scenes showing him on the ship and him being found naked in the rain. His book details are very different than the movie.

Been a while but you're right, Travis' actual experience bears little resemblance to the movie. In the film ET was ugly, mean, brutish and kind of dirty. Ship was a mess. Snatching people and sticking them in goo might not be eating them but if your neighbor did that to you it wouldn't go over well
 
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nivek

As Above So Below
One would be ill-advised to leave with aliens.

There is a sinister backstory in a vast majority of UFO accounts where witnesses see human and animal body parts, or humans in cages, or even humans in glass cabinets filled with formalin. I would estimate that 90% of alien interest is scientific and that they simply see us as lab specimens. Cases of friendly aliens don't even make 10% of all accounts.

There's many contact sighting reports that seem to describe the aliens or their actions as indifferent, not friendly but also not hostile...I think they would be the type to take primitive mammals like us to keep in zoos lol...

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AmaraSnow

Novice
During astral travel any beings I encounter are telepathically communicated with. I think in the flesh aliens would communicate the same way.

If I met them in the flesh, face to face. I would ask why they remain hidden.

As to extraterrestrials that are here now, I tend to agree with Valee, that they're inter-dimensional and much more connected to Earth than we know.

As to going with extraterrestrials? I don't think so. I'm already on spaceship Earth, hurtling through space. That is enough.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
It looks like the fifties must have been really crap for women. No wonder my mom and her older sister were crazy and angry all the time.

Gram's recipe for menopause was chain smoking and black coffee. Gramp's recipe was chain smoking and sitting on the front porch.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
We've been binge watching Lucifer on Netflix. The idea of celestials and all that here on Earth makes for a clever show. What happens when you meet the Devil - the actual Devil, or God Almighty or the Goddess of Creation etc etc ? Bit of a mind bender.

Funny thing is, a lot of the (scripted) reactions would not be out of place in this thread. We expect a superior race to visit and be a cornucopia of answers to various problems, we think they care about our planet, problems. In fact we have a whole to-do list ready for them when they arrive. Global climate change, world peace, the cure for cancer, unlimited free energy. You get the idea. Hell, I'd avoid all that too.

What if the only thing superior about them is the tech they use to get here? Could just be a bunch of a******s . Just want to make sure any embarrassing obsequious behavior is really necessary first.
 
Way back a long time ago, in some book I was reading, an "experiencer" was being scolded by an alien, along the lines of You expect everything outside your system to be perfect. Well we have our own issues to deal with, just like anyone else.

Whatever one thinks of Whitley Strieber, an argument can be made that he has given us some useful concepts and ideas. One of his *ahem* more original ones is that aliens are just people, with bad habits, irritating coworkers, idiot relatives, and so on. Sometimes they are tired and cranky, sometimes they make stupid mistakes. Some of them are not exactly competent, and need supervision that sometimes lapses.

I do strongly suspect that travel to other realms is absurdly easy in comparison to our standard model of "interstellar" spacecraft. The old saw about the absurdity of aliens having the ability to cross vast distances only to be taken out by a thunderstorm is a handy way for a lot of us to sleep at night, but it might be as silly Billy Meier's Wedding Cake. We do tend to overthink things, Murricans in particular. What if the means of travel here from some other planet has more in common with a circus tent than an Apollo capsule? What if thunderstorms don't exist there? What if the level of civilization there looks more like the Holy Roman Empire than some hippie's idea of Nirvana? What if we have some from column A, some from column B, and on through column Q? What if the pinheads from column F and the evangelists from column J are unaware of each other's existence? What if the Prime Directive really is a thing? What if it's not even necessary for one reason or another?
 
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