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Standingstones

Celestial
I received a bit of education on car sales recently. My wife and I decided to go down to one vehicle. I had a practically new Hyundai Sonata with only 4K miles on it. We traded that and my wife’s vehicle in on a new Santa Fe. The salesperson we have been dealing with for many years said that the car manufacturers are eager to buy up used cars, in particular, low mileage vehicles.

It seems that the car manufacturers were having difficulties producing new cars during Covid times. They need available cars to keep in the pipeline. I was getting emails each month for me to sell my car back to Hyundai. I had a Sonata that had all the bells and whistles on it as well as low mileage. The dealership was salivating to have me sell it back to them.

Our new Santa Fe has even more features that our previous vehicles. We think we made the right choice going down to one car.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I have a Hyundai Tucson. Because I live in the city and don't need to drive that much these days it is 5 years old and only has about 17,000 miles on it. I get bombarded by emails from the dealership asking if I want to trade it in for another model. The Santa Fe is basically just a fancier version of the Tucson.

My SO is a classic car lover and is still working on restoring her old MG.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
a practically new Hyundai Sonata with only 4K miles on it.

I drove one of those as a rental car for a couple weeks after the car accident I was in a few months ago totalled my car, a black 2021 Hyundai Sonata, it was a nice car...

I bought a 2013 Chevrolet Malibu LTZ recently to replace the wrecked car I had and I really like this car...Has all the extras and tinted windows and drives really nice...I like this Chevy better than the last few vehicles I've owned over the years with the exception of a Mazda RX-7 I once had...Now that sports car was really fun to drive lol...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Did you guy's buy outright or lease?

For me neither one, the car I'm paying on now I gave a down payment they requested and making monthly payments for x number of years based in my credit and the car is mine, I get the title...Twice in the past I have bought a car outright, one of those I paid in cash and the other with a bank check and once I bought a motorcycle outright in cash...I've never leased a car, I don't have a use for that process, basically you're borrowing a car for x many years under contract and when the contract expires you have to give the car back or start a new contract...

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michael59

Celestial
For me neither one, the car I'm paying on now I gave a down payment they requested and making monthly payments for x number of years based in my credit and the car is mine, I get the title...Twice in the past I have bought a car outright, one of those I paid in cash and the other with a bank check and once I bought a motorcycle outright in cash...I've never leased a car, I don't have a use for that process, basically you're borrowing a car for x many years under contract and when the contract expires you have to give the car back or start a new contract...

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Yeah I don't understand why people lease but, there's this guy who went to get a used car for his wife and wanted to pay cash. The dealership wouldn't accept it. The salesman said that they don't make enough profit when they let people buy outright. The guy went somewhere else of course because obviously, it was nonsense. Can you believe that? They wouldn't accept his cash.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
I have paid cash the last few vehicles we have purchased. Leasing is renting. You end up with nothing at the end of the lease. Car dealerships want you to make payments as they can set you up and make even more money after the purchase of a vehicle.

Leasing is good for businesses using a fleet of vehicles. You beat the hell out of the cars or trucks and then start all over after the lease ends. You can write it off as business expenses.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I get the 'urgent need' crap for my F150 all the time. Just marketing.

I still tend to think of my 2015 F150 as 'new' and therefore I should go to a dealership for it's service. Earlier this year I had a run in with one of the idiot order writers at the dealership and I finally asked myself why I am overpaying for mediocre service. Think I found the right independent one stop shop nearby. Better service from the man who has his name on the door. At least I hope.
 
I had an amusing experience with a service manager at the local dealership a few years ago. Well, it's amusing now...

I still think of my '05 work van as a fairly new vehicle. It has a "clicker" for the door locks. We have another, similar van that we use for camping and errands the car is unsuitable for, and it's also my spare work van. It has two clickers. A couple of years ago, I found a newer one to replace the camper with. It came with a clicker, but it didn't work. So off I went to the dealership, thinking they were the only ones around who could reshuffle the clickers to my liking before I got rid of the old van. The service manager took a black box with several wires connected to it over to the van, and proceeded to get things so jacked up that the only clicker that worked when I got home would lock and unlock two of the vans.

I mentioned the mess to a friend, and he said he had recently bought a new clicker online, and set it up himself. He said it was easy. So after a few minutes of looking online, I got the instructions and went out to the driveway. Within about ten minutes, I had everything straightened out. All clickers worked, and only on the vehicles I wanted them to. It had never occurred to me that I might be able to do it myself. I figured a good locksmith in the city could do it, for a fee, which is no doubt true. Yep, I'm really up on things...
 

JahaRa

Noble
I received a bit of education on car sales recently. My wife and I decided to go down to one vehicle. I had a practically new Hyundai Sonata with only 4K miles on it. We traded that and my wife’s vehicle in on a new Santa Fe. The salesperson we have been dealing with for many years said that the car manufacturers are eager to buy up used cars, in particular, low mileage vehicles.

It seems that the car manufacturers were having difficulties producing new cars during Covid times. They need available cars to keep in the pipeline. I was getting emails each month for me to sell my car back to Hyundai. I had a Sonata that had all the bells and whistles on it as well as low mileage. The dealership was salivating to have me sell it back to them.

Our new Santa Fe has even more features that our previous vehicles. We think we made the right choice going down to one car.
2 months ago my daughter found out she had to pay a huge amount to fix her car that was not paid off, a Ford Fusion POS, she really wanted a new car and on a whim asked the dealer where she bought it and always got it fixed if she could look at used SUV's. They only had one and the guy tried to talk her in to a car she could not afford and did not like. She actually tried to buy a car from them and they kept giving her the run around so she took her old car to another Ford dealer and they convinced her the only thing she could afford was a Mustang. Big difference from an SUV. She bought the car and had buyers remorse after the first day. So Saturday she got fed up with it because she couldn't even fit my grandson's bicycle in the back seat or the trunk and went to a 3rd Ford dealer where she got a Ford Edge, a small SUV, and they gave her full price for her Mustang because the car she bought was their last new car. She is happy with her new car and that dealership. I hope this one is not like her Fusion, which broke down the first time 3 months after she bought it .
 

dr wu

Noble
Cars...they are a pain in the ass....but sadly most of us need them.
My wife inherited a Jeep Liberty with low mileage...I'm still driving my 2011 Honda Accord but looking to get a new one since it's 10 yrs old now. I might go to a small SUV ...Hyundai Tucson is nice for the price.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
A coworker has been obsessing over the release of the new Ford Bronco. Ordered it a year ago or more. Finally saw it. What a p.o.s. With most vehicles anymore all I see are bubbles, eggs and wedges. Some people have to go through cars constantly and keep pushing along a big ball of debt like a dung beetle.

I kind of like the new Challengers and Mustangs but what the hell do I need with a brand new rear wheel drive hobby car in New York where it snows?
 

michael59

Celestial
A coworker has been obsessing over the release of the new Ford Bronco. Ordered it a year ago or more. Finally saw it. What a p.o.s. With most vehicles anymore all I see are bubbles, eggs and wedges. Some people have to go through cars constantly and keep pushing along a big ball of debt like a dung beetle.

I kind of like the new Challengers and Mustangs but what the hell do I need with a brand new rear wheel drive hobby car in New York where it snows?

You might want to show this to your friend because this guy has 10 million followers. What that means is that this fault on the Ford Truck is now very well known and will probably be targeted a lot by thieves. The relevant part starts around the 5:04 mark.

 

nivek

As Above So Below
Challengers and Mustangs

I see so many of those when I go in town there's no way I'd have one in my driveway lol...I swear a third of the people in my county have either a Challenger or a Mustang...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
You might want to show this to your friend because this guy has 10 million followers. What that means is that this fault on the Ford Truck is now very well known and will probably be targeted a lot by thieves. The relevant part starts around the 5:04 mark.



10 million people follow this guy while he whines about having his woobie stolen because he was probably dumb enough to leave it where someone could see it? Only valuable I keep in mine is a jump pack and that's in back under an old blanket.

I'll have a look at my doors though, thanks. The handles on mine look different. Only latch problem I know of was fixed under recall. They used the wrong grease in it when they built it in Kansas City. Bring it up here to New York where it gets a LOT colder and the grease froze. That was problematic ....
 

JahaRa

Noble
A coworker has been obsessing over the release of the new Ford Bronco. Ordered it a year ago or more. Finally saw it. What a p.o.s. With most vehicles anymore all I see are bubbles, eggs and wedges. Some people have to go through cars constantly and keep pushing along a big ball of debt like a dung beetle.

I kind of like the new Challengers and Mustangs but what the hell do I need with a brand new rear wheel drive hobby car in New York where it snows?
Mustang is a P.O.S. too. It is probably ok if you don't have more than one passenger and don't need to carry anything in the trunk. You can't go to Costco with it. Ford quality has gone down. My daughter had buyer's remorse the day after she bought her new Mustang. She has traded it for a Ford Edge. It is a nice car, similar to a new Nissan Pathfinder but smaller. She will only buy Fords for some reason. But I like Nissan and probably will check out the Nissan's first if I ever buy another car.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
You might want to show this to your friend because this guy has 10 million followers. What that means is that this fault on the Ford Truck is now very well known and will probably be targeted a lot by thieves. The relevant part starts around the 5:04 mark.



Yup. About the same door latch.

You know those round barrel locks? They come on all sorts of things. Cabinets, steel rope locks and importantly - Harley Davidsons. Both the fork and ignition lock with them. Plastic pen top. Once you get the feel you can pop them open in two seconds.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Mustang is a P.O.S. too. It is probably ok if you don't have more than one passenger and don't need to carry anything in the trunk. You can't go to Costco with it. Ford quality has gone down. My daughter had buyer's remorse the day after she bought her new Mustang. She has traded it for a Ford Edge. It is a nice car, similar to a new Nissan Pathfinder but smaller. She will only buy Fords for some reason. But I like Nissan and probably will check out the Nissan's first if I ever buy another car.

I'd be after one of their factory muscle cars. Maybe one day. Saw a kid wiping off his Ford in front of the gym this morning. I have him my best old-guy 'slick Mustang'. If he had a tail he'd be wagging it.

I do happen to like to grocery-getter versions of popular cars, the ones minus the sport packages and big engines. The old '60s muscle cars were the first ones destroyed. Beaten like rented mules. It was Mom's old Chevelle with the straight six that really won the race a half century later.
 

dr wu

Noble
When I was a young man FORD stood for fix or repair daily.... ;)
I would like to think they are better these days but I have never owned one.
Dodge, Olds, Toyota, Honda for many years, Jeep....
 
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