Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

JahaRa

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No it;s a fact they said this.. all the virus experts . No one is certain about any of this. That's the only fact everyone seems to agree on, so getting vaccinated is less of a risk but better than dying from covid. I don't see how anyone can make a rational argument against this.
Who is "They"? There are so many political agendas and financial agendas that you can't just take information from one source and a blanket "they said" does not make anything fact, unless you identify "they" and quote what they said, then the fact is that they said it, not that they are correct with what "they" say.
 

nivek

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Not skipping...just getting to the point by going right to the point. ;)
So this is just an opinion about the CDC doing this intentionally...or what?
I do agree that if they aren't tracking all new origins of infections then they can't know the breakdown. I'd like to think this is about lack of resources and not some 'conspiracy'. I dislike 'conspiracy theorists' and all that entails.

I didn't use the word conspiracy, you did and I guess you didn't read the NPR article I linked either, its more than just an opine, its a fact, they said it not me...

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nivek

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The vomiting bug norovirus is surging in the the UK as it prepares to lift of all of its COVID-19 restrictions

Public health experts are warning of a surge in the so-called "winter vomiting" bug as the UK government prepares on lifting all of its COVID-19 restrictions, the BBC reported.

Cases of the norovirus, which is a highly contagious disease that causes projectile vomiting and diarrhea, usually peak in the winter.

But the stomach bug is making a rare early appearance, with Public Health England (PHE) saying on Friday that 154 norovirus outbreaks have been reported in the last five weeks, compared to an average of 53 over the same time period in the previous five years.

"Norovirus, commonly known as the winter vomiting bug, has been at lower levels than normal throughout the pandemic with less opportunity to spread between people in the community but as restrictions have eased we have seen an increase in cases across all age groups," Saheer Gharbia from Public Health England said, according to the BBC.

Although the symptoms can be extremely unpleasant, norovirus usually only lasts for two days and can be treated by staying at home and drinking lots of fluids.

However, norovirus is highly contagious and is easily transmitted through contact with infected people or contaminated surfaces.


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nivek

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Israeli government says Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine provides 'significantly LESS' protection against the Indian 'Delta' variant than health officials had hoped

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 'weaker' against the Indian 'Delta' variant than health officials had hoped, a new report from Israel claims

On Friday, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett held a discussion about the coronavirus with his Cabinet at the Kirya in Tel Aviv.

Israel once led the entire world in the vaccine race, vaccinating 61 percent of its population with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine - but is now dealing with a surge in cases.

On Thursday, the test positivity rate was 1.52 percent, which is the highest number since March.

As of June 6, the vaccine provides 64 percent protection against infection from the variant, according to the Israeli government.

'At the moment, there is an idea that is spreading to the effect that the protective ability of the existing vaccines against the Delta mutation is weaker than what we had hoped,' Bennett said.

'We do not know exactly to what degree the vaccine helps, but it is significantly less. We are all hoping to see a slowdown but the facts at the moment are that there is no slowdown, not here and not in the world.'


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dr wu

Noble
Who is "They"? There are so many political agendas and financial agendas that you can't just take information from one source and a blanket "they said" does not make anything fact, unless you identify "they" and quote what they said, then the fact is that they said it, not that they are correct with what "they" say.
They being sall the main stream doctors on the news/media, CDC, Health Agencies , AMA, etc ...I have no desire to seek out fringe ideas though obviosuly many are into 'alternate news sources'.
 

dr wu

Noble
I didn't use the word conspiracy, you did and I guess you didn't read the NPR article I linked either, its more than just an opine, its a fact, they said it not me...

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I did read it....and I also said if they don't count all new cases then it's an inaccurate count. Did you not read that? o_O
I was wondering if you thought it was intentional...do you? That would be a conspiracy by definition.
 

nivek

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I was wondering if you thought it was intentional...do you?

I would hope not and I'm inclined to think not however these days one never knows for sure, but more information is needed to make a proper determination...I doubt its because of lack of resources because everyone tested through state funded resources and medical facilities, whether vaccinated or not, are being recorded and collected by each state's health departments...So the data is there, its just not being collected and compiled by the CDC for whatever reason, maybe they don't think its necessary or they just want to focus on the unvaccinated, who knows...

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JahaRa

Noble
The vomiting bug norovirus is surging in the the UK as it prepares to lift of all of its COVID-19 restrictions

Public health experts are warning of a surge in the so-called "winter vomiting" bug as the UK government prepares on lifting all of its COVID-19 restrictions, the BBC reported.

Cases of the norovirus, which is a highly contagious disease that causes projectile vomiting and diarrhea, usually peak in the winter.

But the stomach bug is making a rare early appearance, with Public Health England (PHE) saying on Friday that 154 norovirus outbreaks have been reported in the last five weeks, compared to an average of 53 over the same time period in the previous five years.

"Norovirus, commonly known as the winter vomiting bug, has been at lower levels than normal throughout the pandemic with less opportunity to spread between people in the community but as restrictions have eased we have seen an increase in cases across all age groups," Saheer Gharbia from Public Health England said, according to the BBC.

Although the symptoms can be extremely unpleasant, norovirus usually only lasts for two days and can be treated by staying at home and drinking lots of fluids.

However, norovirus is highly contagious and is easily transmitted through contact with infected people or contaminated surfaces.


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We had that bug go through our city the last week of May. It is pretty bad for about 24 hours, then another day or two to recover depending on how healthy you are.
 

nivek

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Dozens of Vaccinated Residents Have Died of COVID in Mass.

Nearly 80 people have died with COVID-19 in Massachusetts even though they were fully vaccinated as the more contagious Delta variant continues to spread. These breakthrough cases where fully vaccinated individuals test positive for coronavirus have so far been rare, but are possible.

Here's what you need to know about breakthrough cases in Massachusetts:

How many breakthrough COVID cases are there in Massachusetts?

Public health officials have tracked 4,450 "breakthrough" cases of COVID-19 among Massachusetts residents fully vaccinated against the disease, representing about one-tenth of 1% of the roughly 4.2 million people immunized.

About 92% of the infections in vaccinated residents did not require hospitalizations, while 303 people, or 6.8%, were hospitalized, according to state Department of Public Health data through July 10.

The Boston Herald reported the breakthrough data on Tuesday based on a public records request.

Seventy-nine vaccinated residents in Massachusetts died from COVID-19, either without being hospitalized or following a hospital stay, DPH said. That death toll reflects 1.78% of the 4,450 confirmed breakthrough cases and 0.0019% of the 4,195,844 people fully vaccinated as of July 10.

“All available data continue to support that all 3 vaccines used in the US are highly protective against severe disease and death from all known variants of COVID-19. The best way to protect yourself and your loved ones is to get vaccinated,” the DPH said in a statement to The Boston Globe.

Does this mean the vaccines aren't working?

Just the opposite. Health experts have said occasional infections after vaccinations are expected but that the immunizations greatly reduce the chances that contracting COVID-19 will lead to serious complications or death.

“Yes, the vaccines aren’t perfect. We expect that some folks will still be infected. But both in the studies and in real-life evidence they are awfully good,” Dr. Eric Rubin, an infectious disease physician at Brigham and Women's Hospital, told the Globe.

Since the pandemic began, DPH has confirmed 665,088 COVID-19 infections and 17,647 deaths -- the bulk of which occurred before most residents had access to vaccines -- for a fatality rate of nearly 2.7%.

The pace of new vaccinations has slowed considerably in recent weeks leading up to and after the June 15 end of the state of emergency. In the seven-day period ending May 30, the state averaged 41,918 vaccine doses administered per day, but that rate dropped to 10,880 for the seven-day period ending July 2.

Gov. Charlie Baker's administration has ramped up its focus on more targeted vaccine initiatives, supporting door-knocking campaigns, local outreach and incentive programs such as a state-run "VaxMillions" lottery open only to those who are fully dosed.


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nivek

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Nearly 11,000 Deaths After COVID Vaccines Reported to CDC

Data released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) included 463,457 reports of injuries and deaths, across all age groups, following COVID vaccines — an increase of more than 25,000 compared with the previous week.

The data comes directly from reports submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), the primary government-funded system for reporting adverse vaccine reactions in the U.S.

Every Friday, VAERS makes public all vaccine injury reports received as of a specified date, usually about a week prior to the release date. Reports submitted to VAERS require further investigation before a causal relationship can be confirmed.

Data released today show that between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 9, 2021, a total of 463,457 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 10,991 deaths — an increase of 1,943 over the previous week. There were 48,385 serious injuries reported during the same time period — up 7,370 compared with the previous week.

In the U.S., 333 million COVID vaccine doses had been administered as of July 9. This includes: 135 million doses of Moderna’s vaccine, 184 million doses of Pfizer and 13 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson (J&J) COVID vaccine.

Of the 10,991 deaths reported as of July 9, 22% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination, 15% occurred within 24 hours and 37% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of being vaccinated.


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This week’s data for 12- to 17-year-olds show:
  • 14,003 total adverse events, including 866 rated as serious and 14 reported deaths. Two of the nine deaths were suicides.
  • The most recent reported death includes a 13-year-old boy (VAERS I.D. 1431289) with a previous history of COVID who suffered cardiac arrest and died 17 days after vaccination with Pfizer.
Other reports include two 13-year-old boys (VAERS I.D. 1406840 and 1429457) who died two days after receiving a Pfizer vaccine, three 15-year-olds (VAERS I.D. 1187918, 1382906 and 1242573), three 16-year-olds (VAERS I.D. 1420630, 1225942 and 1386841) and three 17-year-olds (VAERS I.D. 1199455, 1388042 and 1420762).

This week’s total VAERS data, from Dec. 14, 2020 to July 9, 2021, for all age groups combined show:
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nivek

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nivek

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Then and now...

Psaki says WH will 'welcome' COVID-19 vaccine PSA from Trump as cases rise

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The president’s press secretary noted that "almost every former president" has put out a PSA telling people that the COVID-19 vaccine "is safe and effective."

She also said the administration doesn’t believe an "embroidered invitation" is required for Trump to make a vaccine PSA and noted that him doing so would be a welcome "engagement."

"But, certainly, any role of anyone who has a platform where they can provide information to the public that the vaccine is safe, it is effective, we don’t see this as a political issue," Psaki said. "We’d certainly welcome that engagement."

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nivek

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Britain says most children will not be given COVID jabs

Britain said on Monday it has decided against giving mass COVID-19 vaccinations to all children and they would only be offered in certain situations such as when young people have underlying health conditions.

Compared with adults, children are much less likely to develop severe illness following infection with the coronavirus. But the majority of British parents in a survey this month said they favoured giving their children a vaccine if offered it. Children with severe neurodisabilities, Down's Syndrome, immunosuppression and profound and multiple learning disabilities will be eligible for the vaccine in new guidance from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI).

"We will be offering even more vulnerable people the protection that a vaccine brings and we will all be safer as a result," vaccine minister Nadhim Zahawi told parliament. The government said fewer than 30 children with the virus died in the United Kingdom up to March this year. Young people within three months of their 18th birthday will also be part of the vaccination programme "to allow a lead-in time", said Anthony Harnden, Deputy Chair of the JCVI.

Britain's decision is at odds with those taken in countries such as the United States where children over the age of 12 are being vaccinated.

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dr wu

Noble
Sean Hannity Basically Begs His Viewers to Get Vaccinated (Video)
“Just like we’ve been saying, please take COVID seriously. I can’t say it enough. Enough people have died. We don’t need any more death. Research like crazy. Talk to your doctor, your doctors, medical professionals. YOU trust based on your unique medical history, your current medical condition,” Hannity said.


Ex-Fox News Reporter Rips Tucker Carlson: ‘Leading Lemmings To Their Own Slaughter'
It’s about ratings and ratings ultimately become revenue, and that’s the name of the game,” Cameron told CNN’s “New Day” about personalities on Fox and other hyperpartisan media outlets that have questioned the shots. Vaccine resistance has now become a GOP rallying cry, even though the shots have been shown safe and effective.
 
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