Dean

Adept Dabbler
Hmmm...those look like pics from the photo shoot of Jethro Tull's album called 'A'. ;)

Well, now that you mention it, there is a song on that album called "Fylingdale Flyer," and some of the lyrics do seem to have a vague resonance with the subject we are discussing:

No quick conclusions now, everything will be fine,
Short-circuit glitsch and not what it seems.
Fylingdale flyer, you're only half way there,
Green screen liar.
For a second or so we were running scared.
 
Whitley Strieber is a tough nut to crack. I think he may fall into the same category as Phillip Corso. He may have witnessed some bona fide things, but adds to it a thick coat of exaggeration and his own conclusions.
Strieber certainly is a complex character. There have been some very interesting articles on line about his confabulations. I'm sure he has had some genuinely weird experiences, and I would not be surprised to learn he has actually had a lot of contact with aliens. But how does one sort out the truth from the delusions? Reminds me of that old quote about advertising, attributed to the owner of a hugely successful business. It goes something like, "I spend a fortune every year on advertising, and I know half of it is wasted. The trouble is, there is no way for me to tell which half it is."

Having said that, I do think he has contributed to the field in a positive way, almost in spite of himself. I think his contributions go beyond whether any of his stuff is true or real, factual, provable, plausible or even relevant. His writing is powerful, and he was able to push some ideas and concepts into the general population in a unique way. In that way, he is like Art Bell, I think: often full of shit, but he has changed the general population in intangible ways when it comes to the paranormal.
 
Hey, I had not read that article (from Texas Monthly, February 1976) in quite a long time. Obviously, it was a feature piece, good-natured and sympathetic towards its subject matter. The talented feature writer, Stephen Harrigan, was not expected to probe very deeply into any of Stanford's claims-- the primary purpose was to entertain and amuse, with informational content secondary. Within those parameters, it was a decent piece.

Harrigan identified me correctly in the article: at the time (I was 25 years old)-- I was "an AUM staffer and an editor of the Project Starlight International journal." ["AUM" refers to the Association for the Understanding of Man, a nonprofit organization (now long defunct) of which Stanford was technically an employee, but in practice the trance-psychic-oracle and boss. Project Starlight International (PSI) was an endeavor under the AUM umbrella.]

To my mind -- 45 years older and I hope much wiser -- the article remains worthwhile in several respects, in addition to its entertainment value. For one thing, it captures a little taste of Ray Stanford's self-dramatizing pretentiousness, as in the quote, "This isn’t a game; it’s a dangerous undertaking. That’s one reason we wear name-tags out here--should we be killed, people will at least be able to identify us.” I think we young guys laughed about that quote for months--but not in Stanford's hearing, of course. I assure you that we never drew hazardous-duty pay for the evenings we spent on that hilltop site, scanning the skies (and we young guys were there much, much more than Stanford himself). I'm not sure anybody ever actually wore a name tag except Stanford, but I could be mistaken on that point. We actually wore the white jump suits because Stanford thought they made us look scientific. If memory serves, we wore the white jumpsuits mostly when reporters or other guests were on site-- they got dirty easily.

The article as it currently appears on the Internet no longer includes the photo layout that appeared in the magazine. Here is one of them. That's me in the right rear, wearing the binoculars.

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Thanks for posting this! I had no idea you were involved in that stuff. I'd have eaten it up back then if I lived nearby, and probably would have participated to some degree, though I doubt I'd have rated white coveralls. The best I usually do is a T shirt with VOLUNTEER lettered on the back, presumably as a warning of potential hazard. The "scientific" hardware aspect would have attracted me. There were very few such efforts, at least that I was ever aware of. Obviously it's expensive and labor intensive. That's an impressive array of equipment he put together. Too bad nothing astounding came of it.

I assume that's what drew Chris O'Brien to Stanford's work. Seems like he alluded to that when he started becoming the unofficial spokesman for him. I know Chris was thinking about that sort of thing long before he got any of his current efforts along those lines off the ground. I picture Chris contacting him, asking about his instrumented research, and his own bona fides being sufficient for Ray to grant him an audience. I'm just guessing, of course. Whatever led to their meeting, it does not surprise me that Chris wasn't put off by Ray's irascible behavior. He lived in Crestone for many years, after all. Cranky old fusspots are not uncommon there.
 

Justice Fodor

A pen name of Dean (used 2-8-19 to 8-1-21)
In Ray Stanford Close Ups No. 2 and No. 9, I detailed and documented Ray Stanford's past efforts, over a 15-year period and extending into his mid-30s, to promote and raise money for a device he called "the Hilaron Accelerator," which was described as a UFO-like device that could confer extraordinary powers on an occupant, including in some cases the power to physically, literally transport into the distant past.

Because a recent article on The Daily Grail made a passing reference to Stanford's time-machine project, and because Stanford repeatedly denied the extent and nature of his promotion of the "Accelerator," I've now posted an additional audio clip from a promotional talk Stanford gave in 1974. In the clip, Stanford made it very clear that he meant literal, physical transport to the distant past -- entailing even a risk of becoming stranded in the past.

Ray Stanford and His Super-Power-Inducing Time Machine (AKA "The Hilaron Accelerator")
 

Kaipo

Adept
Ladies and Gentlemen, by popular demand, a return tour for the Ray Stanford Close Up series!

Step right up! The mind-boggling UFO-evidence and alien-contact claims made by Ray Stanford will ASTONISH and AMAZE you-- their number, their diversity, their grandiosity, and their ability to remain suspended in the air for decades without any visible means of support!

Do not miss these selected highlights from the longest-running spectacle in ufology! Meet the 82-year-old man who was contacted by "Space Brothers" in the 1950s, and who has since personally taken (he says) "thousands" of frames of UFO movie and still footage-- images that, under extreme enlargement and other assists, provide positive proof of exotic technology to the discerning eye! Read the Ray Stanford Close Ups now, so you will be ready when Stanford's bulletproof proof is unveiled to the eager public-- and it's bound to happen soon!

Thrill to Stanford's claim, before 6 million Donahue viewers, to possess material "that doesn't seem to be duplicable right now on Earth or in nature"-- manufactured material that Stanford revealed elsewhere to be debris from a gigantic alien space city! Weep at the sad tale of the scientists at Goddard Space Flight Center who stole Stanford's metal scrapings from the alien egg-craft that Lonnie Zamora saw at Socorro, New Mexico, in 1964 (but, be uplifted by Stanford's generous offer to testify before Congress about the alien egg-craft that he knows was captured intact by the Air Force just six days later)!

Be stupified at Stanford's 2019 description of the photo he took of a three-foot-tall, bald, pointy-eared alien, sitting in a spacecraft-- a photo so clear "you can count the fingers on his hand!" Yes, ladies and gentlemen, just imagine counting those fingers on his little alien hand! (Disclaimer: You will have to imagine it, because the photo, taken in 1984, has never been published.)

Learn about Stanford's "Project Starlight International," and the secret story of the behind-the-scenes guidance that "hard science" project received from Aramda-- a member of the extraterrestrial "Watchers," with whom Stanford has been acquainted for "38,000 years." You will be thrilled to actually hear the voice of Aramda, speaking through the borrowed vocal cords of the in-trance Stanford, to the rapt attention of the assembled members of the Stanford-led "Association for the Understanding of Man."

Be flabbergasted at the U.S. Air Force's promise to scramble fighter planes against UFOs anytime Stanford picked up the phone!

Experience the thrill of hearing the very voice of Ray Stanford soliciting funds to build "the Hilaron Accelerator," "a device that in many respects is similar to a UFO," a 25-foot "great big polished copper medicine capsule," that would confer super powers on the person inside, including the power to travel physically back in time! Yes, a time machine, ladies and gentlemen!

Yes, open your minds to all of these marvels, and much, much more -- with verbatim quotes, dates, and best of all, uploaded documents and audio files that put you there!

Carnival Guide Hint: If you're short on time, or can only stand so much edge-of-your-seat excitement at one sitting, skip ahead to Ray Stanford Close Up No. 9, in which Stanford actually responds to some of the material in the earlier threads. It is a high-wire comic act that you won't want to miss!

Ladies and Gentlemen, without further ado, I give you -- Ray Stanford's Carnival of Incredible and Unsubstantiated UFO Claims!

1. Ray Stanford Close Up No. 1:
Ray Stanford and His Ever-Receding Claims of World-Shaking UFO Evidences

2. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 2:
Ray Stanford and His Super-Power-Inducing Time Machine (AKA "The Hilaron Accelerator")

3. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 3:
Ray Stanford's Instructions for Greeting the Occupants of the UFO That Would Land (1973)

4. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 4:
Ray Stanford and his NASA-Goddard UFO-Metal Cover-Up Claim (1964)

5. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 5:
Ray Stanford's Claim to Have a Piece of a Gigantic Intergalactic Spacecraft (Space Material)(1971)

6. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 6:
Ray Stanford Close-Up #6 - Audio Excerpts of Stanford Speaking & Channeling Aramda of "The Watchers"

7. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 7:
Ray Stanford Close-Up No.7: Claims the U.S. Air Force Offered to Scramble Jets at Stanford Requests

8. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 8:
Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 8: Unearthly Crystal, Alien Pilot, Faraday Rings, and Magnetometer Data

9. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 9: Stanford Swipes at His Critics; Plus Alien Fingers, "A Major Government Operation," and the Stanford-Goddard-NASA Connection
Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 9: Stanford Hits Critics + "A Major Government Operation" and NASA

10. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 10: Ray Stanford and the photographed, captured alien egg-craft of 1964
Ray Stanford and His Ever-Receding Claims of World-Shaking UFO Evidences

11. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 11: Was James Fox correct in saying that a "massive discovery"at the National Archives vindicated Ray Stanford about the symbol Lonnie Zamora saw on the Socorro UFO?
Is James Fox right about Ray Stanford being vindicated on Socorro symbol?

My email address is Justice_Fodor -- and it is a Protonmail.com address.

"There's a sucker born every minute." -- David Hannum, banker and hoaxer, 1869 (often mis-attributed to P.T. Barnum)

Has he ever come thru with anything? Was he alwayys a ufo shyster?
 

Justice Fodor

A pen name of Dean (used 2-8-19 to 8-1-21)
Ray Stanford has made very many public claims to possession of UFO evidences and to personal encounters with aliens going back nearly seven decades. I am not aware of any of Stanford's more remarkable claims that have ever truly been validated by truly independent analysts who are not dependent on Stanford's stories, manipulated images, etc.

Stanford has re-invented himself and rewritten his history multiple times. Also, he has himself repudiated, or radically reinterpreted, many of the UFO-related claims that he made during the period of 1954 to the late 1970s-- a period spanning a quarter century.

In 1958, Stanford published a small book (Look Up) about his purported close encounters with alien spacecraft, telepathic communications with space brothers, a cosmic consciousness experience when induced by a nearby alien craft, etc. Stanford was still giving gosh-wow accounts of those claimed experiences in lectures in the mid-1970s, at least one of which was sold on cassette by the nonprofit organization that employed Stanford*, the Association for the Understanding of Man (now long defunct). It is worth a listen. Also during the 1970s, Stanford was regularly going into trances and channeling members of the "White Brotherhood," include "Aramda" of the extraterrestrial Watchers, about which I have written in detail in the "Ray Stanford Close Up" series. Those tapes are real eye-openers, too.

[*Update-clarification (August 3, 2021): Ray Stanford did in fact give a lecture, titled "Firsthand Contacts with Extraterrestrial Life," going into great detail about his claimed 1950s contacts with UFOs and aliens, on August 23, 1974, during a conference of held by the Association for the Understanding of Man (AUM). However, my memory deceived me when I wrote that the lecture was "sold on cassette" by AUM. Several other presentations from that conference were indeed sold on audio cassette, including a Stanford lecture on the "Hilaron Accelerator" (time machine), but not "Firsthand Contacts with Extraterrestrial Life." Fortunately, I attended the "Extraterrestrial" lecture and recorded it myself; anyone who wants a free digital copy, please send me a Personal Message, or request by email: Douglas Dean Johnson, with periods between the names -- it is a gmail address.]

Stanford was in his mid-30s at the time, so we are not exactly talking about the follies of youth. Stanford himself in later decades repudiated channeling as unreliable. So whether or not one believes that the term "UFO shyster" fits -- I myself have not employed that terminology -- both the record and Stanford's own later stance shows that, with respect to alien claims, he was unreliable from the earliest days.

In more recent decades Stanford has become more adept at adopting scientific-sounding jargon, at times, but the gross subjectivity, grandiose flights of imagination, and frequent departures from candor all remain lifelong patterns.
 
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Theo

Novice
In the interest of honesty, it should be known by readership here that the user Justice Fodor is also the name Skylar Kron. Alternatively used on different sites, still they are one person the same.

In actuality, they are himself Douglas Dean Johnson!

Why such pretense? What compulsion he has to persecute Sig. Stanford must be explained to himself, as well the deception here. What is the true motive? Attenti all'ingannatore.
 

dr wu

Noble
Welcome Theo....I notice you are also new here.
I would ask what your interest in 'Fodor' is and why do you think he is 'persecuting' Stanford? :unsure8:
 

nivek

As Above So Below
In the interest of honesty, it should be known by readership here that the user Justice Fodor is also the name Skylar Kron. Alternatively used on different sites, still they are one person the same.

In actuality, they are himself Douglas Dean Johnson!

Why such pretense? What compulsion he has to persecute Sig. Stanford must be explained to himself, as well the deception here. What is the true motive? Attenti all'ingannatore.

What's your true motivation for coming here and stating this?...Best intentions?...I see no deception here, people use different names for accounts on forums all the time instead of their real names, such as my name 'nivek' and most others here and on numerous other forums and message boards...Is Theo your real name?...Are you really residing in Italy?...I think you're barking up the wrong tree as there are no deceptions being played here...

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In the interest of honesty, it should be known by readership here that the user Justice Fodor is also the name Skylar Kron. Alternatively used on different sites, still they are one person the same.

In actuality, they are himself Douglas Dean Johnson!

Why such pretense? What compulsion he has to persecute Sig. Stanford must be explained to himself, as well the deception here. What is the true motive? Attenti all'ingannatore.
I can't help noticing you don't dispute the factual material in Justice Fodor's posts.

As the proprietor of more aliases than I can properly keep track of, let alone maintain decently, I can see why someone might want to use a different account for something like those exposés. I don't care who it is, the work stands on its own merits. Everything is substantiated, often with primary source material, linked and sorted. It's outstanding work, especially for the wild and weird end of the web.

Persecution? Try sound scholarship.
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
In the interest of honesty, it should be known by readership here that the user Justice Fodor is also the name Skylar Kron. Alternatively used on different sites, still they are one person the same. In actuality, they are himself Douglas Dean Johnson! Why such pretense? What compulsion he has to persecute Sig. Stanford must be explained to himself, as well the deception here. What is the true motive? Attenti all'ingannatore.

Friends, I am the aforementioned Douglas Dean Johnson, and because I do not wish for anyone to overlook my response, I have started a new thread on this matter, here.
 

dr wu

Noble
I have been following many aspects of the UFO enigma since about 1975 and frankly never heard about Stanford.
At any rate I do believe there are many 'frauds' and 'hoaxers' out there in the ufo and paranormal field.
I looked for info on him recently before Mr Johnson posted his comment above because there is a thread on him ,and there isn't that much information available. I did see this which is a negative piece on Mr Stanford. Granted it is a blog opinion from 2009.
The Truth Uncensored: Ray Stanford Uncensored
From the blog: "Stanford was introduced to the UFO field by shysters, hawking bogus stories to an uninformed public. When Stanford learned that the fraud had turned on him, denying him money for his "work" by these contactee pretenders, he disavowed Williamson and McCoy and started his own UFO contactee business."
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
On August 6, 2021, in his presentation at the AIAA session on UAP, Prof. Kevin Knuth cited images provided by Ray Stanford as evidence for exotic UAP tech effects — specifically, “plasma sheath,” “plasma beam ahead,” and maybe even “warp drive.” I think that Prof. Knuth was ill advised to do so. I explain why in a new post summarizing the untrustworthiness of UFO/alien evidence claims by Ray Stanford.

Prof. Kevin Knuth presented dubious Ray Stanford UFO-evidence images and claims at AIAA. A mistake.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Ok I need to know about his alleged discovery of dino tracks or bones.
Did he really make such a claim?
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
I have written a long new post, "Career Achievement Award Goes to Ray Stanford," looking back over some of the most notable Ray Stanford claims related to aliens over the past 60-plus years, including many graphics and quotes that I have not previously reported, and uploads of historical documents and audio clips not previously made available.

Alien-Lore Career Achievement Award Goes to Ray Stanford...
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
Bumping this thread to the top, due to a new development -- the release of a strongly worded 11-page open letter (dated December 7, 2021) by Daniel H. Harris, Ph.D. (astronomy), who was Research Director for Ray Stanford's Project Starlight International in 1977-1978. I discuss and link the letter in this post on Alien Expanse, and in much more depth in this article on my UFO-themed blog.
 
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