How is The Coronavirus affecting your life?

AD1184

Celestial
The number of Covid jabs someone has had correlates with their vulnerability to infection, and especially to age. The older someone is, the more likely they are to die from all causes and from covid. Vaccine refusal/hesitancy correlates negatively with age:
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From the time that vaccines became available, until the emergence of the omicron variant, the unvaccinated were far more likely to die of Covid than they are now. Now Covid is a milder disease, and it bears less resemblance to the original Wuhan strain of the virus, so the vaccines are less effective. It does not mean that people are dying from Covid because of the vaccines. It is that vaccines confer less of a protective effect due to the change in the virus, the milder nature of the virus means fewer unvaccinated are getting seriously ill with it, coupled with the fact that most people have by now had prior exposure to one or more strains of the virus.

I dare say that vaccine refusers tend to be out-and-about more and less likely to take any precautions against the disease, so are more likely to have been exposed before than the average person. You can see in the same dataset that informs the article above, that there was a time in the not-too-distant past when the balance of risk was heavily against the unvaccinated.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
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Thanks for the info.

I will be a good guinea pig and get a booster shot every 6 months if they allow it.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
My wife and I just heard that our niece and great niece came down with Covid. My niece had her shots. I am not sure if my great niece got the vaccine. We were sent a video from my nephew. My great niece ( 4 1/2 years old) was dancing and acting up. She still has more energy being sick than this old fart!
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
My friend's family has covid again. Just enough to feel crummy. He doesn't.

Not from an online stat - does anyone actually know a person who has had full blown covid that subsequently got it again ?

Subjectively, very subjectively, seems like people who never had it that have been vaccinated are prone to getting it. Of the few people who had it early on, my friend and myself included, I haven't heard of any reoccurrence. In this case we've both been vaccinated and boosted and in both of our cases none of the shots really affected us.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
My friend's family has covid again. Just enough to feel crummy. He doesn't.

Not from an online stat - does anyone actually know a person who has had full blown covid that subsequently got it again ?
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Yeah. a member of the family has had Covid and was in hospital for a week. 8 months later, got it again. Didn't go to hospital, but took the Anti Viral which helped a lot.

My doctor once said Viruses can be caught again and again. He knew of a person who got the same flu virus twice only one month between, but vaccines do help the body fight infections and the body usually can fight a second round of infection better.

Every viral infection has potential to cause damage to the body. So there are no guarantees when it comes to viruses. Every person is different...

But they know vaccinations do help. They see it all the time.

However, that does not mean people will not get sick or die, vaccines just help to reduce the risks.
 

AD1184

Celestial
My doctor once said Viruses can be caught again and again.
I don't think your doctor is right. Chickenpox is an example of a viral infection that usually confers a life-long immunity once someone has been infected, although a minority of sufferers may go on to develop shingles if the virus lingers in the nerve ganglia. Gonorrhoea is an example of a bacterial infection which confers no immunity whatsoever after infection.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I don't think your doctor is right. Chickenpox is an example of a viral infection that usually confers a life-long immunity once someone has been infected, although a minority of sufferers may go on to develop shingles if the virus lingers in the nerve ganglia. Gonorrhoea is an example of a bacterial infection which confers no immunity whatsoever after infection.

The mumps virus is another example, a mumps virus (an RNA virus) infection leads to lifelong immunity against future infection for most people...

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Standingstones

Celestial
My friend's family has covid again. Just enough to feel crummy. He doesn't.

Not from an online stat - does anyone actually know a person who has had full blown covid that subsequently got it again ?

Subjectively, very subjectively, seems like people who never had it that have been vaccinated are prone to getting it. Of the few people who had it early on, my friend and myself included, I haven't heard of any reoccurrence. In this case we've both been vaccinated and boosted and in both of our cases none of the shots really affected us.
I have two nephews and two nieces that got the vaccine shots and all four got the Covid virus. Go figure!
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
I don't think your doctor is right. Chickenpox is an example of a viral infection that usually confers a life-long immunity once someone has been infected, although a minority of sufferers may go on to develop shingles if the virus lingers in the nerve ganglia. Gonorrhoea is an example of a bacterial infection which confers no immunity whatsoever after infection.

I don't think your doctor is right. Chickenpox is an example of a viral infection that usually confers a life-long immunity once someone has been infected, although a minority of sufferers may go on to develop shingles if the virus lingers in the nerve ganglia. Gonorrhoea is an example of a bacterial infection which confers no immunity whatsoever after infection.
These and others like the polio virus can't easily change its genome. That's why we've been so successful at (almost) eradicating it.

But Covid and the flu mutate more drastically and the immune system may not recognize these new strains.
 

michael59

Celestial

Victory for Medical Choice in Illinois: Health System Settles for $10.3m with Workers over Mandates​


Article | A legal clash pitting healthcare employees that opted out of the COVID-19 vaccine mandates for religious motivations against a sizable Midwestern integrated health system has been settled by the parties based on a $10.3 million negotiated agreement that now just simply needs execution by a federal judge. Billed by the plaintiff’s counsel as the first-class action lawsuit settlement against a private employer concerning the COVID-19 vaccine mandates, the conflict started when fourteen healthcare employees, including nurses, a pharmacy tech, and a senior application analyst filed a lawsuit last October against the defendant, NorthShore University HealthSystem. The employees were named anonymously in the litigation.

 

nivek

As Above So Below
Got an email from Uber yesterday that masks are no longer required.

I see few people still wearing masks in the grocery stores, mainly elderly people and black people...

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In my county the virus has lessened to very low numbers, about the same we had last years fall-december period. Almost no people were masks anymore in the store, and i got my 4th dose of the vaccine 3 weeks ago.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
This is perhaps an ignorant question I'd like to ask anyone...Why is anyone still getting covid jabs?...What is the rational in doing so now?...I would honestly like to understand that motivation...

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wwkirk

Divine
This morning I had my first ever COVID test. It was done by a clinic. (I've never utilized the home kits in my possession.) Got the result about 6 hours after the swabs.

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
This morning I had my first ever COVID test. It was done by a clinic. (I've never utilized the home kits in my possession.) Got the result about 6 hours after the swabs.

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Yeah. Masks, jabs, more jabs followed by extra just in case jabs, everybody hide at home under the bed and screw this generation of kids up from all the jabberwocky. And yet your new neighbors down there in Orchard Beach just wandered in and nobody's too concerned about whatever the hell they might be carrying in from places that probably don't have the minimum inoculation standards we've had even apart from covid. If you were one of the tenants of those NYCHA ****holes that Cuomo toured - and that's all they got - how would you feel about all that ?
 
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Standingstones

Celestial
We have friends and relatives who got the two shots and the booster. They all caught the Covid virus. Needless to say, they have totally given up on any more shots. I know WalMart is pushing hard for people to get additional booster shots. That game plan must not be working so well these days.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Covid doesn't affect my life anymore and I'm not at all concerned about it anymore either lol...I still see people wearing masks and probably will for years to come...Good luck to anyone who still gets those covid vaccine jabs, they don't even bother testing them anymore from what I've read, so whomever gets the jabs are likely the test subjects...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
We have friends and relatives who got the two shots and the booster. They all caught the Covid virus. Needless to say, they have totally given up on any more shots. I know WalMart is pushing hard for people to get additional booster shots. That game plan must not be working so well these days.

... and I got the Real Deal before the vaccine and had bazillions of interactions with people at close range before we got the shots and booster without a sniffle. We got it as a practical matter due to hospital and nursing home access - little choice - in NY nursing homes and covid are rightfully a touchy subject because of that asswipe governor.

But right now I have a copy of my vax card sitting right next to me on the desk. You apply for a job they want it and not your opinion. A friend has placed his substantial six figure income on his opinion and he's already had trouble with his employer from it. The man has the courage of his convictions but from a practical standpoint with two small kids at home I don't think I'd take the same route.
 
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