Sine qua non

nivek

As Above So Below
Unseen powers that exist around us in nature, for some its viewed as a menace by an unknown danger, for others a clever feat of engineering, in some parts as a wild untamed mountain, and for a few simply impressions that have nothing to do with humanity...

The descriptions sound glorious, ask any friend who is listening to a particular symphony, there are no flat notes, like some artistic soul imagining a charming place in some great work of art...Fluffy clouds are generally unconsciously accepted as such, perhaps another clever feat of engineering, or an activity in storing food to satisfy an instinctive urge...
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
In the movie "Into Thin Air" the lead Sherpa was telling one of the climbing leaders that Chomolungma Mother Goddess of the Earth will get very angry. When they said that I understood exactly how he felt......there is something about that mountain that is far beyond being just a tall piece of rock.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Pumpkins, as well as many other things, may certainly be labeled and classified so long as they are thought of and considered as they really are and recognised by their means, but if made of glass by thought into the form of the object, thought will lead the course of ordinary life, then sometime a sudden fall into very deep water...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
there is something about that mountain that is far beyond being just a tall piece of rock.

The energy and movement can become self sustaining, capable of engineering its own wind and be consciously sensitive of the degree of energy refined...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
.....or is it that it can make its own weather?

Yes some mountains can make its own weather because of its size and shape, effectively controlling the energies within its vicinity...
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Yes some mountains can make its own weather because of its size and shape, effectively controlling the energies within its vicinity...

No doubt it does form its own weather.....and maybe even infrasounds.......but it still seems somewhat enchanted.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
No doubt it does form its own weather.....and maybe even infrasounds.......but it still seems somewhat enchanted.

People form their own 'weather' too, from turbulent winds and fog to sunshine and clear skies, it's mechanical but appears natural...lol
 

nivek

As Above So Below
The energy and movement can become self sustaining, capable of engineering its own wind and be consciously sensitive of the degree of energy refined, like a windmill responding to every breeze...The energy must pass before the Vishuddha to achieve any real measure of freedom and self direction...

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nivek

As Above So Below
When there are two or more dissimilar objects encompass the figurative space in front of ones face they can take on many forms and any shape, they speak for themselves regarding their differences by transcending any literal meaning if there was any at all...Its meaning can become a state of being and this would then throw some light on the initial idea of the "uncrossed desert" or the "unclimbed ridge"...

The ability to discern several key characteristics which would indicate the place to which they properly belong can reveal a wide range of systems with the purpose of reminding us of our potential to evolve...No doubt there is a direction to the method 'far off in the distance waiting by the river' but the desired effect and outcome can be enhanced if met with the need...Instead of looking at all the pieces separately which might indicate its origin the essential characteristics of the whole do have substance and more than one attribute and occupies a certain space...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Life sometimes has no chance against entrenched authority, one reason is because the values and morals of that 'authority' are simply the automated actions and stance of someone else...Some agree that while intellectual or emotional operations are in progress other functions should remain silent, however, in many cases these 'other functions' are the most essential and needed for the task at hand...Without realizing one is standing between 'two worlds' an incorrect notation of a situation can easily be obtained...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Inner possibilities reveal inner strengths and weaknesses even through just remembering oneself, which may seem impossible for some to do at times, but it is the will that is the strongest thing there is and one must be strong when facing inner possibilities...

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nivek

As Above So Below
A sage will only confide knowledge to another when that one is ripe for it...You may be friends and have an intimate friendship with this sage but a gap will exist between you and his 'true self' for as long as you have not become more enlightened yourself...You may try to trick the sage, flatter the sage, or torture the sage but nothing can induce the sage to betray anything to you for as long as you are not competent and ready to relieve knowledge in the right way...

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nivek

As Above So Below
"Words are only containers, not the content. The content will be absorbed in the heart, and the containers have to be thrown away. You cannot carry all the containers always."

Osho

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nivek

As Above So Below
"Words are only containers, not the content. The content will be absorbed in the heart, and the containers have to be thrown away. You cannot carry all the containers always."

Osho

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There is a relation between the quote above and the quote in my signature, the relevance of this relation is not with the words themselves but what they contain...

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nivek

As Above So Below

A real seeker of truth, that one in a million, cannot be completely prepared for what comes, because it will be an undoing...Upon opening the gates of consciousness all impurities are flushed out, including that 'I' who began to seek truth...

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spacecase0

earth human
A sage will only confide knowledge to another when that one is ripe for it...You may be friends and have an intimate friendship with this sage but a gap will exist between you and his 'true self' for as long as you have not become more enlightened yourself...You may try to trick the sage, flatter the sage, or torture the sage but nothing can induce the sage to betray anything to you for as long as you are not competent and ready to relieve knowledge in the right way...
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it has been my experience that you can tell someone they should not know,
they don't know what to do with it anyway, often forgetting it soon after.

A real seeker of truth, that one in a million, cannot be completely prepared for what comes, because it will be an undoing...Upon opening the gates of consciousness all impurities are flushed out, including that 'I' who began to seek truth...
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like the tower card in the taro deck.
most fear it, I seek it.
challenge your self on ever level.
explore every dark corner you can find in yourself
learning is fun once you get how it is going to happen.
you have to loose yourself to get to the other side.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
you have to loose yourself to get to the other side.

Small price to pay but for some that price is too high, yet you didn't mention what it is that will peer into "the other side" once that 'self' is gone...

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spacecase0

earth human
Small price to pay but for some that price is too high, yet you didn't mention what it is that will peer into "the other side" once that 'self' is gone...

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guess I could have phrased it better.
the exercise to show people what is what goes something like this,
you are not your clothing,
you are not your fingernail or your hair as you can live without it...
you are not your body, you can see this as well and can exist without it.
you can also see your thoughts, so they are also something you use and is not an intrinsic part of you.
same goes for emotions, these are all tools that you use, handy tools, but still tools.
when you get down to what you are, it seems to be a dot.
you can perceive and you can influence. but as a pure consciousness with no tools, you are not even inside reality, there is no time or space.
I see all the tools as a personality.
and I can do without them.
many people grasp at them so hard that they fail.
I can always build another personality if I need to get past something were I can't take the current one with me.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
If one isn't ready he cannot see and it's not because of anything hiding or hidden from him, it's revealed in every breath, in every moment there's a living example, but if one is not ready he will not see, even if it's right in front of him...

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