Bob Lazar and Area 51

Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

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So far, I think it is most likely that some of Bob's story is true, or at least more probable than not. It is not unreasonable to presume that he did work at Los Alamos at some point and could very well have met Edward Teller. His name does appear in a directory for the facility. George Knapp says that he and Bob visited Los Alamos and Bob was quite familiar with the place. Los Alamos is a big place and it seems quite plausible that he could have worked there as a lab technician or research assistant of some type.

He could have spent some time at A51 and/or S4. Perhaps he worked there some as part of his duties at Los Alamos. Thousands of people have worked there over the decades, and there is the DNI W2 form. It has been reported that DNI has had many projects at A51, so this is plausible. The W2 has a very low amount of income on it, so Bob probably did not work there very long. It would be interesting to see Bob's other W2's for that time period and see where this one falls in.

Beyond that, I'm not ready to buy anything from Bob's story. I think it is very likely that he was angry at being fired over the UFO watching incident, and so decided to get them back with a fantastic story that would draw alot of attention to a place that is both highly restricted and does not exist.
 
Castle-Yankee54

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Zeke said:
thanks I was in car unable to look up date. still until someone shows me more instances of Teller being asked about Lazar, I'm going to assume this was the only time. the ball is in skeptics side. as of now he is on record pleading the 5th. that is telling.
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Where did he plead the 5th?.....I missed it. Actually I only saw one person ask/tell Aldrin about the moon.

I'd still like to see the rest of that alleged interview.
 
Area201

Area201

cold fusion
Rick Hunter said:
so decided to get them back with a fantastic story that would draw alot of attention to a place that is both highly restricted and does not exist.
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and he got several of his pals to go along with it! o_O very far fetched.

Occam's Edge: in this instance, the wild ufo story is more plausible than the collection of people collaborating the story just because he got fired. Granted there's assumptions on both sides.
 
Castle-Yankee54

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Zeke said:
It's more a figure of speech - not technically- where someone chooses to remain silent. One example is Jesus in Bible when asked if he's the king of the Jews, and so on. You know damn well what I meant. lol

1. well it's not "alleged" we clearly see some section of it. 2. yes me too.
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Actually I didn't know that's what you meant.....you are not always clear.

Actually you never see the person talking and asking the questions.....so you can't go beyond "allegedly". If that is all there is I'd say it was bogus. How Teller was cut off mid-sentence points to that already.
 
Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

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The UFO watching incident is not in question, that is what others have corroborated. I also don't find it implausible that Bob worked at Los Alamos and A51/S4. The real question in my mind is, what exactly did Bob experience at A51/S4? As far as I know, only Dennis Mariani and his goons could answer that and they haven't come forward yet!
 
Area201

Area201

cold fusion
Rick Hunter said:
The UFO watching incident is not in question, that is what others have corroborated. I also don't find it implausible that Bob worked at Los Alamos and A51/S4. The real question in my mind is, what exactly did Bob experience at A51/S4? As far as I know, only Dennis Mariani and his goons could answer that and they haven't come forward yet!
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You know he went public first time as "Dennis" and he stated this was an "inside joke" targeting his handler..

So, going by skeptics side, he created an elaborate ufo story and within it, an inside joke.

I agree with you, that what he actually did there, we can't be 100% sure (as we don't have access to the area). We have only his side of the story. But like I said, it's supported by other witnesseses and the evidence I posted above.

Did you watch Corbell's short feature on Lazar yet? It's pretty cool.

BOB LAZAR + WATCH THE FILM NOW

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Bob Lazar as "Dennis"
 
Castle-Yankee54

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Zeke said:
Occam's Edge: in this instance, the wild ufo story is more plausible than the collection of people collaborating the story just because he got fired. Granted there's assumptions on both sides.
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Actually using Occam's Razor the simplest answer is that the Groom Lake Facility is a top secret test and development base, S4 does not exist and that lazar worked somewhere else for 10 days.

I'd also say that him and his buddies starting this story is far more likely.......it might be the only time he didn't lie. I'd like to see this interview.....and see how truthful he is.
 
humanoidlord

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Zeke said:
I'm talking about a pay stub.

Witness accounts - Gene Huff and Lazar's ex-wife witnessed several aspect of Lazar's story, from seeing the actual W2 form or having MIB/security agents show up at their house, etc. The debunkers also have to peg both as collaborators in the plot to make up a ufo story. This is a very elaborate tale with parties to go along with the ufo story that makes their life difficult and garnishes no money.

There's another researcher, who is a military personnel, (I don't have his name atm) he says he tried to investigate the suspicious office of "US Dept of naval intelligence", he went and was told never to come back and ask about it again. Anecdotal evidence? Yes. But again he would also have to be making up a story. It gets more far-fetched to believe everyone of these people are making sh*t up as we move along. I suspect S4 has been closed down and moved somewhere else, after the flock of people came to see what's going on.

If Lazar is a planted dis-info guy, they really did a stupid thing and have to move their operations, buy up more land etc. If Lazar is a hoaxter/story teller, there's a bunch of witnesses who had to go along with the story. What's more far-fetched, the story or the skeptics long list of calling out everyone involved a BSer? I ask. Answer - the skeptics side.

"Around this same time, Bob received his first paycheck for one week’s pay even though the days had never been worked consecutively. The check was for $958.11. Bob showed me the check and I remember commenting that I thought that a senior staff physicist, which was Bob’s position, would have been paid more than that. He proceeded to tell me how underpaid scientists were and I later found out that was true. I think I was the only one, other than Bob, to ever see that check. He had his eye on some electronic equipment so he decided to buy it and not tell Tracy that the check had ever arrived. In later years when people questioned Bob’s W-2, I knew it was actual because, even though I didn’t remember the exact amount, I knew that it was nine hundred and fifty or sixty bucks which showed me that Bob’s W-2 reflected the money actually received. Later, when he left the program, the government still owed him for some time worked, a bill which remains unpaid to this day.

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AboveTopSecret - though mixed with some good info for sure, is heavily bias and shown to be infiltrated or at least heavily influenced by military/Pentagon.
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that paycheck proves nothing, also the navy wants nothing to do with ufos
 
humanoidlord

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Rick Hunter said:
So far, I think it is most likely that some of Bob's story is true, or at least more probable than not. It is not unreasonable to presume that he did work at Los Alamos at some point and could very well have met Edward Teller. His name does appear in a directory for the facility. George Knapp says that he and Bob visited Los Alamos and Bob was quite familiar with the place. Los Alamos is a big place and it seems quite plausible that he could have worked there as a lab technician or research assistant of some type.

He could have spent some time at A51 and/or S4. Perhaps he worked there some as part of his duties at Los Alamos. Thousands of people have worked there over the decades, and there is the DNI W2 form. It has been reported that DNI has had many projects at A51, so this is plausible. The W2 has a very low amount of income on it, so Bob probably did not work there very long. It would be interesting to see Bob's other W2's for that time period and see where this one falls in.

Beyond that, I'm not ready to buy anything from Bob's story. I think it is very likely that he was angry at being fired over the UFO watching incident, and so decided to get them back with a fantastic story that would draw alot of attention to a place that is both highly restricted and does not exist.
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that actually sounds quite plausible! solve all the problems with the skeptics theorys while still saying that the ufo story makes no sense
 
Area201

Area201

cold fusion
Castle-Yankee54 said:
I agree.....like I said working for 10 days also doesn't give him much time to learn something.

He likely didn't even finish his entrance training in that time.
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He had a particle accelerator at his home. He built a jet engine car (documented). This was his "resume" to work at Los Alamos, not school credentials which were lacking.

He later made a car run on water. He now has a science materials business. He's not a scholar but he is a hands-on scientist.
 
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Castle-Yankee54

Castle-Yankee54

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Zeke said:
He had a particle accelerator at his home. He built a jet engine car (documented). This was his "resume" to work at Los Alamos, not school credentials which were lacking.

He later made a car run on water. He now has a science materials business, he's not a scholar but he is a hands-on scientist.
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Like I said earlier he is reasonably intelligent......not sure why you needed to mention that.

The bolded words are cute though......:Whistle:
 
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