Bob Lazar and Area 51

Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

Celestial
humanoidlord said:
that actually sounds quite plausible! solve all the problems with the skeptics theorys while still saying that the ufo story makes no sense
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Huh? Most skeptics I have read say Bob is just a straight up bullshitter. What I am saying is that a lot of his story, but not all of it, does have some documentation and witness testimony behind it, making it plausible. It's the part about what he experienced at A51 that is supported pretty much only on his words.
 
Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

Celestial
Castle-Yankee54 said:
I'm just going by what I've seen in his interviews......I don't think he has the smarts to do any of the BS he said he did.

He could have been a janitor for Naval Intelligence.....and even then for 2 weeks at the most.
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That's essentially what I have been saying, the guy could have actually worked at Los Alamos or even A51 but never encountered any UFO stuff. Those facilities need plenty of support staff and technicians, jobs which Bob could probably do.
 
Castle-Yankee54

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Rick Hunter said:
That's essentially what I have been saying, the guy could have actually worked at Los Alamos or even A51 but never encountered any UFO stuff. Those facilities need plenty of support staff and technicians, jobs which Bob could probably do.
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My family members that went Los Alamos never saw anything similar to UFOs......but then that's assuming they are even at either location. This alleged S4 location is not even confirmed.....it qualifies as hearsay.
 
Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

Celestial
Castle-Yankee54 said:
My family members that went Los Alamos never saw anything similar to UFOs......but then that's assuming they are even at either location. This alleged S4 location is not even confirmed.....it qualifies as hearsay.
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Yes indeed. It is not hard to believe that Bob could have worked at Los Alamos or A51 and there is witness testimony and circumstantial evidence to say that could have happened. It's the leap he makes from "I worked at Los Alamos and A51" to "I worked at Los Alamos and A51 and then worked on recovered alien craft at S4" which is problematic and unsupported by anything other than his words.
 
Castle-Yankee54

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Rick Hunter said:
Yes indeed. It is not hard to believe that Bob could have worked at Los Alamos or A51 and there is witness testimony and circumstantial evidence to say that could have happened. It's the leap he makes from "I worked at Los Alamos and A51" to "I worked at Los Alamos and A51 and then worked on recovered alien craft at S4" which is problematic and unsupported by anything other than his words.
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Much of which is based on a two week pay stub for Naval Intelligence.
 
SOUL-DRIFTER

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
On Bob Lazar I am 95% sure he is fraud, but since the government can lie and cover things up and it is 99% his testimony I must leave that 5% of a possibility he could be genuine.
 
Area201

Area201

cold fusion
Crossover from "another forum"

@humanoidlord said:
element 115 (AKA moscovium) was shown to be unstable upon its discovery
making all of lazar's story impossible​


His 2015 rebuttal of these criticisms is that it would either 1. naturally occur somewhere in the universe and they had acquired it, or 2. synthesized a stable isotope form of the element, only hypothetical at the moment.

Moscovium (I say it's Lazarium dammit)

"The hypothetical isotope 291Mc is an especially interesting case as it has only one neutron more than the heaviest known moscovium isotope, 290Mc. It could plausibly be synthesized as the daughter of 295Ts, which in turn could be made from the reaction 249Bk(48Ca,2n)295Ts.[33]Calculations show that it may have a significant electron capture or positron emission decay mode in addition to alpha decaying and also have a relatively long half-life of several seconds. This would produce 291Fl, 291Nh, and finally 291Cn which is expected to be in the middle of the island of stability and have a half-life of about 1200 years, affording the most likely hope of reaching the middle of the island using current technology. Possible drawbacks are that the cross section of the production reaction of 295Ts is expected to be low and the decay properties of superheavy nuclei this close to the line of beta stability are largely unexplored.[33]"

 
Area201

Area201

cold fusion
One more thing, I got this off ebay.. forget about reverse engineering the real thing, I couldn't even put this freaking plastic model together with glue. I was going to make a hoaxed image being stuck in tree as a joke. But instead I threw it into the trash, what a waste of 1 hour.

ypptgGn.jpg
 
SOUL-DRIFTER

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Zeke said:
One more thing, I got this off ebay.. forget about reverse engineering the real thing, I couldn't even put this freaking plastic model together with glue. I was going to make a hoaxed image being stuck in tree as a joke. But instead I threw it into the trash, what a waste of 1 hour.

ypptgGn.jpg
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I bought one of those also off Ebay, though it was about 12 years ago. Still in the box unopened.
 
humanoidlord

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Zeke said:
Crossover from "another forum"

@humanoidlord said:
element 115 (AKA moscovium) was shown to be unstable upon its discovery
making all of lazar's story impossible​


His 2015 rebuttal of these criticisms is that it would either 1. naturally occur somewhere in the universe and they had acquired it, or 2. synthesized a stable isotope form of the element, only hypothetical at the moment.

Moscovium (I say it's Lazarium dammit)

"The hypothetical isotope 291Mc is an especially interesting case as it has only one neutron more than the heaviest known moscovium isotope, 290Mc. It could plausibly be synthesized as the daughter of 295Ts, which in turn could be made from the reaction 249Bk(48Ca,2n)295Ts.[33]Calculations show that it may have a significant electron capture or positron emission decay mode in addition to alpha decaying and also have a relatively long half-life of several seconds. This would produce 291Fl, 291Nh, and finally 291Cn which is expected to be in the middle of the island of stability and have a half-life of about 1200 years, affording the most likely hope of reaching the middle of the island using current technology. Possible drawbacks are that the cross section of the production reaction of 295Ts is expected to be low and the decay properties of superheavy nuclei this close to the line of beta stability are largely unexplored.[33]"

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i have never heard of this alleged isotope, lets hope science solves the mistery
 
August

August

Metanoia
Zeke said:
One more thing, I got this off ebay.. forget about reverse engineering the real thing, I couldn't even put this freaking plastic model together with glue. I was going to make a hoaxed image being stuck in tree as a joke. But instead I threw it into the trash, what a waste of 1 hour.

ypptgGn.jpg
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Maybe you could have Back Engineered it ?
 
Captain Tinkle

Captain Tinkle

Honorable
There are plenty of ex-workers at Area 51 who are now allowed to speak about what went on there. For realiable stories on Area 51, I suggest you check out Roadrunners International for a jumping off point. There is a lot of old pictures from inside the base and stories.

Bob Lazar I don't know how to take. Some of what he has said I believe, other statements I think are bogus.
 
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